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Shopping for HDTV with many FALD zones...

What HDTVs would I be wanting to look at for the most Full Array Local Dimming zones?

I was looking at the Vizio M series, but it seems to only have 32 zones?

Looking for a 55" or 60", around $800-1350 (or so), neither 4K nor 3D are at all needed. Just looking for a good HDTV with a great picture - with local dimming and a LOT of zones.

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Vizio's are your only option at those prices.
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That's what I was wondering... I just find it strange that the Toshiba 55SV760U that I bought *years* ago had 95ish local dimming zones, and this new Vizio only has 32.
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That's what I was wondering... I just find it strange that the Toshiba 55SV760U that I bought *years* ago had 95ish local dimming zones, and this new Vizio only has 32.

You might also have a look at the Toshiba 55L7400U - it's in your price range but has even fewer dimming zones than the Vizio M.
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You might also have a look at the Toshiba 55L7400U - it's in your price range but has even fewer dimming zones than the Vizio M.
Humorously enough, I noted that.
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What HDTVs would I be wanting to look at for the most Full Array Local Dimming zones?

I was looking at the Vizio M series, but it seems to only have 32 zones?

Looking for a 55" or 60", around $800-1350 (or so), neither 4K nor 3D are at all needed. Just looking for a good HDTV with a great picture - with local dimming and a LOT of zones.

Thanks.
Why not buy a set with a better panel in that price range that does not need a few local dimming zones
to be H A***d competitive with a better panel ? eg: Sony 55 W800B $ 1298.00 At B&H photo (Best buy or Amazon should price match)


s**t for that money Visio wouldn't be on my mind maybe Sony ,Toshiba ,Samsung ,LG,LED or more likely a Sammie Plasma .

If you really want the SRSLY best picture quality under ~ $2500.00 for half of that or less a 60f5300 or 64f5300 Samsung plasma ( if you can still find any ) I have the 60f5300 and A Sony and LG LED also ,Sammy PDP is plenty bright in an average room just not facing direct sunlight, better P.Q. than anything short of a Sony 9XX LCD or Sammie f8500 .
Certainly better than any Visio on the market today, best picture quality in the house here.

SRSLY Sammie PDP will make you throw rocks at a lot of LCD ! So if you want to show your vidiophile around here and have your friends and neighbors with LCD envious of your picture get with a Sammy plasma while you still can dawg


Next best and real decent LED in the price range and vidiophile hierarchy would be the Sony 8x or maybe an LG 55LB7200 or Samsung UN55H7150 . I would look at all of these no problem I have an Sony and LG led also pretty darn good. like fafrd says nothing wrong with a Toshiba 55L7400U it may not run with the others though but it'a value proposition and probably decent .☺


Local dimming (lots of Zones maybe 2-300 or more ) with a real good panel is a whole different and very expensive thing than what Vizio is offering so far besides local led dimming cannot adjust as fast as or precise as the panel at pixel level anyway .

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Question: If I had a $2000 grand budget for the TV, would that change things? What budget would I need to get a great HDTV (no 3d, no 4k) that supported 100+ full array local dimming zones?
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Question: If I had a $2000 grand budget for the TV, would that change things? What budget would I need to get a great HDTV (no 3d, no 4k) that supported 100+ full array local dimming zones?
Why do you need FALD dude? At that price point and your wish list, get a plasma and be done with it.
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Why do you need FALD dude? At that price point and your wish list, get a plasma and be done with it.
Other people in the household are dead set against Plasma - and isn't Plasma a mostly defunct and disappearing technology anyways?
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Question: If I had a $2000 grand budget for the TV, would that change things? What budget would I need to get a great HDTV (no 3d, no 4k) that supported 100+ full array local dimming zones?
FALD with 100+ zones costs $8000 atm so...
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Whoa! My older Toshiba 55sv670u had 95 or so zones and only cost $3000 several years ago!

Wow!
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FALD with 100+ zones costs $8000 atm so...
Your best bet is to try and find a Sony HX929 or HX950. They are 2011 and 2012 models.
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Question: If I had a $2000 grand budget for the TV, would that change things? What budget would I need to get a great HDTV (no 3d, no 4k) that supported 100+ full array local dimming zones?

The 70" Vizio P Series is rumored (by a reviewer) to have 96 local dimming zones (compared to all of the other P Series panels which will have 64) and is priced at $2600.


The 65" Vizio Reference Series (if it actually materializes this year) will have 384 local dimming zones but is likely to cost over $3000.
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Hmmm... so it seems I have two choices, stick with my 1200ish budget and go with a vizio or other budget HDTV or step up to 2600+ and get a prosumer level unit.

Thanks for the advice all, it helps.
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Other people in the household are dead set against Plasma - and isn't Plasma a mostly defunct and disappearing technology anyways?
Like folks say: If you want a FALD for little money buy an older model FALD or go Plasma (while you can) which basically has 2 million zones. The other thing is why do you want a FALD? It only makes sense if you do a lot of dark room viewing. If not then i would look into Edge Lit LED and FALD LED with lesser zones.
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Like folks say: If you want a FALD for little money buy an older model FALD or go Plasma (while you can) which basically has 2 million zones. The other thing is why do you want a FALD? It only makes sense if you do a lot of dark room viewing. If not then i would look into Edge Lit LED and FALD LED with lesser zones.
No I don't think there will be a lot of dark room viewing. So I won't stress about low numbers of zones then.

Thanks again, guys.
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No I don't think there will be a lot of dark room viewing. So I won't stress about low numbers of zones then.

Thanks again, guys.

A FALD TV will not have a lot of impact if you are not watching in the dark. That being said, the Vizio M Series with only 32 local dimming zones is reported to be a very impressive performer for the price and you may want to have a look at it: http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...b3-lcdled-hdtv
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