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Need TV for apparment

So i currently have a Samsung UN46D8000YF and i want to move it to my bedroom, and put something bigger in my (13'x16') Tv goes in a 10Ft wall and im about ~10'-12' away from it... and my budget is about $2k so the real question is... get a big 70" TV (like a Vizio 3d) or get a 55" Samsung 4K...

I have an xbox one and a ps4, so i game and watch netflix on it quite a bit.. my UN46D8000YF is perfect for that, but i want bigger!!!!

While i know xbox and ps4 dont support 4k yet, not sure if their hardware supports it.. i know netflix already stared releasing 4k content... Also im not sure if you can upscale any blueray movie and if it would look any better than 1080p

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im checking those 70" 3d vizio tv any reviews on them?
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im checking those 70" 3d vizio tv any reviews on them?

I would say if you're looking at M702i-B3 vs. a smaller 4K then definitely go with the M702i-B3.

If you're sitting 10+ft back you are going to be much happier with a 70" screen than a 55". I don't think right now is the time to jump into 4K personally. There are a lot of variables with the format that are yet to be pinned down both with hardware and software. I think you have an easy choice here especially with the 70" now having 36 local dimming zones.

I say go with the Vizio and don't look back!!
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Upscaled BD to 4K doesn't look any better. Only true 4k content looks phenomenal, so don't worry about the up scaling. Netflix only has House of cards , Breaking bad and smurfs 2 that I know of and you need a descent internet speed connection.

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whats the difference between that model and this one: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m-...&skuId=9365059
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whats the difference between that model and this one: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m-...&skuId=9365059
701 is last years model, while the 702 is this years model. The biggest difference between them is going to be the fact that the 701 is edge lit, and the 702 is back lit. The 702 should provide much better contrast judging from the other 2014 vizio models that implement the same setup.

702 has 36 different "zones" that can independently brightened or darkened, while edge lit TV's have their LED (usually) arranged as a strip of lights on the sides of the TV frame. You can really see the difference with scrolling white text credits on an all black background. An edge lit model will be lit up on the sides because the light has to travel all the way to the text..... If you have a back lit panel just the areas that have something displayed will be lit, providing better contrast.

That's a really simplified version of what you'll see.
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Also vizio's website is down currently so wait for that to come back up, they may be posting their 4K models. They're supposed to be putting out a 55" 4K for $1,000. So you may be able to have your cake and eat it too soon with a 70" 4K potentially under $2,000.
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Also vizio's website is down currently so wait for that to come back up, they may be posting their 4K models. They're supposed to be putting out a 55" 4K for $1,000. So you may be able to have your cake and eat it too soon with a 70" 4K potentially under $2,000.
How do 4k tv perform with a ps4/xbox one? Look better/worse than regular 1080p?
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i see them on the vizio site, just not price or release date info
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How do 4k tv perform with a ps4/xbox one? Look better/worse than regular 1080p?
You're just going to be relying on Samsung software to upscale a 1080 input from your game console. It's not going to add any detail like getting a full 4k signal.
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but will it be worse?
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701 is last years model, while the 702 is this years model. The biggest difference between them is going to be the fact that the 701 is edge lit, and the 702 is back lit. The 702 should provide much better contrast judging from the other 2014 vizio models that implement the same setup.

702 has 36 different "zones" that can independently brightened or darkened, while edge lit TV's have their LED (usually) arranged as a strip of lights on the sides of the TV frame. You can really see the difference with scrolling white text credits on an all black background. An edge lit model will be lit up on the sides because the light has to travel all the way to the text..... If you have a back lit panel just the areas that have something displayed will be lit, providing better contrast.

That's a really simplified version of what you'll see.
the 702 released already? i cant find them anywhere
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the 702 released already? i cant find them anywhere
I've only seen up to 65" out so far in stores. I would wait a few weeks as the 70" is probably about to arrive.

I think you'll be happiest with it.
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I've only seen up to 65" out so far in stores. I would wait a few weeks as the 70" is probably about to arrive.

I think you'll be happiest with it.
I just came from besbuy and dammm those 4k tvs look good compared with the 1080p around them... But they are so expensive, any idea how much will the 70" 4k vizio cost?
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^^^ just be aware that those 4k tv's won't look nothing like in the stores when you are watching regular content at home. Only true 4k content looks phenomenal.

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but how does 1080p content looks in it? does it look the same as a 1080p tv? or distorted?
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Also vizio's website is down currently so wait for that to come back up, they may be posting their 4K models. They're supposed to be putting out a 55" 4K for $1,000. So you may be able to have your cake and eat it too soon with a 70" 4K potentially under $2,000.
VIZIO P-Series Ultra HD Full-Array LED backlit LCD Smart TVs
(P502ui-B1) $999.99 (MSRP)
(P552ui-B2) $1,399.99 (MSRP)
(P602ui-B3) $1,799.99 (MSRP)
(P652ui-B2) $2,199.99 (MSRP)
(P702ui-B3) $2,599.99 (MSRP)

They 70" will start at $2599 not under $2k
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Also, you kept mentioning 3D in your original posts. The 2014 Vizios do not have 3D.
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Why ? any idea why they arent 3d anymore? 3d on a 70" must be nice

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At those price points, something had to go. Given that the average person's 3D viewing has to be < 10%, they figured that full-array backlighting was a more important feature, as it affects picture quality 100% of the time.
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but how does 1080p content looks in it? does it look the same as a 1080p tv? or distorted?
I would say the same, no it does not look distorted.

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any idea when they will release the new p series i know its on their site but still says coming soon
also the prices i posted earlier are they real prices? will they go any lower

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As far as anyone knows, yes, those are real prices. Expect $100-$200 off at Costco initially, but yeah, basically those prices.
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ill probably wait few more months until we get closer to black friday i hope to see alot better deals then
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