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Unacceptable's Avatar Unacceptable
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Picked this TV up last night at Best Buy (says "New!" on the website and the store didn't even have it on display yet.)

I've got a basement theater so I, honestly, don't care that much about the quality of the TV in my living room. Plus, I'm constrained to 54" of space between two sconces that the lady of the house insists I am not allowed to spackle away, so now I own a curved 55" 4K TV. All good. Looks decent but not any better than the 2011 55" 7-series that got moved to the bedroom.

I've searched for this new model number here (and Google) and I'm coming up empty so perhaps I'm the first to own this? If not, point me to the owner's thread and I'll delete this one.

In the meantime, I'm trying to find some 4K content and found the other threads with torrents to the Samsung demo footage. I've "obtained" it and followed instructions on the other threads and I only see the top left "A" video when playing off a USB in any of the slots... not the whole 4K video with all the sub content. YouTube videos that are supposed to be 4K are definitely not. Hell, I can tell from 14 feet away and two drinks in that I'm looking at compressed/artifacted YouTube trailers pretending to be 1080P.

Anyone have any ideas?

As for the TV, the curved thing is cool but at 55" it seems kind of pointless. My theater screen is a brilliant 120" from a Panasonic AE8000U, so I'm more interested in seeing 4K footage and what I might (hopefully) have in my basement in the next year or so if/when I replace the Panny.
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I'm talking to my coworker right now and he was looking at a similar model at Costco recently. One thing he noticed is that when he was in a sweet spot the picture looked great. When he was a little further back the sides of the picture looked a little warped in comparison to looking at the the rest of the picture. Almost like the center was larger than the sides.

Is this something you have noticed as well? We aren't sure if its an actual issue or if its just him.
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A couple of things.

Visit the HU9000 owners thread on 4K source, I think Mr. Orange has had much success and others getting true 4K which is in it's infancy. Next week at IFA in Berlin Samsung will announce the creation of an On-Demand UHD system to cater to it's UHD owners. Sony will have the advantage with 4K source as they have a Library and it's movie studio to draw from whereas Samsung/LG don't. Samsung upgrade kits in the future may include displayport technology capability (conjecture on my part per Joe Kane rec's and he's worked with Samsung in the past improving their Proj systems) improving better interface for future of UHD.

I would somewhat agree on the curve with a 55" versus the 78" monster is impactful like an in-home IMAX but I also viewed a curved OLED but it's curve was less pronounced but it's PQ details were awesome with old fashioned 1080P.

If you truly wanted a kick ass BEST TV and limited to 55" I'd recommend the LG OLED which won the 2014 Flat Panel Shootout, if you have to go smaller there's nothing like having a panel that'll kick ass with infinite blacks and reference quality contrast ratio that will kick your HT's butt in PQ and in fact so good actually be immersive even at a weenie 55". However shop prices so BB doesn't screw you on MSRP as Cleveland Plasma/AV (forum sponsor) often can price much better than BB. Good Luck!
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I'm talking to my coworker right now and he was looking at a similar model at Costco recently. One thing he noticed is that when he was in a sweet spot the picture looked great. When he was a little further back the sides of the picture looked a little warped in comparison to looking at the the rest of the picture. Almost like the center was larger than the sides.

Is this something you have noticed as well? We aren't sure if its an actual issue or if its just him.
I don't notice any warping of the image at all. First thing I did was pull up Fox News because I knew they'd have a ticker on the bottom of the screen and I wanted to see how the TV would handle it. It's fine, btw.

Only issue for me thus far is that if I sit off angle from center, the image seems to get noticeably darker and I'm only talking about 30 degrees away from being directly in front of the screen.
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Ok cool, but at any distance you sit/stand at, everything looks great then, but if you are at an angle then it gets dark. That sum it up? I might look into one of these myself in the future, but my coworker is looking to buy soon.
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Ok cool, but at any distance you sit/stand at, everything looks great then, but if you are at an angle then it gets dark. That sum it up? I might look into one of these myself in the future, but my coworker is looking to buy soon.
Well now I'm getting somewhere. Been watching SEC Network this afternoon and the picture is incredible for an up scaled image. I was worried about this because regular network tv like Modern Family didn't look all that great last night but it was the syndicated version.

Also got my hands on a Netflix account and finally got to see 4K on the display. Wow. Smurfs 2 looks great. Like really really great. Ghostbusters flickers like crazy and generally looks like a 30 year old movie. Meh.

Obviously there's some obvious compression issues on fast motion with Netflix's low bitrate but the newer 4K stuff still looks great.

The bad news... unless you're about 6 or 7 feet away from the TV, it's not real obvious that you're watching 4K. I sit 14 feet away so I'm not even sure a 65" screen would help, either.

Ultimately, I just needed a replacement TV for the living room so I'm very happy with the quality of this one. If you're on the fence, I'd definitely pull the trigger but be mindful of the distance issue.

Now the wait for affordable 4K projectors just got even more grueling.... 120" 4K is going to be absolutely nuts.
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Just got one today. Had gotten a Sony KDL50W800b Thursday but it just didn't impress me at all. I use this as my desktop, uverse, console do it all screen and sit about 3ft back. The Sony never wowed me doing anything.

This thing, right out of the box not one adjustment yet blows my socks off. Some content on HD channels is definitely nothing special but some that are clearly upscaled look great but what I am loving the most is Windows. 3840x2160 at 60hz on the first boot up! Man this looks good. So much desktop real estate. So many windows!!! I love it!


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Just got one today. Had gotten a Sony KDL50W800b Thursday but it just didn't impress me at all. I use this as my desktop, uverse, console do it all screen and sit about 3ft back. The Sony never wowed me doing anything.

This thing, right out of the box not one adjustment yet blows my socks off. Some content on HD channels is definitely nothing special but some that are clearly upscaled look great but what I am loving the most is Windows. 3840x2160 at 60hz on the first boot up! Man this looks good. So much desktop real estate. So many windows!!! I love it!

How did I totally overlook the idea of using a 4K screen as a monitor? And the curve would be IDEAL for this as well as keeping you close enough to appreciate the resolution. Hmmm...
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It is good, REALLY good as a pc monitor. Its like triple monitor in one.

Played a little Diablo 3 but its still a little more than my 780ti can handle lol. May actually have an excuse to get dual 880's when they come out.

Loving the tv more and more. Almost everything playing on Uverse 1080i HD channels tonight looked INCREDIBLE. Predator was blowing my mind. Damn this thing is sweet.
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It definitely doesn't like non-native res very much. 2560x1440@30hz is nice and clear. 1080p@60hz is a bit of a mess. Really need a good custom monitor driver for this thing.
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Paul's TV just talked my friend into buying a 55" HU7250 over the Samsung H8000 curved 1080p set. He should get it in this week and I'll get a chance to check it out. I hope they were right.
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This and the Vizio P-series are top of my list, but may wait until CES to see what Sony and Sammy have to offer for 2015. In any case post CES we may see the HU7250 fall in line with the P pricing wise.
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wow, SO, got it yesterday. Totally torn here.

1) Sitting directly in front of the set without any real calibration, hands down the best picture I could imagine. Blue Ray looks game like, it's almost like its CGI.

2) Off center- - ouch. Changing the settings to natural helps, but the glare and the tint change drastically. Hoping that i can continue to work on the settings to fix this

3) glare - - lots of windows in my house, and there is some pretty bad reflection when far away from it, not so bad sitting in the sweet spot. Surprised for an LED there is so much glare

4) set up is easy, and it found and paired with my new samsung sound bar no problems. Plenty of ports.

So, not sure which way I am going with this. Football today, will be interesting to see how good or bad it is off center.

Looking for someone who has good settings.
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day two.

Did a lot of tweaking and put the tv into natural mode. This has greatly improved the side viewing

also took off the smooth setting on the LED blur and went with clear instead.

overall the tv is winning me over but i still am cautious on the glare and side viewing.

luckily for sports and prime time stuff, the glare is non existent as the sun is off the windows during those times
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day two.

Did a lot of tweaking and put the tv into natural mode. This has greatly improved the side viewing

also took off the smooth setting on the LED blur and went with clear instead.

overall the tv is winning me over but i still am cautious on the glare and side viewing.

luckily for sports and prime time stuff, the glare is non existent as the sun is off the windows during those times
yes I find natural mode to look the best set smart led to low for dark inky blacks with no detail loss.By doing this setting you will get completly black screens with no light bleed or halo's on images on black background..
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yes I find natural mode to look the best set smart led to low for dark inky blacks with no detail loss.By doing this setting you will get completly black screens with no light bleed or halo's on images on black background..

thanks. Just did that.
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Mmmm,

Whats the deal with the new 7250 model line.. "No" Cinema Black yet the older 7150 has it?? I was checking the 7250 out the other day and i was not impressed by its 1080p picture quality at all.. 4k or not, it seems a step down from the 7150.
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Mmmm,

Whats the deal with the new 7250 model line.. "No" Cinema Black yet the older 7150 has it?? I was checking the 7250 out the other day and i was not impressed by its 1080p picture quality at all.. 4k or not, it seems a step down from the 7150.

day three, keeps getting better and better. Sky Fall on blue ray during the scenes at the casino are outrageous. the pool water and neon are life like.
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day three, keeps getting better and better. Sky Fall on blue ray during the scenes at the casino are outrageous. the pool water and neon are life like.
Ok, good to know.. So no issues from not having cinema black.. The letterbox bars are keeping pure black without it and no light bleed at all.. The 7250 i looked at had some?? Is there some sort of advanced dimming option in the 7250 that had to be turned on??
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Ok, good to know.. So no issues from not having cinema black.. The letterbox bars are keeping pure black without it and no light bleed at all.. The 7250 i looked at had some?? Is there some sort of advanced dimming option in the 7250 that had to be turned on??

there are several advanced viewing options not on my old Samsung


I am seeing very little bleed and the black is as black as I would expect


the tv is quite phenomenal


and the natural mode I believe is superior to the movie mode everyone hypes


and yes, there is an advanced dimming option that detects how much light is in the room, this can be turned off
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Mmmm,

Whats the deal with the new 7250 model line.. "No" Cinema Black yet the older 7150 has it?? I was checking the 7250 out the other day and i was not impressed by its 1080p picture quality at all.. 4k or not, it seems a step down from the 7150.
Since the HU7250 offers the EVO kit option for 2015 Cinema black and some of the higher tier features will be included. Otherwise there would be little incentive getting the HU9000.
I am excited about this display especially after such great user experiences thus far.
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Since the HU7250 offers the EVO kit option for 2015 Cinema black and some of the higher tier features will be included. Otherwise there would be little incentive getting the HU9000.
I am excited about this display especially after such great user experiences thus far.
I thought this would have been the case with the es8000 and the two evolution kits that have come out for it since. However, when samsung released the sek1000 and now sek2000 evolution kit.. Samsung neglected to add cinema black. Unless you have concrete proof that the 7250 with evo kit will add cinema black than i highly doubt it.. I am making the call now it wont have it, but i hope it does for the sake of 7250 owners. I am purley going by how samsung has treated the es8000 by not adding cinema black to either one of their two evo kits for it. If samsung follows suit, you can expect an updated smart hub and updated 4k hdmi compatibility.
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I thought this would have been the case with the es8000 and the two evolution kits that have come out for it since. However, when samsung released the sek1000 and now sek2000 evolution kit.. Samsung neglected to add cinema black. Unless you have concrete proof that the 7250 with evo kit will add cinema black than i highly doubt it.. I am making the call now it wont have it, but i hope it does for the sake of 7250 owners. I am purley going by how samsung has treated the es8000 by not adding cinema black to either one of their two evo kits for it. If samsung follows suit, you can expect an updated smart hub and updated 4k hdmi compatibility.
The F9000 4K display did not support cinema black until the 2014 evo kit added the feature, so fingers crossed.
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The F9000 4K display did not support cinema black until the 2014 evo kit added the feature, so fingers crossed.
Yes, but the F9000 has "Hardware Dimming" that supports Cinema Black.. Cinema Black is not software driven alone, it needs specific hardware inside the TV to work. If the 7250 also has this hardware inside it, then yes, it has a really good shot at getting it.
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...but what I am loving the most is Windows. 3840x2160 at 60hz on the first boot up! Man this looks good. So much desktop real estate. So many windows!!! I love it!
How exactly are you able to get 4K 60Hz? Nvidia driver with 4:2:0 chroma subsampling?
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How exactly are you able to get 4K 60Hz? Nvidia driver with 4:2:0 chroma subsampling?
I already had the latest NV drivers when I first started using it. My first hdmi cable didn't work, lost signal after windows logo but after switching to a redmere hdmi cable it just worked perfectly. I saw the stuff before about the 4:2:0 and can only guess its doing that since my 780ti isn't hdmi 2.0 but I swear I can't tell. Windows looks perfect, movies look perfect, the color is great. It just detected it and worked. Played quite a few games at 4K now. Firefall is absolutely beautiful now, was never very good looking at 1080p. World of Tanks is freaking cinematic. Titan Fall looks good not a huge boost in visual quality but plays shockingly well. ArcheAge is incredible. Get a solid 45-50 fps at very high settings.

Got the Destiny PS4 bundle and been playing it non-stop, looks great, can't notice any input lag issues at all. I almost always sit directly in front of the screen but sometimes I am back and to the left and it always look great to me. Very dark room though.

Was little sad that Football on most uverse 1080i channels weren't that great looking, tolerable. Sometimes the signal would improve little and could not some upscaling making it look much better. Wish they would improve their HD quality.
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I already had the latest NV drivers when I first started using it. My first hdmi cable didn't work, lost signal after windows logo but after switching to a redmere hdmi cable it just worked perfectly. I saw the stuff before about the 4:2:0 and can only guess its doing that since my 780ti isn't hdmi 2.0 but I swear I can't tell. Windows looks perfect, movies look perfect, the color is great. It just detected it and worked. Played quite a few games at 4K now. Firefall is absolutely beautiful now, was never very good looking at 1080p. World of Tanks is freaking cinematic. Titan Fall looks good not a huge boost in visual quality but plays shockingly well. ArcheAge is incredible. Get a solid 45-50 fps at very high settings.
I think it's time I sell my R9 295X2 and get the GTX 780 Ti Kingpin instead. You've convinced me and I've had enough waiting around for AMD to come up with a similar 60Hz driver as well - plus dual gpus have difficulties with MadVR... Sound like Kingpin will serve me well until R9 390X with HDMI2.0 comes out...
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Hey,

has anybody got 4k@60hz (RGB 4:4:4) to work with this tv using gtx 970 or gtx 980 ?

Considering buying this since its alot cheaper than 65HU9000 (like 1,8k USD cheaper where i live ) and i only plan to use it as a desktop screen.

Any info on this would be appreciated.
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Does anyone have any starter settings for calibration that they would like to share? I need to try natural mode but was wondering if anyone had some they felt were giving a good viewing experience so far. Got the set on Saturday and liking it so far.. I just know I won't be comfortable until I have it tuned the way I like it and it's close.. but not quite there yet. Also.. does it upscale the image naturally? Anyway to tell if it is or is not? Anyway to force it? Just confused on that and I probably sound like a dummy asking but I was just curious. Thanks guys for any help!!!
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Yes, but the F9000 has "Hardware Dimming" that supports Cinema Black.. Cinema Black is not software driven alone, it needs specific hardware inside the TV to work. If the 7250 also has this hardware inside it, then yes, it has a really good shot at getting it.

Calibration settings to get a new owner started? Tinkered with it some but still not where I want it to be. Thanks for any help.

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