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75 inch dilemma. Do they all stink?

Hi guys,

So I am looking to upgrade my 9 year old 50 inch Panasonic Plasma that in my opinion still has great picture. However, in my new place (16 feet away from TV), I need a bigger screen.

I don't really need 3D or any extra cool apps, and latest gadgets. I just want great picture and reliable TV.

I looked at the following models and yet there are many that complain of issues on all.

Samsung UN75H6350
Samsung UN75F6400
Samsung UN75F7100

When you read reviews on Amazon, you realize how novice many people are there and how their feedback may not be accurate.

Any suggestions?

thank you.

P.S. I still have many people suggesting that Plasmas "blow away" LED TVs. True???

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I may be biased because I just bought a 75" Samsung, but all of the information I gathered on the 75H7150 has been predominantly positive. The professional reviews for this series rate it as the best 1080P LED LCD currently available.

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Hi guys,

So I am looking to upgrade my 9 year old 50 inch Panasonic Plasma that in my opinion still has great picture. However, in my new place (16 feet away from TV), I need a bigger screen.

I don't really need 3D or any extra cool apps, and latest gadgets. I just want great picture and reliable TV.

I looked at the following models and yet there are many that complain of issues on all.

Samsung UN75H6350
Samsung UN75F6400
Samsung UN75F7100

When you read reviews on Amazon, you realize how novice many people are there and how their feedback may not be accurate.

Any suggestions?

thank you.

P.S. I still have many people suggesting that Plasmas "blow away" LED TVs. True???

You may be looking at the wrong models. This is the one that you want.. Pricey but it's the high end model. You want the best picture from that size, you have to look at high end models. Otherwise a cheaper lesser picture quality set will do.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN75HU.../dp/B00IN2WIZM

As for your last question, yes, Plasmas still have superior picture quality with 1080p content. Unfortunately the only last high end model produced today (last year) is the Samsung F8500. Ever since Panasonic seized plasma production last year. Good luck in your search.

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You may be looking at the wrong models. This is the one that you want.. Pricey but it's the high end model. You want the best picture from that size, you have to look at high end models. Otherwise a cheaper lesser picture quality set will do.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN75HU.../dp/B00IN2WIZM

As for your last question, yes, Plasmas still have superior picture quality with 1080p content. Unfortunately the only last high end model produced today (last year) is the Samsung F8500. Ever since Panasonic seized plasma production last year. Good luck in your search.

I get what you're saying but when sitting 16 feet away, 1080p vs 4K becomes a little less important. Also ... I have no need to get the latest and greatest. I was fine with my 9 year old plasma. I just need bigger size.

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I get what you're saying but when sitting 16 feet away, 1080p vs 4K becomes a little less important. Also ... I have no need to get the latest and greatest. I was fine with my 9 year old plasma. I just need bigger size.
You are right about the distance and 4K. Like I said , any cheaper set will do, being that far I wouldn't worry so much about the picture. Any behemoth set will look descent viewing from 16 feet away.

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Why do all Plasma's STINK in a Bright Room?

Plasma only rules like a Vampire - a slave to the darkness.

Put a Kuro or any plasma in my sunny Florida viewing room and it's worthless!

Plasma died despite the so-called lemmings fan base here - the consumer world made it's decision and Plasma couldn't generate PROFITS for anyone and bankrupted some.

You want the real deal for both then buy an OLED until Quantom Dot may trump it in the future.

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Why do all Plasma's STINK in a Bright Room?

Plasma only rules like a Vampire - a slave to the darkness.

Put a Kuro or any plasma in my sunny Florida viewing room and it's worthless!

Plasma died despite the so-called lemmings fan base here - the consumer world made it's decision and Plasma couldn't generate PROFITS for anyone and bankrupted some.

You want the real deal for both then buy an OLED until Quantom Dot may trump it in the future.
Ouch - mostly false, except for #3 really which is true. The extremely "uninterested in real picture quality" masses did decide. LCDs were shoved down their throats and the stadium lighting in the stores won them over. Thats cool. The have their torched out LCDs above the fireplace running Dora the Explora and strectha-vision sports. Terrific.

Why would you watch TV in the "bright florida sun" when you should be out enjoying the weather? Who actuualy watches TV in a super-bright room? Dumbest concept ever.

OLEDs are in their infancy and still have issues. Way too expensive for the screen sized offered. For most people, a "big" TV now means 65" or larger. Not 50" or less.

KURO's still make most LCDs look awful by comparison

Its all good
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Hi guys,

So I am looking to upgrade my 9 year old 50 inch Panasonic Plasma that in my opinion still has great picture. However, in my new place (16 feet away from TV), I need a bigger screen.

I don't really need 3D or any extra cool apps, and latest gadgets. I just want great picture and reliable TV.

I looked at the following models and yet there are many that complain of issues on all.

Samsung UN75H6350
Samsung UN75F6400
Samsung UN75F7100

...

I'm in a similar situation and I have narrowed my search down to these three, all of which get predominantly positive reviews here and elsewhere on the internets.

Vizio P702ui-B3 (4k, FALD, just released, $2,500)
Samsung UN75F8000 (Renowned 1080p set from 2013, $3,000-$4,000)
Samsung UN75H7150 (Seems to be the best 1080p flat Samsung this year, $3,500)

Protip: don't try to keep up with the Vizio P Series owners' thread or you'll be very busy...
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Why do all Plasma's STINK in a Bright Room?

Plasma only rules like a Vampire - a slave to the darkness.

Put a Kuro or any plasma in my sunny Florida viewing room and it's worthless!

Plasma died despite the so-called lemmings fan base here - the consumer world made it's decision and Plasma couldn't generate PROFITS for anyone and bankrupted some.

You want the real deal for both then buy an OLED until Quantom Dot may trump it in the future.
You obviously havn't tried an 8500 series plasma. It gets very bright.
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I have the high end 75" ES9000 which was basically the first F series and its an awesome panel, it replaced my 60" Kuro and I have zero regrets. Bear in mind they are edge lit, so you may see the quirks associated with edge lit tech. Go for the highest end model you can find if you plan to play with it long term.


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The professional reviews for this series rate it as the best 1080P LED LCD currently available.
What series?
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Hi guys,

So I am looking to upgrade my 9 year old 50 inch Panasonic Plasma that in my opinion still has great picture. However, in my new place (16 feet away from TV), I need a bigger screen.

I don't really need 3D or any extra cool apps, and latest gadgets. I just want great picture and reliable TV.

I looked at the following models and yet there are many that complain of issues on all.

Samsung UN75H6350
Samsung UN75F6400
Samsung UN75F7100

When you read reviews on Amazon, you realize how novice many people are there and how their feedback may not be accurate.

Any suggestions?

thank you.

P.S. I still have many people suggesting that Plasmas "blow away" LED TVs. True???
I would Purchase the Samsung UNF7150 over the UNF7100 and be done with it.. It's a solid large screen TV with a nice bright colorful 1080p picture.
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You obviously havn't tried an 8500 series plasma. It gets very bright.
I had the F8000 and F8500 puts it to shame in a bright room.
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I had the F8000 and F8500 puts it to shame in a bright room.

Everything I've read on the F8500 indicates that it is significantly brighter than any other plasma by a huge margin. When it came out I remember a lot of reviewers wondering how Samsung managed to get plasma that bright, it even put some LCD sets to shame for brightness as I recall.


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Have to second,third and fourth the 75 inch 7150. Did my research, stuck it in the basement media room, and it's a great set.

I'd love to get my hands on a Blu Monster's Ball.-LilStinky

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Let's face the reality that Plasma will be no longer on our choices.
For me for 75-Inch screen you should go with UN75H7150 if you are not into 4K but if you are into 4K then UN75HU8550 is the best choice for you.
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I would Purchase the Samsung UNF7150 over the UNF7100 and be done with it.. It's a solid large screen TV with a nice bright colorful 1080p picture.
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Let's face the reality that Plasma will be no longer on our choices.
For me for 75-Inch screen you should go with UN75H7150 if you are not into 4K but if you are into 4K then UN75HU8550 is the best choice for you.

I don;'t even want to pay for 3D :-) I don't need it.

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I don;'t even want to pay for 3D :-) I don't need it.
Then You have the answer, Samsung UN75H6350
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I bought a UN75F8000 yesterday at Fry's but they had a huge sale on UN75H6350 was a whole $1k cheaper. Should I have gotten the UN75H6350 instead? It looked really good to me in store but they didn't have the F8000 on display so I couldn't compare side by side. I just went with a gut feeling to get the F8000. I have 30 days to return but I don't know how long the sale for the UN75H6350 will be so please give me your opinions!

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I bought a UN75F8000 yesterday at Fry's but they had a huge sale on UN75H6350 was a whole $1k cheaper. Should I have gotten the UN75H6350 instead? It looked really good to me in store but they didn't have the F8000 on display so I couldn't compare side by side. I just went with a gut feeling to get the F8000. I have 30 days to return but I don't know how long the sale for the UN75H6350 will be so please give me your opinions!
In My Opinion, UN75F8000 is better as It's already 240Hz as well as 3D and built-in Camera. It's just using the older Samsung Smart TV platform that upgradeable by Smart Evolution.
But if you just want a 75-inch huge screen with good picture quality then UN75H6350 is enough.
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In My Opinion, UN75F8000 is better as It's already 240Hz as well as 3D and built-in Camera. It's just using the older Samsung Smart TV platform that upgradeable by Smart Evolution.
But if you just want a 75-inch huge screen with good picture quality then UN75H6350 is enough.
Thank you very much for the response. I'm having a little buyer's remorse after visiting Best Buy looking at 4k tvs. I'm still within 30 days so I have to take it trade it for the xbr70x850b (4k sony) for only $100 more on sale right now. I don't see any info on PQ comparison between it and my UN75F8000. Do you have any opinion on that one?
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Why are there so little 75 inch models on the market? Are they hard to make? IMO the bigger the better.
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Not in any kind of room with ambient light, it isn't...

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Why do all Plasma's STINK in a Bright Room?

Plasma only rules like a Vampire - a slave to the darkness.

Put a Kuro or any plasma in my sunny Florida viewing room and it's worthless!

Plasma died despite the so-called lemmings fan base here - the consumer world made it's decision and Plasma couldn't generate PROFITS for anyone and bankrupted some.

You want the real deal for both then buy an OLED until Quantom Dot may trump it in the future.
I don't think anyone is expecting QDF FALD LCD to trump OLED, or to even equal its BL performance, but for it to be just good enough at 1/4 the price to make OLED remain niche. I also have a bright room and I think we may finally get a lesser version of Sharp's MothEye anti-glare filter in the US this year. Hopefully, they will have a few model with their N-Black panel at this years CES.


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Sharp LC-80LE650U

Price dropped by $600 a few days ago and it's the lowest price it's ever been at. So went with an 80inch :-) We'll see. I don't need 3D.

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I don't think anyone is expecting QDF FALD LCD to trump OLED, or to even equal its BL performance, but for it to be just good enough at 1/4 the price to make OLED remain niche. I also have a bright room and I think we may finally get a lesser version of Sharp's MothEye anti-glare filter in the US this year. Hopefully, they will have a few model with their N-Black panel at this years CES.

Why on Earth would you want OLED to remain niche???? Surely we all want it to become mainstream and cheap....????
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Why on Earth would you want OLED to remain niche???? Surely we all want it to become mainstream and cheap....????
Of course I don't want OLED to remain niche, but price/performance is the most important factor. And for most of the general public, it is just price. There have been no new factory announcements by LG or even cross licensing deals for others to use their tech to make OLED. There have been no technologies breakthroughs to believe their yield will ever surpass their current 70-80%. They can not get OLED to the price point they are going to quickly need by themselves. LG's window of opportunity is quickly closing. Even though the M2 factory is supposedly going to start producing, it is going to be a hard road up as LCD continues to improve with Quantum Dot Film and HDR FALD, and once again narrows the performance gap at 1/4 the price.
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Of course I don't want OLED to remain niche, but price/performance is the most important factor. And for most of the general public, it is just price. There have been no new factory announcements by LG or even cross licensing deals for others to use their tech to make OLED. There have been no technologies breakthroughs to believe their yield will ever surpass their current 70-80%. They can not get OLED to the price point they are going to quickly need by themselves. LG's window of opportunity is quickly closing. Even though the M2 factory is supposedly going to start producing, it is going to be a hard road up as LCD continues to improve with Quantum Dot Film and HDR FALD, and once again narrows the performance gap at 1/4 the price.
Agreed, it's a real pity about current oled cost and rollout issues. I misinterpreted your earlier post. Am in the market for a large 4k display myself and there is only the illusion of choice. Would very much like to see large high quality displays. FALD needs to become standard on large displays that are led for a start (at less than $25k). Not sure what qdot will mean for led as weak spot for me is black levels and stability of blacks, colors aren't the problem from what I can tell. Either way I agree that new tech is needed because current crop is lacking when compared to now extinct methods.
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