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#1 · (Edited)
This TV has been showing up in the usual places, does anyone have any comments, advise or reviews about it?

Thanks!

Product Specifications




  • Audio
    • Audio Power Output : 10W + 10W
    • Speaker Configuration : 2ch, Full Range x 2
    • Speaker Position : Down Firing
  • Audio Features
    • Alternate Audio (Digital) : Yes
    • Digital Out Format : Dolby Digital, PCM
    • Auto Mute (on no signal) : Yes
    • Sound Mode : Standard; Music; Cinema; Game; Sports
    • Sound Booster : Yes
    • Stereo System : MTS (AUTO SAP)
    • Audio Out : Fixed / Variable
    • Dolby® : MS10 (Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby Pulse)
    • 5.1 Channel Audio Out : Yes
    • SteadySound® Automatic Volume Control : Yes
  • Convenience Features
    • Picture Adjustments Lock : Yes
    • On/Off Timer : Yes
    • Auto Shut-off : Yes
    • On-Screen Display for External Input : Yes
    • Info Banner : Yes
    • Parental Control : Yes
    • Channel Block (with password) : Analog & Digital
    • BRAVIA® Sync™ : Yes
    • Twin Picture : Extended PIP & PAP
    • USB Play (Contents) : MPEG1 / MPEG2TS / MPEG2PS / MPEG4 Visual / MPEG4AVC / H.264 / WMV / Xvid / MP3 / AAC / HE-AAC / DolbyDigitalAC3 / WMA / Jpeg
    • Scene Select : General; Music; Cinema; Game; Graphics; Sports; Auto
    • Show/Hide Channels : Yes
    • Photo Frame Mode : Yes
    • USB Super Multi-Format Play : Yes
    • Favorites (Simple UI) : Yes
    • Label Inputs : Yes
    • USB Play : Yes (USB viewer supports FAT16, FAT32 and NTFS file systems.)
    • Channel Jump : Yes
    • On-Screen Clock : Yes
    • Edit Channel Labels : Yes
    • Channel Surf : Yes
    • Multiple Language Display : English; Spanish; French
    • Sleep Timer : Yes
    • Input Skip : Yes
  • Design Features
    • Stand Design : Plastic
  • Display
    • Screen Size (measured diagonally) : 60" (60")
    • Refresh Rate : 120Hz
    • Display Resolution : Full HD
    • Viewing Angle (Up/Down) : 88/88 degree
    • Aspect Ratio : 16:9
    • Screen Size (cm) : 152.7 cm
    • Dynamic Contrast Ratio : Over 1 million
    • Viewing Angle (Right/Left) : 88/88 degree
  • Display Features
    • Display Device : LCD
    • Dimming Type : Frame Dimming
  • Energy Saving & Efficiency
    • Power Saving Modes : Yes
    • Energy Star® compliant : Yes, V6
    • Dynamic Backlight Control : Yes
    • Backlight Off Mode : Yes
  • General Features
    • Hotel Mode Menu : Yes
    • Closed Captions (CC) : Analog; Digital
    • Demo Mode : Yes
    • Finish (Surface Color) : Black
    • Start Up Sony Logo Display : Yes
    • Audio Return Channel : Yes
  • Inputs and Outputs
    • Analog Audio Input(s) (Total) : 1 (Rear)
    • Component Video (Y/Pb/Pr) Input(s) : 1 (Rear Hybrid w/ Composite)
    • Audio Out : 1 (Rear)
    • USB 2.0 : 1 (Side)
    • Composite Video Input(s) : 1 (Rear Hybrid w/ Component)
    • AC Power Input : 1 (Rear)
    • HDMI™ Connection(s) (Total) : 3 (2 Rear / 1 Side)
    • Ethernet Connection(s) : 1 (Rear)
    • HDCP : HDCP 1.4
    • MHL : Yes, 2.0
    • RF Connection Input(s) : 1 (Rear)
    • HDMI PC Input Format : 640x480@60Hz; 800x600@60Hz; 1280x768@60Hz-R; 1280x768@60Hz; 1360x768@60Hz; 1024x768@60Hz; 1280x1024@60Hz; 1920x1080@60Hz
    • Digital Audio Output(s) : 1 (Rear)
    • HDMI™ PC Input : Yes
  • Network Features
    • Wi-Fi Standard : b/g/n
    • Wi-Fi Frequency : 2.4GHz
    • TV Tweet : Yes (Opera)
    • DLNA Content : JPG / MP3 / WMA / MPEG1 / MPEG2PS / MPEG2TS / AVCHD / MP4 / WMV
    • Sony Entertainment Network : Yes
    • Wireless LAN : Integrated
    • Opera Apps (System) : Yes
    • Wi-Fi Certified : Yes
    • Internet Browser : Yes (Opera)
  • Power
    • Power Requirements (frequency) : 60Hz for UL cUL 50/60Hz for other
    • Power Requirements (voltage) : AC120V for UL cUL AC110-240V for other
  • Regulation and Standards Compliance
    • VESA® Hole Spacing Compatible : Yes
  • Service and Warranty Information
    • Limited Warranty Term : 12 months
  • TV System
    • TV System (Analog) : M
    • Number of Tuners (Terrestrial/Cable) : 1 (Digital / Analog)
    • Channel Coverage (Analog) : VHF: 2-13 / UHF: 14-69 / CATV: 1-135
    • Channel Coverage (Digital Terrestrial) : VHF: 2-13 / UHF: 14-69
    • TV System (Digital Terrestrial) : ATSC
    • TV System (Digital Cable) : Clear QAM
    • Channel Coverage (Digital Cable) : CATV: 1-135
    • Color System : NTSC
  • Video
    • Video Signal : 1080/24p (HDMI™ only); 1080/60i; 1080/60p (HDMI™ / Component); 480/60i; 480/60p; 720/60p; 1080/30p (HDMI™ only); 720/30p (HDMI™ only); 720/24p (HDMI™ only)
  • Video Features
    • 3D Comb Filter : Yes
    • MPEG Noise Reduction : Yes
    • Blinking Type : Frame Blinking
    • Wide Mode : Full; Normal; Wide Zoom; Zoom; Normal / Full1 / Full2 for PC timing
    • 4:3 Default : Yes
    • Digital Noise Reduction : Yes
    • Picture Mode : Vivid; Standard; Custom; Cinema; Graphics
    • 24p True Cinema™ Technology : Yes
    • Auto Wide : Yes
    • CineMotion® Reverse 3:2 Pulldown Technology : Yes
    • Live Color™ Technology : Yes
    • Advanced Contrast Enhancer (ACE) : Yes
    • Motionflow™ Technology : Motionflow XR 240
    • LED Motion Mode : Yes
    • Clear Resolution Enhancer : Yes
  • Weights and Measurements
    • Packaging (Approx.) : Carton dimensions: 62 5/8 x 34 5/8 x 6 7/8 in (1590 x 878 x 172 mm) Carton weight: 57.3 lbs (26.0 kg)
 
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#5 ·
Could it be related to model KDL-60R520A? First available March 28, 2013
Maybe it's a feature-cut model of the same thing?

I just ordered the TV today. Have you had any problems with it? If there's something obviously wrong I could still cancel the order.

One thing I don't know about is how to calibrate its settings. Can anyone help? I don't know if it's using the same panel as 520A.
 
#4 ·
#10 ·
There's a few reviews on best buy and the sony site and some here as well.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B00O2Z5W6G/ref=mw_dp_cr

So far, if you're not an extreme tech snob such as my brother who won't buy anything less than the best of the best...I feel like it's practically a steal and probably one of best deals you'll see for this Black Friday season. It's name brand and 60 inch for less than $700..I bit and the deal on best buy ends tomorrow it says, But walmart and amazon may last longer.
 
#16 ·
Spoke to Sony Rep at Best Buy, he said the TV is 120Hz. The way the rep explained it to me was something like this SD members explains it.

Quote from wizziwig :
This 60 vs 120 Hz debate needs to end.

If you look at the user manual linked on Sony's web site for this TV, you will see that it offers motion interpolation modes in the menus. You can't interpolate motion on a TV that runs at 60hz because there is no where to put the extra interpolated frames. Every second you get 60 original frames and 60 interpolated frames that need to be displayed by the panel. 60 + 60 = 120.

So any set that offers motion interpolation of any kind, by definition is a 120+ Hz panel. The native 240Hz panels allow even more interpolated frames to be inserted. On this model, they insert 1 interpolated frame and then flash the LED backlight between each of the 120 frames to generate the 240Hz claimed in the specs.

Luckily, the LED backlight flashing has a separate control in the menus, so you could enable it alone if you hate the soap-opera-effect of motion interpolation but can live with a slight flicker.
Even Amazon has change the description from 60hz to 120hz.
 
#21 · (Edited)
I'm thinking i'm gonna pick up on this deal while it lasts today as well. I'd be interested to hear if there's any problems with input lag from PS or Xbox systems.

*Edit
It looks like in a comment on one of the reviews on Amazon, someone noted that it may not be mountable.. I have a hard time believing that any TV over 40" isn't setup to be mountable in some way.

**ReEdit
After looking around some more it looks like it can be mounted. Per a Sony Rep. "This model can be mounted on the wall and wall-mount hole pattern is 400mm x300mm."
 
#26 ·
I purchased this TV earlier today from BB for $648. The picture/color is very nice. The only issue so far is the slight blur you get when people/things move quickly. I have messed with the motion flow settings and a few other things but (even though it's slight) it's still noticeable. I read somewhere else (can't remember where) that certain aspects will "break in" and get better after awhile. Definitely not bad for under $700. I am still looking around for other settings or anything else that can help.
 
#27 ·
Here are the settings that I am currently using... The wife has approved these but I am still tweaking.

Picture Mode - Standard
Backlight - Max
Picture - Max
Brightness - 48
Color - 52
Hue - 0
Sharpness - 20
Color Temperature - Neutral
Noise Reduction - Medium
MPEG Noise Reduction - Medium
Motionflow - Off
CineMotion - Off

Adv Contrast Enhancer - Low
Black Corrector - Low
Gamma - 0
Clear White - Off
Live Color - Low
LED Motion Mode - Off

Scene Select - Sports
 
#28 ·
Here are the settings that I am currently using... The wife has approved these but I am still tweaking.

Picture Mode - Standard
Backlight - Max
Picture - Max
Brightness - 48
Color - 52
Hue - 0
Sharpness - 20
Color Temperature - Neutral
Noise Reduction - Medium
MPEG Noise Reduction - Medium
Motionflow - Off
CineMotion - Off

Adv Contrast Enhancer - Low
Black Corrector - Low
Gamma - 0
Clear White - Off
Live Color - Low
LED Motion Mode - Off

Scene Select - Sports





Thanks, I will try those settings.


Also, here is a half-decent review I found for the TV. It mentions the blur and gives decent spec info.


I tried to post the link but it will not let me until I post 5 times.
 
#34 · (Edited)
Nevermind what I said earlier about the link... It does have more info than some other spec-filling sites.

Regarding the TV itself. I think this is a TV with Chinese components, if not a Chinese mainboard. The reason is that when you do a network scan, its NIC manufacturer name shows up as "Hon Hai Precision Ind.Co.Ltd"... If you scan a PS3 its NIC would show "Sony Computer Entertainment Inc." I don't own other Sony internet-enabled sets so I'm not entirely sure. I've read on another message board that a Sony rep present at one of the big retailers admitted that this particular model is one Sony made just for the Black Friday season. Looking at the manual this seem to fit. The manual only has one model number. If it's an "actual" series with a model range then the manual would list several models. So far this cheapie is a one-off, done with as cheap components as possible.

As for the picture I think it's a bit of a disaster with all processing turned off. I can easily tell because I use a computer with my TV set. The text looks horrible with no processing. With my old Toshiba Regza (an actual nice set) that doesn't happen... Text still looks nice with all processing turned off. The panel is simply low qual.

My wife gets dizzy looking at the set if the processing is turned on while a movie is going. She's a bit sensitive to these things (can't watch me play any kind of videogames) and I'd have to turn all processing off. Again, she doesn't get ill watching movies with the Toshiba with or without processing.

I kind of want to return the thing, but the flimsy styrofoam packaging of the thing (another way they saved money on this) just totally FELL APART when I took the TV out of the box... I don't even know if the store would take the TV back when the styrofoam is messed up like that.
 
#30 ·
Does ANYONE who has received their tv have any idea how well it handles video games??? Input lag? Or at least if it's good for video games. I bought it partially for that reason and I'm hearing mixed reviews on it playing video games, but I don't trust the random reviews I'd like to hear it from somebody here. So please, anybody?
 
#31 ·
Thank you everyone. Found this forum while doing Google search for the best picture settings for this tv. I just got this tv on Sat. I actually exchanged a Vizio 55" for it that I bought 2 weeks ago. Honestly the Vizio had a better picture as did the 42" rear projection Wega that I've had since 2006 prior. The above settings really helped as I followed them exactly. But what is the verdict here on the refresh rate? Is it 65 or 120? I got excited when I saw the 240 motion technology on the box.
 
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