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***** Official 2015 LG 65UF8500 / 65UF9500 Owner's Thread *****

Hello guys and gals,

Now that BestBuy has begun stocking these in-store, I think it's time to start an official owner's thread for everyone to share their experiences with these new 2015 models.

I purchased the 65UF8500 last night at my local BB for $2,499.

Here is some info from the LG website:

4K PICTURE QUALITY

4K Picture Quality

Prepare yourself for the ultimate evolution in real entertainment. 4 times the resolution of Full HD enhances everything you watch with precise detail. Enjoy the true value of 4K resolution on LG ULTRA HD TV.

4K Resolution
ULTRA HD resolution is four times that of Full HD for brilliant clarity and deep details that amaze, even when viewed up close.

IPS 4K Panel
One of the secrets behind LG TVs outstanding high-definition performance is the specially designed display panel. IPS 4K delivers true colors from any angle with 4 times the resolution of Full HD. With IPS 4K, make any seat the best in the house.

4K Upscaler
You can now enjoy 4K in more ways than ever. The 4K Upscaler enhances the details of broadcasts, movies and sports to near 4K quality, giving you picture perfection in new and exciting ways.

4K 60P HEVC
HEVC supports 4K video with 60 frames per second delivering clear and blur-free motions. Now you can enjoy 4K quality content via Internet streaming or USB without requiring support from any extra device.

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WEBOS 2.0

webOS 2.0

LG webOS TV is designed to be obviously simple, so that it is easier to learn and more fun to use. Now, all you have to do is relax as webOS 2.0 makes the TV experience simpler than before.

Simple Switching
Switch back and forth between content and programs, apps and shows with the perfectly simple interface. Accessible at any time, the Launcher and Live Menu make it fast and easy to switch over from content to another.

Simple Discovery
Find and enjoy what you want to watch instantly at one place. Live TV broadcasts, VoD services, and apps – they’re all incredibly easy to find. You can also receive recommendations that introduce you to even more great content on LG webOS TV.

Simple Connection
LG webOS TV was designed to assist you in every aspect of your viewing experience even from the initial setup to connecting external devices. Now simply get connected to your new Smart TV!

Magic Remote
Take control of your entertainment with a new level of remote control convenience. Controlling your TV is now as easy as using a computer mouse. Now, spend less time searching and more time enjoying.

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IMMERSIVE 3D

Immersive 3D
Experience a new dimension in immersive content with 4K 3D lifelike detail that will surprise your eyes.

4K 3D+
The world’s most comfortable 3D is also the sharpest 3D in 4K resolution. With its quadrupled resolution, the 3D images are more splendid than ever and the realism more lively than ever.

Flicker-free 4K 3D
Enjoy 3D movies on a large screen at home, just like at the movies. The larger the screen, the important that your 3D is flicker-free. Even the large screen of LG ULTRA HD TV provides flicker-free, comfortable images that make the 3D entertainment more enjoyable.

4K 3D Upscaler
Even 3D movies of low resolution can be upgraded to be played on LG ULTRA HD TV. By automatically upscaling 3D movies close to 4K quality, it lets you enjoy 3D on a whole new level.

Bright 4K 3D
LG ULTRA HD TV delivers bright and beautiful pictures, even in 3D. The reality from 4K 3D gets more alive.

Comfortable 3D Glasses
Enjoy 3D wearing the most comfortable 3D glasses. LG's 3D glasses are light, battery-free, hassle-free and economical, allowing for greater viewing comfort and convenience.

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SOUND

Sound
What good is stellar picture without impressive sound to accompany it? Fortunately, LG has included some of its most advanced audio technologies to assure a completely captivating audio/video experience.

Sound Designed by harman/kardon
The all-new onboard sound system designed by the audio mavens of harman/kardon provide rich, cinematic sound in your living room.

ULTRA Surround
Let yourself be transported by LG's newest and most advanced solution for simulated multi-channel surround sound from the speakers built into your television.

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http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-65UF8500-uhd-4k-led-tv

http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-65UF9500-uhd-4k-led-tv

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MSRP

65UF8500 - $2,999.99
65UF9500 - $4,499.99


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Is this a commercial ? I was looking for reviews now that HHGreg has them for $2499 + free sound bar + $250 store credit and was looking to replace my 9 year old 73" dlp Mitsu 1080i that has a collapsed light tunnel. Will sitting closer with the smaller 65" screen work. We now sit 12' from screen, thanks
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Is this a commercial ? I was looking for reviews now that HHGreg has them for $2499 + free sound bar + $250 store credit and was looking to replace my 9 year old 73" dlp Mitsu 1080i that has a collapsed light tunnel. Will sitting closer with the smaller 65" screen work. We now sit 12' from screen, thanks

I'm a non paid spokesperson hahahahahahaha

But seriously. Yes. Sitting closer will help a ton. I'm currently at 8' and the TV seems as big as the Vizio P702ui-B3 (70") looked when we were sitting 9.5' from it.


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What better UB9800 screen or 65UF9500
2D ?

3D ?

from web LG did not understand anything

I did not find articles on 65UF9500

lg promised QD where ?
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OK thanks, the tv room is 14x15 so i would have to visually cut the room in half
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http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-65UF9500-uhd-4k-led-tv

in the web Register :
" 65UF9500 is an LED backlit LCD that uses LG's ColorPrime with Nano Spectrum "
what is Nano Spectrum
this is QD lighting zones

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...for-2015/21614

color is REC 709 or DCI

do not understand what sells LG?
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LG has shelved the UF9400 Quantum Dot sets, saying that their Color Prime 9500 delivers similar performance (a la Sony) without the licensing fees and potential over saturation. Bummer I suppose but Sony's post Quantum sets are still pretty great so...
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We just got ours in as well, looking good..........brief description.......


65UF8500 NEW LG
---65" 4K UHD 240Hz ELED Quad Core WiFi 3D webOS2.0 Quantum Dot Cinema

65UF9400 NEW LG
---65" 4K UHD 240Hz ELED Quad Core WiFi 3D webOS2.0 Quantum Dot Metallic

65UF9500 NEW LG
---65" 4K UHD 240Hz ELED Deca Core Art Slim 3D WiFi webOS2.0 Color Prime
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LG has shelved the UF9400 Quantum Dot sets.
What does this mean?
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It means they aren't bringing them to market unless Quantum Dot sets from Samsung push the technology forward in people's mind enough to warrant producing them.
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We just got ours in as well, looking good..........brief description.......



65UF9400 NEW LG
---65" 4K UHD 240Hz ELED Quad Core WiFi 3D webOS2.0 Quantum Dot Metallic

65UF9500 NEW LG
---65" 4K UHD 240Hz ELED Deca Core Art Slim 3D WiFi webOS2.0 Color Prime

do not get anything from LG
9500 not QD
if 9400 are QD how 9500 led


too bad that this is not representative of the LG to answer questions
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I'm a non paid spokesperson hahahahahahaha

But seriously. Yes. Sitting closer will help a ton. I'm currently at 8' and the TV seems as big as the Vizio P702ui-B3 (70") looked when we were sitting 9.5' from it.
Did you return the P Series for the UF8500?
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LG has shelved the UF9400 Quantum Dot sets, saying that their Color Prime 9500 delivers similar performance (a la Sony) without the licensing fees and potential over saturation. Bummer I suppose but Sony's post Quantum sets are still pretty great so...
I am trying to figure out if the UF9500 is worth $1k more than the same size UF8500. What exactly is Color Prime if it is not QD?


And does either of these benefit "regular" cable and Netflix, or is it only a benefit later with UHD Blu-ray?
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I was not ready for the back of this TV being WHITE!
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65UF8500 NEW LG
---65" 4K UHD 240Hz ELED Quad Core WiFi 3D webOS2.0 Quantum Dot Cinema

65UF9400 NEW LG
---65" 4K UHD 240Hz ELED Quad Core WiFi 3D webOS2.0 Quantum Dot Metallic

65UF9500 NEW LG
---65" 4K UHD 240Hz ELED Deca Core Art Slim 3D WiFi webOS2.0 Color Prime

Hmm. Cleveland Plasma is stating that the UF8500 does have Quantum Dots.


Also, are these 10 bit panels? A customer review else where stated that they were.
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Did you return the P Series for the UF8500?

No, I still have the P70 with me since it still have 2 months left in the 90-day return window at Samsclub. I will test the LG and keep one of these.

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Hmm. Cleveland Plasma is stating that the UF8500 does have Quantum Dots.


Also, are these 10 bit panels? A customer review else where stated that they were.

Huh? Nowhere on the box does it say the 8500 has QD. I will double check but I don't recall it saying it neither at the website. If it did, LG would make sure everyone knew it.


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I've had my LG 65UF8500 for 3 days now.

I'm really impressed with the ease of use and up scaling. Can't wait to hear more impressions from other members here.
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I've had my LG 65UF8500 for 3 days now.

I'm really impressed with the ease of use and up scaling. Can't wait to hear more impressions from other members here.
How's the off axis and for fast motion like sports? My Samsung 7100 is not cutting it for off axis, but other than that it's a great set.
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65UF8500 NEW LG
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65UF9500 NEW LG
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there is no QD in 8500
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-65UF8500-uhd-4k-led-tv

do not understand where do you get the data
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How's the off axis and for fast motion like sports? My Samsung 7100 is not cutting it for off axis, but other than that it's a great set.
To be honest I wouldn't be able to answer that. I'm not very knowledgeable when it come to TVs, most of the time I've used monitors for everything. I do have to say I'm impressed with the response time when it comes to "GAME MODE". Hopefully we get some numbers soon but its certainly playable.
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Sorry for the double post but I would also like to add that I'm currently using it as a 1080p monitor for my computer and it's running great. I set it to "Game Mode" and have no mouse lag or any problems.
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How's the off axis and for fast motion like sports? My Samsung 7100 is not cutting it for off axis, but other than that it's a great set.

Off axis is very very good. Most IPS panels are and this one is no exception. Fast motion, so far so good. Haven't watched much due to me learning how to calibrate with a meter, so most of the time spent so far has been looking at patterns LOL


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UF9500 screen attaches review

http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...ed-tv-review-2

BAD

120 Hz native refresh rate.
is whether the UF9500 is worth the high price tag—and unfortunately, it isn't.
Testing revealed that the 65UF9500's contrast performance is well below average.
disappointed by this TV's black level performance.
issue with its backlight uniformity.
lacks the shadow depth for a home theater.
If you're looking for a TV primarily for gaming, you should probably avoid 4K TVs that don't have a fast HDMI input.


While many modern LED TVs have good-enough black levels to work in both bright and dark rooms, the UF9500 does not.

but the poor contrast makes dark-room viewing a no-no.
home theater enthusiasts and cinephiles should absolutely avoid this TV.



GOOD


The remote works great
UF9500 sounds great thanks to a special partnership with harmon/kardon.
Jumping from app to app is quick and easy.
you'll be glad to know that LG's full CMS works perfectly.
The TV's enhanced color ability (called ColorPrime) means it can easily match the standards for HDTV color. If you want an extra vivid,
Whether or not you're watching Full HD (1080p) or Ultra HD (4K) content, the UF9500 looks very good.
Testing also revealed very clean, color-free grayscale elements (black, gray, and white shades),
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***** Official 2015 LG 65UF8500 / 65UF9500 Owner's Thread *****

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UF9500 screen attaches review

http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...ed-tv-review-2

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120 Hz native refresh rate.
is whether the UF9500 is worth the high price tag—and unfortunately, it isn't.
Testing revealed that the 65UF9500's contrast performance is well below average.
disappointed by this TV's black level performance.
issue with its backlight uniformity.
lacks the shadow depth for a home theater.
If you're looking for a TV primarily for gaming, you should probably avoid 4K TVs that don't have a fast HDMI input.


While many modern LED TVs have good-enough black levels to work in both bright and dark rooms, the UF9500 does not.

but the poor contrast makes dark-room viewing a no-no.
home theater enthusiasts and cinephiles should absolutely avoid this TV.



GOOD


The remote works great
UF9500 sounds great thanks to a special partnership with harmon/kardon.
Jumping from app to app is quick and easy.
you'll be glad to know that LG's full CMS works perfectly.
The TV's enhanced color ability (called ColorPrime) means it can easily match the standards for HDTV color. If you want an extra vivid,
Whether or not you're watching Full HD (1080p) or Ultra HD (4K) content, the UF9500 looks very good.
Testing also revealed very clean, color-free grayscale elements (black, gray, and white shades),

Unfortunately, I can also confirm this on the 65HF8500: HORRIBLE CONTRAST and black levels, even after nailing down the grayscale with an i1DP3.

I calibrated one of the ISF modes to 30ftL where I ended up with backlight at 33, brightness at 48, contrast at 99, a greyscale with an average of 1.06dE (haven't touched color yet but it's well within parameters) and the contrast ratio according to ColorHFCR is less than 900:1. BTW, 1.06dE is because 100% IRE is at 2.1dE. 5% through 95% are all 2.0dE or less!!! The CMS in this TV is amazing! It's very accurate and calibrators will love the 20-pt settings for fine tuning.

In comparison, the P70 once calibrated averages well above 3000:1. I know I am comparing 2 TVs with different techniques (FALD vs edge-lit software local dimming) but that is what I have at home right now and the IQ between the two IN PITCH BLACK or EXTREMELY DARK environments, the LG doesn't even come close to the P70.

On the other hand, add some light to the room and the LG's looks amazing. Just don't plan on turning all lights off and going into batcave/home theater mode because the LG will look terrible.

The WebOS though... What a treat!!! Unfortunately, I think the LG is going back to BestBuy. I really wanted to like it and I almost did... until the lights went off....




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Unfortunately, I can also confirm this on the 65HF8500: HORRIBLE CONTRAST and black levels, even after nailing down the grayscale with an i1DP3.

I calibrated one of the ISF modes to 30ftL where I ended up with backlight at 33, brightness at 48, contrast at 99, a greyscale with an average of 1.06dE (haven't touched color yet but it's well within parameters) and the contrast ratio according to ColorHFCR is less than 900:1.

In comparison, the P70 once calibrated averages well above 3000:1. I know I am comparing 2 TVs with different techniques (FALD vs edge-lit software dimming) but that is what I have at home right now and the IQ between the two IN PITCH BLACK or EXTREMELY DARK environments, the LG doesn't even come close to the P70.

On the other hand, add some light to the room and the LG's looks amazing.

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It should be no surprise that the LG has low contrast, it's an IPS panel. Great viewing angles and poor contrast. The P70 is a VA panel. Better contrast and poor viewing angles. For a direct comparison, try comparing the LG to a P55. That's a fair comparison. That linked review looks like it was written by an amateur. No panel tech discussion at all. He seemed surprised that it had poor black performance.
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Just purchased one today from HHGregg. Did my taxes and discovered I could afford it. I got the free soundbar and and applied for the $250 in store rebate. It will be delivered in two days. I considered ordering it from an online seller and saving the sales tax, but with the included sound bar and the rebate I just jumped in. I am replacing a SXRD projection Sony that has faithfully served us since 2007. The family room it will be in is never really dark so I don't think the contrast issue will be a big one. Impressions will follow.
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Just purchased one today from HHGregg. Did my taxes and discovered I could afford it. I got the free soundbar and and applied for the $250 in store rebate. It will be delivered in two days. I considered ordering it from an online seller and saving the sales tax, but with the included sound bar and the rebate I just jumped in. I am replacing a SXRD projection Sony that has faithfully served us since 2007. The family room it will be in is never really dark so I don't think the contrast issue will be a big one. Impressions will follow.

If the room will be well lighted, then you will definitely love the TV. Enjoy!


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I am curious to know what your overall thoughts are on these 2 TV's? I had narrowed my list down to these two with Costco dropping their price on the P70. I am leaning toward the LG because my living space is very large and the TV will have a lot of light and therefore the IPS panel does better but I am afraid I'll be disappointed in the blacks coming from a plasma only household!
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Set came yesterday,about 6PM. HHGREG delivery guys (three of them) set it up, connected it, tested it, and we're gone. My first impression was that the picture was disappointingly fuzzy. The problem disappeared and I believe the 3D setting must have been on. The picture is quite sharp now. I was watching NCAA basketball and fiddled with the picture modes. I liked standard the best. Vivid is just too glaring. I tried the 2D to 3D conversion and as expected found it gimmicky and not worth the trouble. I did find some 3D stuff in the LG store that was great to watch. I also set the lights in my Great Room to relatively dim and to me the picture remained very good. So far so good.
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how I know what screen better with 3D OR 2D TO 3D
UB9800 OR uf9500
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