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Any good 4k ips tvs

Just wanted to know if anyone would know of any good ips panels that display 4k? I tried va panel but with my seating area it does not work.
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Whats your price budget? I believe sony will have 2 very good ips panel 4k tvs coming out in like a month. 850c and 900c. Id take either of those over an LG ips 4k tv.
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Whats your price budget? I believe sony will have 2 very good ips panel 4k tvs coming out in like a month. 850c and 900c. Id take either of those over an LG ips 4k tv.
I'm looking between $3000.00/$3500.00 I got the 65x850b but I'm thinking of returning it and waiting to see what the new line up will look like. Does the new ones have the quad processor and the x1?

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I'm looking between $3000.00/$3500.00 I got the 65x850b but I'm thinking of returning it and waiting to see what the new line up will look like. Does the new ones have the quad processor and the x1?
The new sony will be much better. Motionflow 240 has been upgraded to Motionflow 960. Should be right in your pricerange too! Throw in x1 and yea itll much better.
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Also what's better edge light or the full array lighting?
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Also what's better edge light or the full array lighting?
Full array but they cost double
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Ok sounds good, i have to bring the 850b back I just spotted a dead pixel on the top of the screen. Looks like no more 4k for me for the next couple months. And this panel lotto sucks!
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Ok sounds good, i have to bring the 850b back I just spotted a dead pixel on the top of the screen. Looks like no more 4k for me for the next couple months. And this panel lotto sucks!
I alsp had the x850b the uniformity was god aweful took mine back too!
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Ok sounds good, i have to bring the 850b back I just spotted a dead pixel on the top of the screen. Looks like no more 4k for me for the next couple months. And this panel lotto sucks!
I alsp had the x850b the uniformity was god aweful took mine back too!
I guess I'm not the only one then, what did you end up with for a TV?
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I guess I'm not the only one then, what did you end up with for a TV?
I went to the Samsung 8550 and then up to the Samsung 9000. Both VA panels.
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Just wanted to know if anyone would know of any good ips panels that display 4k? I tried va panel but with my seating area it does not work.
Panasonic AX900 is probably the best IPS TV ever made, but possibly some uniformity issues reported and may not fit your budget.

Review of the AX900 recently posted here on AVS: Panasonic TC-65AX900 LCD TV Official AVS Forum Review
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Just wanted to know if anyone would know of any good ips panels that display 4k? I tried va panel but with my seating area it does not work.
Panasonic AX900 is probably the best IPS TV ever made, but possibly some uniformity issues reported and may not fit your budget.

Review of the AX900 recently posted here on AVS: Panasonic TC-65AX900 LCD TV Official AVS Forum Review
Sounds like a good TV, but I think it's well over my budget. The joys of shopping for a new TV, I'm just glad I have this forum for the help.
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What about the Vizio m series coming out it say it has full led backlighting the M70-C3.

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and what makes you think the sonys are ips? lol
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and what makes you think the sonys are ips? lol
I don't that's what I'm trying to figure out, isn't the 65x850b ips?
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I don't that's what I'm trying to figure out, isn't the 65x850b ips?
some say it is. but the viewing angles are to narrow for it to be
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some say it is. but the viewing angles are to narrow for it to be
That's not true. The viewing angles completely hold their color from even the most severe angle. Its obvious even at best buy the 850b is the only tv on the wall to keep its colors even down 15 to 20 feet off the side. U sure your not thinking of a different tv?
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What about the Vizio m series coming out it say it has full led backlighting the M70-C3.
Look at the title of the thread,

All 70" Vizio's (as well as 65" and 60") are VA-LCDs...
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Yea I thought the 850b is ips, it holds the colors with no problems at the angles from what they are viewed from in my living room.
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What about the Vizio m series coming out it say it has full led backlighting the M70-C3.
Look at the title of the thread,

All 70" Vizio's (as well as 65" and 60") are VA-LCDs...
Well if that's what they are then that's a no for me, and they sounded like a good set. Unless the viewing angles are not as bad as samsumgs.
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I saw the new LG 65UF9500 in stores and wow. It blew me away. If you ask anyone around here, I'm obsessed with good black levels, but the color and overall image on the uf9500 was jaw dropping. Completely blew away the JS9500 next to it in terms of overall picture "pop". Almost no loss of saturation from extreme angles and it was extremely sharp. Of course, I would not watch it in a dim viewing environment as IPS panels don't do well in that situation.
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I saw the new LG 65UF9500 in stores and wow. It blew me away. If you ask anyone around here, I'm obsessed with good black levels, but the color and overall image on the uf9500 was jaw dropping. Completely blew away the JS9500 next to it in terms of overall picture "pop". Almost no loss of saturation from extreme angles and it was extremely sharp. Of course, I would not watch it in a dim viewing environment as IPS panels don't do well in that situation.

Well that lg has caught my interest, thank you for that recommendation. I don't think anyone local to me has one on display, once they do I will be in there to take a look at it.
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Returned the Sony today, talked to the sales person and he says the new Sony's should be there on the 17th of next month. While I was talking to him I was looking at the Sony x950b and wow it's looks good but out of my price range, so the waiting and hunting game begins for me. He was trying to get me to try the xr800a or the Sammy hu8550 but I will pass on that offer. If anyone has any suggestion please feel free to let me know thanks

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If Sony is IPS, you can find out if 3D is passive.

I am in similar situation as you - trying to choose "best" IPS TV. LG UF9500 is too expensive, so I go for UB9500 (high range) or wait for Panasonic CX750 (mid-range).
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The new X850C is most likely using VA panels this time around. They are active 3D, which is pretty much a definite indicator of a VA panel, plus the 65X850C I saw in a preview did not look like an IPS panel to me. The new X900C is using passive 3D which *may* point to an IPS display -- that, or a custom VA panel with FPR layer like Sony commissioned for the original X900A.

To be sure, the X850B is most definitely an IPS TV (in 49/55/65"), along with the X800B (55/65"), W950B (55/65"), and 79" X900B. Just take a magnifying loupe to any of these panels and you'll see the ">>>" pixel alignment. The only 2015 Sony that I am almost sure will be IPS is the X830C, which only comes in small sizes, 43" and 49".


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I saw the new LG 65UF9500 in stores and wow. It blew me away. If you ask anyone around here, I'm obsessed with good black levels, but the color and overall image on the uf9500 was jaw dropping. Completely blew away the JS9500 next to it in terms of overall picture "pop". Almost no loss of saturation from extreme angles and it was extremely sharp. Of course, I would not watch it in a dim viewing environment as IPS panels don't do well in that situation.
I'll second this...like I've posted in the 2015 Sony thread, I saw the 65UF9500 side by side with a new 65X930C and Samsung 65JS9000, and while IMO the X930C looked better than either of them, I was incredibly impressed with the color saturation and pop of the LG UF9500. In all but one or two scenes, the color reproduction was on-par with the Sony X930 and both were leagues better than the Samsung. Obviously the black levels were poor compared to the Samsung and Sony, but otherwise it had a very compelling image.

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If Sony is IPS, you can find out if 3D is passive.

I am in similar situation as you - trying to choose "best" IPS TV. LG UF9500 is too expensive, so I go for UB9500 (high range) or wait for Panasonic CX750 (mid-range).
I seen lg uf9500 TV at bb the colors are good, but the black levels is not good at least for me I watch a lot of movies at night. The Panasonic looks and sounds really really good on paper lol, so far the ones that I'm waiting to check out are the new Vizio m series, the Panasonic line, and the Sony. After having the 65x850b for a week I got used to the size, and after having to bring it back and return to use my 55inch it sucks lol my tv looks so small. I guess I have to wait longer to find something better. I really don't want to give up some of my viewing angles but if I have to in order to get a better picture in dark scenes I guess I'm going to have to switch to a va panel.

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Viewing angles are important to me. That being said, a good calibration (done with a light meter) and the proper use of a bias light, can mitigate the loss of "blackness" some. I have an older LG with the S-IPS panel and two Samsungs with the S-PVA panel. The Samsungs look great viewing dead-on but 1 foot either way and it just washes out terribly. I will give up the loss of a little black for superior off-axis viewing any day.
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Viewing angles are important to me. That being said, a good calibration (done with a light meter) and the proper use of a bias light, can mitigate the loss of "blackness" some. I have an older LG with the S-IPS panel and two Samsungs with the S-PVA panel. The Samsungs look great viewing dead-on but 1 foot either way and it just washes out terribly. I will give up the loss of a little black for superior off-axis viewing any day.

I completely agree with your statement, it's just a little frustrating buying tvs and then packing them up and returning them. The Vizio m series seems to have a better off viewing angle them Samsung, even if it's a few degrees it makes a difference. The Vizio I have now has good black levels no bleed no clouding and off viewing angles are spot on.
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