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Trying to decide on 4K TV

I am moving to Maryland in 1 week and will be purchasing a new TV for my apartment. After seeing a few TV's in the local stores, I think I want to get a 4K TV (unless there are some serious objections).

I really want a 65" and want to stay under the $2000 mark. With that, I think I have narrowed it down to the following choices at B&H.

Visio P652UI-B2
Samsung UN65HU7250FXZA

They are both 4K, but I have not seen that Samsung at the store. I believe it is the 2014 curved model but know little about it. The Visio is $200 less and from what I have seen (pretty nice picture) and read it is a pretty good value 4K TV.

Does anyone have a recommendation between these two; or for that matter something else that fits my size and budget requirements?

Thanks in advance,

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I have only owned Samsung's but I'm pretty sure everyone here will say Samsung down the line I would go that route just had better experience with them. I hate how the vizio ui and remote works plex is free on Samsung, just better app support overall all. I would only get the vizio if it was like 500 or more less than the Samsung.
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I am moving to Maryland in 1 week and will be purchasing a new TV for my apartment. After seeing a few TV's in the local stores, I think I want to get a 4K TV (unless there are some serious objections).

I really want a 65" and want to stay under the $2000 mark. With that, I think I have narrowed it down to the following choices at B&H.

Visio P652UI-B2
Samsung UN65HU7250FXZA

They are both 4K, but I have not seen that Samsung at the store. I believe it is the 2014 curved model but know little about it. The Visio is $200 less and from what I have seen (pretty nice picture) and read it is a pretty good value 4K TV.

Does anyone have a recommendation between these two; or for that matter something else that fits my size and budget requirements?

Thanks in advance,

Ray
What is your current tv? If u want a "good" 65inch 4k tv, it will cost more than 2grand unfortunately. The ju7250 has very poor motion handling. Try to go with a 2015 model, the upscaling will be alot better. The samaung 2015 ju7100 is 2799, but is very rock solid all around with a pretty decent Picture for cable tv, better than 2014 models.
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What is your current tv? If u want a "good" 65inch 4k tv, it will cost more than 2grand unfortunately. The ju7250 has very poor motion handling. Try to go with a 2015 model, the upscaling will be alot better. The samaung 2015 ju7100 is 2799, but is very rock solid all around with a pretty decent Picture for cable tv, better than 2014 models.
My current TV is a 65" 2011 Visio. It is a "smart tv" which I do not use as I have an AlienWare computer hooked up to it for streaming 1080p (Netflix, Vudu, Xfinity, etc...). It also has 3D which I have used 1 time and did not care for.

To be honest the $2000 was the absolute top end that I have to spend at the moment so I cannot go higher. As I did not want to ship the TV from California to Maryland, I sold it to a good friend for $500. So right this second I have no TV at all.
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My current TV is a 65" 2011 Visio. It is a "smart tv" which I do not use as I have an AlienWare computer hooked up to it for streaming 1080p (Netflix, Vudu, Xfinity, etc...). It also has 3D which I have used 1 time and did not care for.

To be honest the $2000 was the absolute top end that I have to spend at the moment so I cannot go higher. As I did not want to ship the TV from California to Maryland, I sold it to a good friend for $500. So right this second I have no TV at all.
Well. If I had 2 choose between the 2 tvs you listed, I'd go vizio p series.

BUT. The samsung 7250 is going to be elidgle for the same one connect upgrade box that the top 2014 model (hu9000) will receive. This could really transform the tv Into a very good tv. It will be completely compatible with everything 4k related. It MIGHT even become hdr compatible as well. (The new silicon image chip will be in that box and a summer firmware update will give it the ability to decode hdr, so there's debate on if it will give the tv a pseudo like HDR). The box comes out in a few weeks so we'll know more then!!
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I was shopping for a 55" rather than a 65".. But, I've put a 2014 Samsung UN55HU6840 and the new 2015 LG 55UF7600 side by side next to a Vizio P502ui-B1 and after properly calibrating them all, I like the picture I can get out of the Vizio the best by a pretty wide margin. The FALD seems to go a long way for contrast, and I prefer the way the Vizio upscales lower resolution content much more than the others.

Even though the Vizio was 5" smaller than what I was looking for, the picture looked so much better to me that I sacrificed the inches and went with the Vizio anyway (the 55" P series uses an IPS panel instead which doesn't look as good in my opinion. The 65" you're looking at uses the same panel as the 50" though so you should be good).

It was also worth noting that the Vizio did much better in dark lighting conditions than the others, while at the same time has the ability to become extremely bright if you crank up the backlight, so it performs well in a bright environment too.

I will say that for whatever reason, video games (PS4) seemed to look just a bit clearer on the LG. The LG's "smart" features really were the best I've ever seen in a TV as well, and this tempted me quite a bit. In the end, the Vizio just looked considerably better on all other fronts.

The final straw was that the Vizio was $250 cheaper than the Samsung and about $500 less than the LG.

All said, I'm quite satisfied with my decision.
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the vizio p would certainly be better than a 60hz tv with weak processing. i would choose the vizio in that scenerio as well.
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Thank you all for your opinions. I will be ordering in a day or so so it will be delivered right about the time I get there. I also really like the P series picture quality in the store and I am leaning in that direction at the moment.

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the vizio p would certainly be better than a 60hz tv with weak processing. i would choose the vizio in that scenerio as well.
It was't really the refresh rate that killed it for me with the Sammy (although true 120 would obviously be better), it was the low light performance and black levels vs. the Vizio. They're both (were) in the same price range. I also slightly prefered the upscaling of the Vizio although it was close, unlike the LG which wasn't even close to as good IMHO.
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I am moving to Maryland in 1 week and will be purchasing a new TV for my apartment. After seeing a few TV's in the local stores, I think I want to get a 4K TV (unless there are some serious objections).

I really want a 65" and want to stay under the $2000 mark. With that, I think I have narrowed it down to the following choices at B&H.

Visio P652UI-B2
Samsung UN65HU7250FXZA

They are both 4K, but I have not seen that Samsung at the store. I believe it is the 2014 curved model but know little about it. The Visio is $200 less and from what I have seen (pretty nice picture) and read it is a pretty good value 4K TV.

Does anyone have a recommendation between these two; or for that matter something else that fits my size and budget requirements?

Thanks in advance,

Ray
I have had bad reliability with Visio's. Last one died after a year. I won't ever be buying another Visio. If you go that route, I would suggest a square trade extended warranty.
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4k is the best
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I bought my 70" Vizio 4k on Amazon for $2000, and got a $100 back for using Amazon. Prime, free shipping. Good TV, but the back light did burn out after about 45 days and they send you a "refurbished" one as a replacement. Had the replacement within a week.
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I am moving to Maryland in 1 week and will be purchasing a new TV for my apartment. After seeing a few TV's in the local stores, I think I want to get a 4K TV (unless there are some serious objections).

I really want a 65" and want to stay under the $2000 mark. With that, I think I have narrowed it down to the following choices at B&H.

Visio P652UI-B2
Samsung UN65HU7250FXZA

They are both 4K, but I have not seen that Samsung at the store. I believe it is the 2014 curved model but know little about it. The Visio is $200 less and from what I have seen (pretty nice picture) and read it is a pretty good value 4K TV.

Does anyone have a recommendation between these two; or for that matter something else that fits my size and budget requirements?

Thanks in advance,

Ray
Wait next year.

Wait for the new models that will support new HDMI 2.2 standards such as

> 4K resolution @ 60 fps
> support for native HDR

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Wait next year.

Wait for the new models that will support new HDMI 2.2 standards such as

> 4K resolution @ 60 fps
> support for native HDR
What is HDMI 2.2? I know of HDMI 2.0 10.2 GBPS and the new 2.0 A 18 GBPS, so what is 2.2? Am I missing something?
HDCP is at 2.2 but that is copy protection.

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would recommend sticking with 1080 p. There's so little 4k content at this point and like someone else said, give them time to get the technology to a better level. Up scaled content is just that. Processed and not as nice as HD on an HD tv.
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I don't see any reason to buy a 65" 1080p today. Unless you upgrade every couple of years. Content is available and 4K bluray is coming later this year. The upscaler in the Sony is top notch. My 1080p Blurays look better than ever. Manufacturers put their best picture tech in their 4K sets as well.

Here is my vote:

Sony 65" XBR800B or for another $200 step up to the 850B.

Kills the Vizio and the Sammy.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-65-...&skuId=2004035

I would strongly suggest buying locally as its a lot easier to return a set if you have problems. An employee of mine (and I'm not exaggerating) just had to return 4 sets in a row that she bought online, all Samsungs. Problems ranged from DOA, green line through screen, cracked screen, etc. 65" and larger you have to use freight services to ship so it's a big hassle. I used to dispise best buy, but now that they price match Amazon I use them a lot more frequenently.
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I don't see any reason to buy a 65" 1080p today. Unless you upgrade every couple of years. Content is available and 4K bluray is coming later this year. The upscaler in the Sony is top notch. My 1080p Blurays look better than ever. Manufacturers put their best picture tech in their 4K sets as well.

Here is my vote:

Sony 65" XBR800B or for another $200 step up to the 850B.


Kills the Vizio and the Sammy.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-65-...&skuId=2004035

I would strongly suggest buying locally as its a lot easier to return a set if you have problems. An employee of mine (and I'm not exaggerating) just had to return 4 sets in a row that she bought online, all Samsungs. Problems ranged from DOA, green line through screen, cracked screen, etc. 65" and larger you have to use freight services to ship so it's a big hassle. I used to dispise best buy, but now that they price match Amazon I use them a lot more frequenently.
This is a good thread, as I am also asking the same questions as the OP. The only wrinkle is that I am an early format adopter and will likely buy into Ultra HD Blu-ray when it is released, so I would like to purchase a TV that has the ability to take full advantage of the new format's image quality enhancements such as HDR, color, etc.

Regarding the two Sony models you mentioned, are those 2014 models or 2015? And, also, what does the 850B offer with respect to picture quality or features above the 800B?

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I have had bad reliability with Visio's. Last one died after a year. I won't ever be buying another Visio. If you go that route, I would suggest a square trade extended warranty.
No matter what you buy - - get the extended warranty coverage. Square Trade from Costco is available and an even better deal if you buy your TV from Costco. I believe they cover an extra two years warranty (total three) at no additional cost.

I purchased a five year extended warranty through Costco a couple years back. It's worth it for piece of mind and knowing that if you are unlucky enough to have a major repair - - it's covered.

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I have had bad reliability with Visio's. Last one died after a year. I won't ever be buying another Visio. If you go that route, I would suggest a square trade extended warranty.
I had the same experience with sony. most product now days dies after warranty is over.

The extended warranty is really no brainer, $59 bucks for 5yrs costco warranty. If only I had purchase that with sony. Would have saved me $$$$$$
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I had the same experience with sony. most product now days dies after warranty is over.

The extended warranty is really no brainer, $59 bucks for 5yrs costco warranty. If only I had purchase that with sony. Would have saved me $$$$$$
My credit card already automatically doubles manufacturers one year warranty into two years, up to $10000. Many cards do, look into it.

850B adds 3D over 800B. Not sure what else if anything.

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I would buy the 2015 65” Vizio M65 over the 2014 65” P65. The new M65 has a much better local dimming implementation and its motion interpolation control is much better.

At $1699 for a 65” local dimming 4K TV, that is a steal.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m-...&skuId=3858039
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I bought the Vizio P70 4k at Costco a few weeks ago for $2000. Warranty to 5 years was $90. I was there today and they still have them in stock at the same price. I have been impressed so far. The 4k is fantastic. It does a nice job of up scaling everything automatically. Picture is wonderful as is the black level. Just my experience but I like my Vizio 4k.

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My credit card already automatically doubles manufacturers one year warranty into two years, up to $10000. Many cards do, look into it.

850B adds 3D over 800B. Not sure what else if anything.
Thanks! Don't care anything about 3D, so unless there is some other major difference, I guess I'd go for the 800B. Only thing is, it's getting a bit late to be buying a 2014 model, considering the new HDMI implementation standards that may be included in 2015 models.

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I am moving to Maryland in 1 week and will be purchasing a new TV for my apartment. After seeing a few TV's in the local stores, I think I want to get a 4K TV (unless there are some serious objections).

I really want a 65" and want to stay under the $2000 mark. With that, I think I have narrowed it down to the following choices at B&H.

Visio P652UI-B2
Samsung UN65HU7250FXZA

They are both 4K, but I have not seen that Samsung at the store. I believe it is the 2014 curved model but know little about it. The Visio is $200 less and from what I have seen (pretty nice picture) and read it is a pretty good value 4K TV.

Does anyone have a recommendation between these two; or for that matter something else that fits my size and budget requirements?

Thanks in advance,

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OP, just curious what TV you ended up with, and why did you select it?

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Thanks! Don't care anything about 3D, so unless there is some other major difference, I guess I'd go for the 800B. Only thing is, it's getting a bit late to be buying a 2014 model, considering the new HDMI implementation standards that may be included in 2015 models.

850b adds triluminous display over the 800b. i wouldnt buy a sony that doesnt have triluminous. thats like buying a corvette with a V6 lol

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