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Upscaled 1080p Bluray on a 4k TV?

hey guys, I'm planning to get a 4k TV in the next few weeks (samsung JS9500)

I have a quick question, when you feed a 1080p bluray to a 4k tv and the 4k tv does the upscaling to 4k as it always does, does the picture look any better than if you were watching the movie on a 1080p tv? in other words, when a tv as the high end as the samsung JS9500 upscales a 1080p bluray movie to 4K, does the movie look any better in 4k or it looks the same as if i was watching it in 1080p on my old 1080p samsung HDTV?
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You will get a lot of opinions on this one. It has been debated many times.

Mine is, yes, it should look better on a high quality 4K tv. It will not, however, look as good as native 4K content.
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You will get a lot of opinions on this one. It has been debated many times.

Mine is, yes, it should look better on a high quality 4K tv. It will not, however, look as good as native 4K content.
I see, Which device outputs best quality 4k these days?
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I see, Which device outputs best quality 4k these days?
The output of the 4K Panasonic GH4 M4/3s camera is fairly outstanding. There has been a lot of small budget stuff shot with it but no major motion pictures yet that I am aware of. The youtube 4K transfers of the GH4 footage are really good when played on a good 4K TV.

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Also if you watch remastered in 4K bluray movies it looks amazing, I told my local bestbuy to pop in amazing spiderman that was remastered in 4K and they were blown away.

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Also if you watch remastered in 4K bluray movies it looks amazing, I told my local bestbuy to pop in amazing spiderman that was remastered in 4K and they were blown away.
Hold on a second. I must have been living under a rock or something. I had no idea there were remastered 4k blu-rays available. Holy **** batman! Nice. I guess its a good time to buy a 4k tv now.

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Hold on a second. I must have been living under a rock or something. I had no idea there were remastered 4k blu-rays available. Holy **** batman! Nice. I guess its a good time to buy a 4k tv now.

Going to pick up the M50 at Best Buy tomorrow.
This really means nothing. Those Blu-rays are still just 1080p they are said to be sourced from a 4K transfer though. It really is just a marketing ploy. Wait for true UHD Blu-ray which we will start seeing later this year and into next year.
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They are supposed to be slightly better than the 1080 mastered versions though. I couldn't really say for sure. I do have the ghostbusters 1&2 set that was mastered in 4k. The first one looked okay, but #2 did look rather well on my 4k tv. Though couldn't compare it to an older 1080p master

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They are but you can get them for $10 to $14 sometimes less at bestbuy and Walmart. It does not hurt at those prices.

I watched side by side comparison of reg bluray and the remastered both on 4k and the remastered was way better the email was remarkable for a transfer.

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They have an Avatar blu ray demo'd on the local Best Buy Samsung HU9000. Honestly even getting right next to the screen I could not tell it was any better than 1080P. I had to confirm with the sales associate that they were using blu ray and not a regular DVD.
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Hold on a second. I must have been living under a rock or something. I had no idea there were remastered 4k blu-rays available. Holy **** batman! Nice. I guess its a good time to buy a 4k tv now.

Going to pick up the M50 at Best Buy tomorrow.
there are only a few of these "mastered in 4k" blu rays. i own a few of them. they might be a little bit better. but most of them are older movies besides the the amazing spiderman 2.

and its worth noting just so you know, these "mastered in 4k" blu rays are a sony production. these blu rays when played on a sony 4k tv will "sync" up and will look insanely good on the sony 4ks. i had the sony 4k and i was incredibly impressed, i then switched to samsung due to uniformity issues with the sony, and hte same "mastered in 4k" movies didnt look nowhere near as good as the sony and it was explained to me by more experienced members of the "sync" between the sony 4k tvs and these special disks.

i do have the ghostbusters part 1 mastered in 4k, and its incredibly grainy. if you want the BEST blu ray picture, you cant beat the sony processing.

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They have an Avatar blu ray demo'd on the local Best Buy Samsung HU9000. Honestly even getting right next to the screen I could not tell it was any better than 1080P. I had to confirm with the sales associate that they were using blu ray and not a regular DVD.

ummmm. blu ray IS 1080P. im not sure what you mean. regular dvd is 480.

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hey guys, I'm planning to get a 4k TV in the next few weeks (samsung JS9500)

I have a quick question, when you feed a 1080p bluray to a 4k tv and the 4k tv does the upscaling to 4k as it always does, does the picture look any better than if you were watching the movie on a 1080p tv? in other words, when a tv as the high end as the samsung JS9500 upscales a 1080p bluray movie to 4K, does the movie look any better in 4k or it looks the same as if i was watching it in 1080p on my old 1080p samsung HDTV?
i have had 1 1080P tv(samsung F7100) and 3 4k tvs in the past year. and in my case, all 3 4k tvs produced MUCH better pictures with 1080P. is it the 4k effect? or is it simply because of better technology in the processing with the 4k tvs? im not positive. but i can tell you that myself, and other 4k tv owners would not go back to 1080P tvs.

as for your main question. blu rays on the JS9500 will probably look better than any tv youve ever seen simply because its most advanced tv out there right now. feedback has been extremely good on the js9500. theres even a couple of former sharp ELITE owners that have said (today actually in the js9500 thread) that the js9500 outperforms the elite despite having less black levels. it has better colors and better processing.

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ummmm. blu ray IS 1080P. im not sure what you mean. regular dvd is 480.
I should have been more clear. It didn't even look like it was 1080P. It looked a lot more like it was just upscaled 480P. Hence why I asked the the sales associate.
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I should have been more clear. It didn't even look like it was 1080P. It looked a lot more like it was just upscaled 480P. Hence why I asked the the sales associate.

was it being split to multiple tvs? sometimes that can kill the picture. i have watched avatar on my hu9000 and it looks amazing, especially compared to my previous 1080P samsung F7100

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