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How long before 1080P is abandoned?

How many more years do you think it will take until manufacturer's start abandoning 1080P sets entirely?

I know Sony still makes a few of them, LG, etc. I say 2016 will be the final year for brand new 1080p sets. What do you guys think?
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How many more years do you think it will take until manufacturer's start abandoning 1080P sets entirely?

I know Sony still makes a few of them, LG, etc. I say 2016 will be the final year for brand new 1080p sets. What do you guys think?
Hmmm..... Difficult to say, because you're not including screen size as one of your variables.

For instance, 720p was still kicking around as an option for 32" and below until recently, even from Sony.

Also, there's a difference between "vast majority of LG's offerings being 4K", and "all of LG's offerings being 4K".
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No way 2016 is the limit. 2026 maybe...

1080p will be around a long time.
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Vizio has some 2015 720P TV sets. Just look at the crappy D model TV sets.. 720P NEEDS to go away...
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1080ps will be sold for awhile till there is finally $300-$400 50" 4k tvs at best buy and walmart. But I bet we will see a big surge on 4k tvs in 2016 when UHD blurays come out

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No way 2016 is the limit. 2026 maybe...

1080p will be around a long time.
That's a scary, scary number!
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That's a scary, scary number!
It would be if 1080p were painful to watch, but it's not for many screen sizes. I'm a big proponent of 4K, but 2K is hardly the blight of humanity...
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4K TVs are now the best and most expensive LCd's that one can buy, and according C|NET also the midrange 4K LCd's are the best in their segment. 1080p will probably be a low-end alternative for many years to come.

4K goes mainstream, 1080p goes bargain
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How many more years do you think it will take until manufacturer's start abandoning 1080P sets entirely?
About the same amount of time that they stop making non-3D displays. Remember all the hype about 3D?
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About the same amount of time that they stop making non-3D displays. Remember all the hype about 3D?
^^^into the abyss.

3D is loved by a great many of us. It's a requirement by many of us as well.

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About the same amount of time that they stop making non-3D displays. Remember all the hype about 3D?
think about how long it took for broadcast to adapt to 1080i. some still haven't. 2026 sounds good to me.
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think about how long it took for broadcast to adapt to 1080i. some still haven't. 2026 sounds good to me.
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For smaller TV's ... several years would be my guess.
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Just think how some people still buy DVDs worldwide. I would have thought bluray disks would have made them go away. Now we'll have uhd bluray also in the mix. When will DVD die?? Probably when physical media dies.
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Unless you are using the TV as a monitor, anything below 50" will negate any benefit for having 4K. So I see no reason why 1080P will be going anywhere. I suppose it's possible at some point that making HD TV's will cost the same as making them UHD from a mass production standpoint. Only then will they disappear. I say 2022.
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It took DVD 8 years to kill VHS.
It took Bluray 4 years to kill DVD.

I've been running a 4K computer screen for 7 months now and I LOVE IT!

CD's, those have been around for 25-35 years now, how they survive is beyond me.

There are many youtube vids permanently-stuck in 240P mode; when everyone is running Google Fiber and 2K+ screens that will look really-really silly (just sayin').
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CD's, those have been around for 25-35 years now, how they survive is beyond me.
Probably the same reason why some still buy vinyl. Or some purchase 24bit discs.


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There are many youtube vids permanently-stuck in 240P mode; when everyone is running Google Fiber and 2K+ screens that will look really-really silly (just sayin').
They look really silly right now.
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^^^into the abyss.

3D is loved by a great many of us. It's a requirement by many of us as well.
True, but I remember reading an article that manufacturers felt 3D wasn't worth it because we weren't buying tons of 3D movies. Now I don't know how many of you feel but I don't buy any movies (why, when you can rent them) because I'm not one to watch a movie more than twice with exception of course and in a few years the movie you buy today will look like crap on that 16k Tv.
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[QUOTE=BassThatHz;34840401]It took DVD 8 years to kill VHS.
It took Bluray 4 years to kill DVD.

Bluray outsells DVD???
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My 50"1080p Sony here looks real good at the PC /office desk from the adjacent bookcase turned in this direction .
OTOH I can see *an interesting case for 4K *this close * having seen *new *ones recently OTOH 50" 4K @ 7-8 ft back in the room ?????you tell me ! what about a fitty inch 4K ?

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1080p will be a low end standard for at least another 3 or 4 years.
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It's a requirement by many of us as well.
Why? Is 4K going to ruin your day? LOL

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1080p will be a low end standard for at least another 3 or 4 years.

At least the new *emerging 3rd world(including USA plenty of new underclass ) premium sets ????

U think 1080p fitty inch is going to be the new 1080p 40oz ,..I mean 1080p 40inch ? ☻☺

2.5 is the new third world ☻

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It took DVD 8 years to kill VHS.
It took Bluray 4 years to kill DVD.

I've been running a 4K computer screen for 7 months now and I LOVE IT!

CD's, those have been around for 25-35 years now, how they survive is beyond me.

There are many youtube vids permanently-stuck in 240P mode; when everyone is running Google Fiber and 2K+ screens that will look really-really silly (just sayin').
Seems to me DVD's are still being manufactured/marketed/sold ... at least it looks that way on Amazon.
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How many more years do you think it will take until manufacturer's start abandoning 1080P sets entirely?

I know Sony still makes a few of them, LG, etc. I say 2016 will be the final year for brand new 1080p sets. What do you guys think?
probably in 5 years EXCEPT for entry level sets - which will distort are blu-rays
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I don't see 1080p going away anytime soon. I think the bigger question here is will 4K become a long term standard? History is littered with these "latests & greatest" falling by the wayside.
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I don't see 1080p going away anytime soon. I think the bigger question here is will 4K become a long term standard? History is littered with these "latests & greatest" falling by the wayside.
Agreed, eventually it will catch on but I don't think it will be that quick. 1080p is more than enough resolution, especially for our current seating distances. In fact, 1440p is the perfect acquity resolution for the average person with their seating distances. Most people have TV's so small that they're actually seeing less than 720p. If I could buy a 1440p TV, I would be golden.

But for me, video gaming is more important to me than TV is. You can read up on dozens of forums of people who use flight simulators and they pretty much use 1440p at a 32 degree angle, they have insane trigonometry calculations to be at the correct location and monitor size to simulate real life as close as possible. I just can't see video gaming moving to 4k anytime soon, it's simply overkill really.



Also, the people mentioning the whole movement of how DVD killed CD, Blu Ray killed DVD. Not even the same thing. In reality, blu ray is actually losing money because people still use DVD's to watch movies, people then watch high def content on streamed services.


It actually doesn't matter because all of the above is just storage media, there's nothing new with the technology. Hell in the future, we might even go back to magnetic tape as it can hold insanes amount of data, like 180 terrabytes.


The world is moving to streamed video, 4k takes twice as much bandwidth for minimal improvement.

I have an OLED TV with perfect black level and I've actually had people ask me if that was a 4k TV when they came over, because it was so clear.

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Hopefully Charter cable will provide 1080 p boxes to my market before they stop producing 1080 p televisions.

Yeah, that's right, I still can't get 1080 p from Charter in 2015. Pitiful. They keep telling me the boxes required aren't available in my market yet Birmingham, AL.

Every time I call them and ask about it they give the same stock answer- we ARE providing high definition programming. Yeah,1080i and 720 p. Big deal............

Charter will probably provide 4k around 2050 so no rush to get a 4k set.
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I don't see 1080p going away anytime soon. I think the bigger question here is will 4K become a long term standard? History is littered with these "latests & greatest" falling by the wayside.
Imagine a world without statistics.
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Imagine a world without statistics.
It'd be 72.5% more enjoyable.

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