This teaser video is nice. I really might take my business up with Sony. I have been needing a new tv and nothing against Samsung, but I just feel jilted that all their top of the line features are reserved for the curved models. Its nice this is flat. I'm really anxious to find out how many zones this thing has. Probably be out of my price range to begin with.. but something worth waiting on I think.
This teaser video is nice. I really might take my business up with Sony. I have been needing a new tv and nothing against Samsung, but I just feel jilted that all their top of the line features are reserved for the curved models. Its nice this is flat. I'm really anxious to find out how many zones this thing has. Probably be out of my price range to begin with.. but something worth waiting on I think.
I've been waiting for this year's flagship full array Sony as last year's speakers ruined it for me and it was only available in 75 inch and while the new speakerless design with thin bezels is great, they're still gonna only offer this in 75 inch! i am looking for 65 and would do 70 but 75 is too big and more importantly, too expensive. I really don't understand why they think it's a good idea to only offer it in 75. I'm so disappointed!
i can see it both ways... yes having more sizes would be awesome id love a 65 over a 75 do to room limitations however if they only work on 1 flagship model they can perfect it. Lets wait till the end of the work and see if more models magically pop up
I agree. With as much as I dislike the speakers on the 940C, if I can get one for ~$5k, I'm probably going to pull the trigger. The 940C is close enough to the new Premium UHD spec that I believe I'll be happy with the TV for a long time.
Right ......looks like Gizmodo got it wrong (again ) about 4000 NIT back-lights being in the 2016 Sony production sets so far and not just the CES prototype set .
Amazing how all these web site bloggers don't research things. I had to come here to get the real scoop about that 4000 NIT back light business in fact you pointed me in the right direction .
I left a comment there at Gizmodo below the article and mentioned AVS & Carlos E since he seems to be well informed on Sony products . I did the same thing in an AVForum reply in the X850C thread where a poster thought the new 2016 Sony's were going to be 4000 NIT.
All those bloggers should check here at AVS first you guys seem to get it all sorted out rather quickly
So far I can't really say anything about the 940D because I haven't seen it in person and I also don't know the price Sony will set on it. But from what I have heard about the 940d today, I feel I'm still leaning toward the 940c. Part of the reason is that I love the speakers design on the 940c. Of course, no TV is future proof, but I feel the 940c is good enough for use in the near future to meet all the requirements for HDR. Also, even if the 940d is priced at the MSRP of the 940c at its initial release, it would probably take another year for the price of the 940d to drop to the current price of 940c. I don't feel it is worth to wait another year considering the current technological difference between the 940d/940c. Given the current cost/performance consideration, I feel that the 940c is the better buy. But of course, this is just my opinion.
The new grid array slim drive high FALD zone count back-light sure sounds interesting maybe they and or the panel makers came up with something workable here for thin back lighting and good blacks and contrast ......Sometimes Sony amazes me over the years and they say more FALD Zones than any TV made that's interesting and 4,000 NIT! .
I get the color volume thing now that makes sense when you consider sunlight day is ~11,000 NITS !
My edge lit XBR- 55X850C looks pretty darn good against the Samsung Plasma here often better sometimes and that's (really ) saying something for an LCD at that price .
Don't forget how long Sony ruled the roost with Trinitron CRT's they came out of nowhere even though it was an American invention we couldn't or wouldn't make work that they finally got working well and nobody else could could touch them for decades .
I had three of them a 1994 black 27" Trinitron and 2 FD HD XBR Wega Trinitrons .
I'm going too see them when they come out just like every year .,
EDIT :
I'll bet ( if the blacks,color volume and contrast are as good as they say & the panels are OK ) they might be on to something big for LCD's you never know with Sony and it wont be the first big time breakthrough for them either .
EDIT :X940D ,X930D or maybe in something else up to4,000 NIT slim drive led panel extended dynamic range brightness *maybe lower minimum black levels and more contrast . 4000 NITS highlights in the dark ......Yikes!
Maybe thinner sets but not X900C thin with integrated cable management combined with the TV stand and some audio enhancements .
I heard about the 4000 NIT max brightness straight from Sony CES opening speech Live Steam video today !
One thing that concerns me somewhat about this new Sony tech "Slim Backlight Drive" is the fact that the backlight LED array is obviously located even closer to the LCD panel than current models and i have been reading some recent comments that because of such proximity the likehood of noticeable onscreen uniformity issues increases, specifically that "backlight grid shadow pattern" seen on bright areas of an image.
I still do not understand this near obsession for LCD sets to become ever thinner that some people and manufacturers feel as wanted or necessary, not when you are talking about a difference of 1"~2 inches in panel thickness versus the implementation of FALD or not.
I guess we will have to wait for test reports on this new 75X940D model to find out how it fares insofar as undesirable screen uniformity issues...
Looks like a lot of folks are confused with the 4000 Nits spec. This years models will NOT have it. That technology is still a prototype and Sony is not even allowing for it to be photographed. Also it should be noted that the 930D is 'Edge lit' so its brightness level is highly questionable! Hate to be a party pooper but it aint all roses. Listen to Cnet's David Katzmeir
Though I've been mentally holding out for a 75"+ OLED in my price range, this 'earless' 940D may do the trick. The 940C is fairly stunning, I just can't accommodate the speakers.
Also interested to see how the 85" 850 series is priced and performs.
I don't remember coming away from a Sony reveal with more questions than answers. Or is it just me?
Im interested in the 55 inch X930D but we really no nothing about the specs.SO most likely it won't get close to the 4000 nits
prototype.
Carlos, you seem to know a ton about Sony's long before most of us. By any chance do you think they will have an 85" flagship FALD unit later this year (not talking about the x850d)
My Positives:
1. Significantly more zones than any TV that has been produced.
2. No Speakers!
My Concerns:
1. Early 2016 release for something they won't even let you photo yet because it is still patent pending?
2. I may have better luck watching a solar eclipse through binoculars... than utilizing the 4000n they are promoting.
S0... The Question in my mind, (and surprise), is, Sony's commitment to the ultra-thin format, especially in light of the problems with lightbleed they had with the 900c. It was a disaster-a format I distrusted since the tv was announced in 2014. I know they announced a "grid-array local-dimming" (what is that) for the 930d-probably in response to the problems they had with the 900c. Nice to look at, but...) I wonder how that will work. The 940d is regular FALD. Maybe the light bleed issues were just related to edgelighting on a thin bezel, and this resolves this?
Also, curious to know how many of owners with speakers would miss them?
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