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post #2281 of 3190 Old 01-06-2017, 10:09 AM
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This screenshot is from CES 2016
All was explained in the link I posted above stating this. As for Vudu, I had a similar issue the first few days i got this set. Hardwired to a 300Mbps down connection, Vudu app had some minor stuttering. I ended up deleting then reinstalling the app and the issue was gone. I'm not a huge Vudu user, but that was how I fixed that minor issue at the time.

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All was explained in the link I posted above stating this.
The Recombu article you linked was about SDR to HDR conversion, which is HDR Effect that we have. It then goes on to call this feature HDR Plus. HDR Plus is the addition of Dolby Vision to the standard HDR10.

Poor journalism, me thinks.

Here's another article, which agrees with the LG spec sheets that the only difference with the 900 series is the True Black+ and Contrast optimiser:-

http://4k.com/news/lg-is-launching-several-new-super-uhd-4k-tvs-with-hdr-plus-technology-11736/

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All was explained in the link I posted above stating this. As for Vudu, I had a similar issue the first few days i got this set. Hardwired to a 300Mbps down connection, Vudu app had some minor stuttering. I ended up deleting then reinstalling the app and the issue was gone. I'm not a huge Vudu user, but that was how I fixed that minor issue at the time.
Thank you.

I've deleted and re-installed the Vudu app several times before, even after factory resets, but I did it again anyway and it DID help the issue. I can't say fixed completely but the video in watchable/normal for the first time for me and the audio is fine as always (watched Mad Max: Fury Road, Pacific Rim, Live Die Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow, etc. in Dolby Vision without the choppiness of before). The TV's GUI speed still seems slower than when not in the Vudu app but seems ever so slightly better. Keep in mine I only bring up the GUI speed not because I'm a nitpick or anything I bring it up just to note a peculiar side effect that I've observed while the Vudu app's video got choppy in Dolby Vision that's not present otherwise.

What has changed? I don't know. Maybe another app update fixed a memory leak or got reduced in size? Maybe the Vudu app had to be deleted and re-installed after all other apps were installed/updated? Maybe using and leaving a certain other app causes a memory issue for Vudu? I'll have to remember what I've done if the issue returns. Whatever it is, it affects the TV's GUI itself which shouldn't happen: TV memory issue? The Vudu app was last updated 11/3/16 (Version 3.0.14).

The available internal storage shows: 392/631MB

The TV's firmware is: 04.30.95

6 total apps installed:
Vudu 3.0.14 [10.53 MB] 11/3/16
Amazon Prime Video 1.1.29 [87.23 MB] 1/4/17
YouTube 1.0.27 [2.28 MB] 12/21/16
DIRECTV Ready 2.2.14 [97.77 MB] 8/26/16
Netflix 1.4.24 [46.71 MB] 12/28/16
Hulu 1.0.9 [176.55 KB] 7/19/16
Google Play Movies 1.0.17 [2.31 MB] 8/19/16
Channel Plus 1.0.17 [1.50 MB] 11/22/16
FandangoNOW 3.1.18 [23.78 MB] 8/19/16

Note the TV GUI still seems slower within Vudu but isn't as bad as it was when the Vudu video was choppy (also note it appears to be slowness with the GUI just being within the Vudu app regardless of Dolby Vision) - also note how the GUI pops up from the bottom of the screen, the speed of the animation at the top of each app 'blade' as the cursor is moved over them and note that I moved the cursor slowly to show this off - the cursor doesn't slow down: just the GUI:


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I think you hit the nail on the head, memory leak or horrible issues with misuse of resources. This probably going to continue regrettably until Vudu optimizes it's app, or LG optimizes the os for Vudu. Unfortunately they are probably playing the blame game.
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I think you hit the nail on the head, memory leak or horrible issues with misuse of resources. This probably going to continue regrettably until Vudu optimizes it's app, or LG optimizes the os for Vudu. Unfortunately they are probably playing the blame game.
Thanks again.

P.S. they have both been civil so far but they both make it clear (with subtlety) that it isn't their fault.
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Hi all – new owner. Is there a definitive answer to the question of whether Dolby Digital + is supported over arc on this TV?

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It is sad... Hard to fathom since formats are still released with 3D in theater and print. Either way, looking at ces there doesn't seem to much in an upgrade to the 2017 OLED's by LG. Panasonic is showing a OLED model, yet no price given on that. Still good there is competition with OLED, so hopefully price drop (and wanting to stick with 3D) I will be grabbing a B6 years end if all works out.
Beware -- the B6 does NOT have 3D. You have to get a C6 or higher in the 2016 models for OLED 3D.
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Beware -- the B6 does NOT have 3D. You have to get a C6 or higher in the 2016 models for OLED 3D.
Your right. Thanks. All going to depend on how price fluctuates which way I go. With others doing OLED now, LG doesn't hold market share so that should drive prices down some, Hopefully.

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I've had the TV for about 3 weeks now. Overall, I've been satisfied with the PQ. There seems to be some kind of banding on the screen when the Directv screensaver is active that follows the bouncing logo. Screen seems to flicker at different times like between channel changes. Last night, screen flickered and came back all pretty in pink. Turned off TV and back on and screen back to normal. Should I be concerned and send it back?

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@brettwf I've got DTV also sometimes mine turns all pink also its in the reciever. If i turn it off and on again its normal again.
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Hi all -- just wanted to say that I bought this TV in Canada during Boxing Week at an amazing price, and after having watched S02E01 of Marco Polo, played some Uncharted 4 in HDR and watched the 3D BR of Fury Road again, I'm absolutely hooked. My previous TV was a 55LW5000, so also edge-lit 3D, and the resulting backlight inconsistency is something I've lived with for years and come to take in stride in this class of TV. Other than that I have no grievances, major or minor. Love it! Besides the price, I wagered that 2017 models would lose 3D and it looks like I was right.
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Does anyone with an Xbox One S still have HDR issues with the Xbox Netflix app? As soon as I open the Netflix app it goes straight to HDR mode for all Netflix content regardless of whether it is actually HDR or not.
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Does anyone with an Xbox One S still have HDR issues with the Xbox Netflix app? As soon as I open the Netflix app it goes straight to HDR mode for all Netflix content regardless of whether it is actually HDR or not.


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Hi all -- just wanted to say that I bought this TV in Canada during Boxing Week at an amazing price, and after having watched S02E01 of Marco Polo, played some Uncharted 4 in HDR and watched the 3D BR of Fury Road again, I'm absolutely hooked. My previous TV was a 55LW5000, so also edge-lit 3D, and the resulting backlight inconsistency is something I've lived with for years and come to take in stride in this class of TV. Other than that I have no grievances, major or minor. Love it! Besides the price, I wagered that 2017 models would lose 3D and it looks like I was right.
I am also from Canada, How much did you buy this for and what size?
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I am also from Canada, How much did you buy this for and what size?
Unsure if I'll break forum rules by answering, but I'll PM you the details.

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I wonder if the TV needs an update to fix this or if the problem is the Xbox One Netflix app...
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Does anyone with an Xbox One S still have HDR issues with the Xbox Netflix app? As soon as I open the Netflix app it goes straight to HDR mode for all Netflix content regardless of whether it is actually HDR or not.
Yes. As long as this as been occurring, i am beginning to think its by design.
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interesting...
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1484051855

even less reason for me to upgrade from my 55UH8500 unless I go OLED
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interesting...
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1484051855

even less reason for me to upgrade from my 55UH8500 unless I go OLED
Great news for us! Our TVs will continue to offer every mainstream HDR format.
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interesting...
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1484051855

even less reason for me to upgrade from my 55UH8500 unless I go OLED


Thanks for the link. To bad about WebOS 3.5 but HLG could be cool at some point in the future. Maybe DirecTV will give it a go on their 4K channels which (at least for now) look great.
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interesting...
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1484051855

even less reason for me to upgrade from my 55UH8500 unless I go OLED
Good to know. If I had to bet, 3.5 will end up late on the 2016 sets. They need something to push the 2017 sets agenda.
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Just got this email:
Dear Customers

We would like to express our thanks to the user who has downloaded and used the LG TV Plus app.

Unfortunately, we would like to inform that, as of February 28, 2017, the application?s content related service will no longer be available due to our internal service operation policy.

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Please be aware that TV Remote, My Page, Mobile Content, My Starter from the LG TV Plus app will continue to be available for your use.

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Given the lack of 3D-capable options for 2017, the 75UH8500 is now on my radar. The pricing for large OLED displays never dropped to realistic levels, so that's definitely out of my budget. It has always been my intention to purchase a new TV to replace my existing set late this year or early 2018 - it seems that circumstances have forced me to accelerate my plans by a little bit.

I currently have a Sony 70R550a, which I've been happily using for the past 3+ years. Most important to me are screen uniformity, and a quality 3D presentation, so I would like to ask if most people are happy with this TVs performance in these two categories? I know black levels won't be inky dark with an edge-lit display. My current TV is wall-mounted in the living room, with a viewing distance of 9 feet. The new TV will be mounted in the same location, and tilted down. The vertical center of the screen should stay within ~8" of eye level (I know how important it is for 3D performance to be seated as close to the center of the vertical axis as possible). Here's a photo of my current setup:



I'm seated close enough to my current TV that on certain scenes, I do notice some loss of detail and "jagged" lines watching 3D content. With the upgrade to 4K, I'm expecting these deficiencies to go away. I'm also hoping ghosting/cross-talk will be kept at a minimum - my current TV does exhibit some of this.

Pricing here in Canada is quite inflated - retail pricing is around $7k CAD, which is out of my reach. I'm hoping closeout pricing later this year will drop the price closer to the $4k range.

I've skimmed through portions of this thread, but it's obviously a lot of information to read through. I'd appreciate any feedback anyone can offer.
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Do you mind sending me a PM as well?

Thanks
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Given the lack of 3D-capable options for 2017, the 75UH8500 is now on my radar. The pricing for large OLED displays never dropped to realistic levels, so that's definitely out of my budget. It has always been my intention to purchase a new TV to replace my existing set late this year or early 2018 - it seems that circumstances have forced me to accelerate my plans by a little bit.

I currently have a Sony 70R550a, which I've been happily using for the past 3+ years. Most important to me are screen uniformity, and a quality 3D presentation, so I would like to ask if most people are happy with this TVs performance in these two categories? I know black levels won't be inky dark with an edge-lit display. My current TV is wall-mounted in the living room, with a viewing distance of 9 feet. The new TV will be mounted in the same location, and tilted down. The vertical center of the screen should stay within ~8" of eye level (I know how important it is for 3D performance to be seated as close to the center of the vertical axis as possible). Here's a photo of my current setup:



I'm seated close enough to my current TV that on certain scenes, I do notice some loss of detail and "jagged" lines watching 3D content. With the upgrade to 4K, I'm expecting these deficiencies to go away. I'm also hoping ghosting/cross-talk will be kept at a minimum - my current TV does exhibit some of this.

Pricing here in Canada is quite inflated - retail pricing is around $7k CAD, which is out of my reach. I'm hoping closeout pricing later this year will drop the price closer to the $4k range.

I've skimmed through portions of this thread, but it's obviously a lot of information to read through. I'd appreciate any feedback anyone can offer.
Check newegg.ca
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Given the lack of 3D-capable options for 2017, the 75UH8500 is now on my radar. The pricing for large OLED displays never dropped to realistic levels, so that's definitely out of my budget. It has always been my intention to purchase a new TV to replace my existing set late this year or early 2018 - it seems that circumstances have forced me to accelerate my plans by a little bit.

I currently have a Sony 70R550a, which I've been happily using for the past 3+ years. Most important to me are screen uniformity, and a quality 3D presentation, so I would like to ask if most people are happy with this TVs performance in these two categories? I know black levels won't be inky dark with an edge-lit display. My current TV is wall-mounted in the living room, with a viewing distance of 9 feet. The new TV will be mounted in the same location, and tilted down. The vertical center of the screen should stay within ~8" of eye level (I know how important it is for 3D performance to be seated as close to the center of the vertical axis as possible). Here's a photo of my current setup:

I'm seated close enough to my current TV that on certain scenes, I do notice some loss of detail and "jagged" lines watching 3D content. With the upgrade to 4K, I'm expecting these deficiencies to go away. I'm also hoping ghosting/cross-talk will be kept at a minimum - my current TV does exhibit some of this.

Pricing here in Canada is quite inflated - retail pricing is around $7k CAD, which is out of my reach. I'm hoping closeout pricing later this year will drop the price closer to the $4k range.

I've skimmed through portions of this thread, but it's obviously a lot of information to read through. I'd appreciate any feedback anyone can offer.
I'm gonna tell myself to relax on the unfortunate LG 3D news. I'm gonna see this as an opportunity for 3D to go on a vacation in 2017 and finish off any remaining 3D sets (which will be picked up by 3D enthusiasts). During this time, LG will be busy improving the quality of 3D in its 4K sets without any pressure. Come 2018, improved passive 3D will be one of the main showcase of that year's CES. Come on LG, please don't disappoint us 3D fans.
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I'm gonna tell myself to relax on the unfortunate LG 3D news. I'm gonna see this as an opportunity for 3D to go on a vacation in 2017 and finish off any remaining 3D sets (which will be picked up by 3D enthusiasts). During this time, LG will be busy improving the quality of 3D in its 4K sets without any pressure. Come 2018, improved passive 3D will be one of the main showcase of that year's CES. Come on LG, please don't disappoint us 3D fans.
Sadly, I lack your patience, although I certainly do hope for the continued viability of 3D content in the consumer market. It's important for the long-term survival of 3D that that TV manufacturers actually produce 3D-capable displays

In any case, I called around and went ahead and ordered the 75" model. I'm cautiously optimistic that I will find the PQ to be acceptable - many of the online reviews I've read give the black levels a below-average rating.
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In any case, I called around and went ahead and ordered the 75" model. I'm cautiously optimistic that I will find the PQ to be acceptable - many of the online reviews I've read give the black levels a below-average rating.
You do get used to it. 2 choices really. Great blacks with "Local Dimming" set to medium with some content displaying the "Pillar of Light", or "Local Dimming" set to off and no "Pillar of Light" with less than stellar blacks. I have mine set to medium across the board as I find that the best for most content after a bit of getting used to.

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You do get used to it. 2 choices really. Great blacks with "Local Dimming" set to medium with some content displaying the "Pillar of Light", or "Local Dimming" set to off and no "Pillar of Light" with less than stellar blacks. I have mine set to medium across the board as I find that the best for most content after a bit of getting used to.

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Thanks for the tip - I'm sure I'll be referring back to this thread frequently to check for the optimum settings once I start adjusting the picture (I use the Disney WOW disc for reference). I typically turn off most/all picture "enhancement" settings, and go from there. And since I'm replacing one edge-lit panel with another edge-lit panel, I suspect there shouldn't be a world of difference, although I'm certainly willing to be surprised (in a good way).
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Thanks for the tip - I'm sure I'll be referring back to this thread frequently to check for the optimum settings once I start adjusting the picture (I use the Disney WOW disc for reference). I typically turn off most/all picture "enhancement" settings, and go from there. And since I'm replacing one edge-lit panel with another edge-lit panel, I suspect there shouldn't be a world of difference, although I'm certainly willing to be surprised (in a good way).
if you can find them here, look for Jeremiah's settings on his UH8500 and go from there, they seemed to be the best, and have used them on my 55uh8500 since I've had my TV last June.
it's a little complicated to answer your original question, since your TV will be up higher and tilted. It seems that those with this set, who don't have the TV at eye level, and have issues with 3D crosstalk, and yours will also be tilted. You just may have to find the sweetspot, for your TV and your viewing angle.

like others have said, you'll get past the "pillars of light" and others quickly, as long as you have the best settings (like I said, I HIGHLY recommend Jeremiah's settings)
you should also invest in a UHD player, I have the Samsung K8500 UHD player, and very happy with it, playing either UHD movies and/or 3D movies. But LG will be releasing their own UHD player this spring, that will be able to play not only HDR10-enabled media from UHD discs, but also Dolby Vision-enabled movies, which the current Samsung 8500 player will not be able to.
(But you'll still be able to play HDR10 movies that are available on current UHD media)
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