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Help Me Choose a 65"

I know it's LCD, but.....

Samsung 65JS9500 or LG 65EF9500

I know LCD and OLED.

Price difference $600.

Help me choose, why??

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I know it's LCD, but.....

Samsung 65JS9500 or LG 65EF9500

I know LCD and OLED.

Price difference $600.

Help me choose, why??

Tnx.
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Not looking to save $$$

Too many negatives, especially because a lot of watching from angles and for 7 months watching hockey.

Tnx.

Thanks.

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Depends on how you plan to use it. Do you do your viewing in completely black room? Do you sit off angle? Do you plan to do any gaming? How interested in HDR are you? If you can find a good panel, the OLED EF9500 is the superior tech in general.

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Should have put those in the first post.

Viewing a large room with windows/sliding glass doors....fairly bright during the day and couple lamps during night time viewing.

Yes.....sit off angle.

No gaming.

HDR?...who knows.

Sources: TiVo box and Infinity box.

Have 3 Samsung (top of line when bought...5 yrs ago) presently.

New build.....large room but wall will take 65 with 75/78 a little over powering.

Tnx.

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No other comments/suggestions??

Thanks.

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No other comments/suggestions??

Vizio P65

See thread in this section.
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Not looking to save $$$

Too many negatives, especially because a lot of watching from angles and for 7 months watching hockey.

Tnx.
It isn't just about saving money. It is about getting the better TV. Your bias against the brand could prevent you from getting the better TV.
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You already dismissed one of the best options because of stereotypes. I strongly suggest that you reconsider the Vizio P-series. Don’t believe something that is said about the TV unless there is real world verifiable evidence presented. Almost everyone has preconceived notions about Vizio and the reviewers are more than happy to continue to propagate those stereotypes.
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+1 on the Vizio

Worst case you return it.
Best case you save big $$ and love the tv
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Just wanting to know how you're only getting a $600 difference betwen the 2 sets.

I've seen JS9500's here as cheap as $2500 recently and routinely for $2800-$3000. Cheapest I've seen a EF9500 was at microcenter they very briefly had them for like $3800, otherwise they still seem to be like 5 grand everywhere.
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Not looking to save $$$

Too many negatives, especially because a lot of watching from angles and for 7 months watching hockey.

Tnx.
Good decision to stay away in my opinion. Other choices available that will do what you are needing. 940c 75" Sony is a great set and at a great price. 65" wise the JS9500 performs well also.


With your sources: TiVo box and Infinity box you will surely not like Vizio.

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Previous Sets: Sony XBR65X930D, XBR65X900B, XBR49X830C, Samsung JS9000, JU7090, JU6500, JU6400, HU9000, HU7250, PN64F8500, Vizio P65, LG 65EF9500, LG 55EC9300
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For offangle viewing the Samsung will suffer..the OLED wins this easily.

Superbright room the OLED will suffer.. the Samsung wins this easily.

No gaming.. either is fine.

Maybe you should look into LG's new 9500 series LED line to get an IPS panel for off angle image quality while still keeping strong daytime viewing brightness. You will give up some of the richer black levels of the OLED or Samsung VA panel but still have a nice picture.

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Another +1 for Vizio P65 here.
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Should have put those in the first post.

Viewing a large room with windows/sliding glass doors....fairly bright during the day and couple lamps during night time viewing.

Yes.....sit off angle.

No gaming.

HDR?...who knows.

Sources: TiVo box and Infinity box.

Have 3 Samsung (top of line when bought...5 yrs ago) presently.

New build.....large room but wall will take 65 with 75/78 a little over powering.

Tnx.
The OLED will fit your needs and blow away most LCD's especially some mentioned here. It is amazing and you absolutely will never have to worry about off angle or poor cable/ota viewing

Current Sets: Sony XBR75X940C, Samsung UN48JS8500
Previous Sets: Sony XBR65X930D, XBR65X900B, XBR49X830C, Samsung JS9000, JU7090, JU6500, JU6400, HU9000, HU7250, PN64F8500, Vizio P65, LG 65EF9500, LG 55EC9300
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I have always been a Samsung fan but it's a real toss up between the
65"

JS9500
EF9500
940C or maybe D

Decisions...decisions.

Visio.....hype I receive is from rtings and others.

I just wish there was a definite deciding factor between the above 3.

Price....all around the same amount. I am not talking a grand difference.

I will listen to everyone but really a tough choice.

Thanks.

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I have always been a Samsung fan but it's a real toss up between the
65"

JS9500
EF9500
940C or maybe D

Decisions...decisions.

Visio.....hype I receive is from rtings and others.

I just wish there was a definite deciding factor between the above 3.

Price....all around the same amount. I am not talking a grand difference.

I will listen to everyone but really a tough choice.
I would rate the choices you listed below in order of preference...

1. 940C /940D 75" FALD screen and the best processing, motion, upscaling, colors available for LCD not to mention Android OS

2. EF9500 OLED Blacks and colors are top of the list, does have a few hiccups with motion

3. JS9500 Fald and also another great LCD but has issues with Motion, stuttering etc. and Curved Screen ;(


I have tried many sets as listed in my signature to get the above conclusion.

Current Sets: Sony XBR75X940C, Samsung UN48JS8500
Previous Sets: Sony XBR65X930D, XBR65X900B, XBR49X830C, Samsung JS9000, JU7090, JU6500, JU6400, HU9000, HU7250, PN64F8500, Vizio P65, LG 65EF9500, LG 55EC9300
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If you are rich beyond measure, buy a OLED, if you are a working class person, go with a 2016 Vizio P series.
65 inch P series has FALD, WCG, HDR and DV for 1999.00 list, nobody can touch this price range yet.
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How much faith/weight do we all put in rtings.

If that is the gold standard then it is OLED.

If not, wish I could find a reseller with all 3 on the floor.

Tnx.

Thanks.

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How much faith/weight do we all put in rtings.

If that is the gold standard then it is OLED.

If not, wish I could find a reseller with all 3 on the floor.

Tnx.
He is decent for a quick over view, but there are others that go into greater depth. How quickly do you have to make a decision? I know there is always something better coming, but there should be some good models released in the next few months and by next year we should truly have a future proof display that offers everything. If you are going to be dealing with extreme angles you almost have to go with OLED or IPS and find some way to deal with the light. Here is an informal list of the top OLEDs and FALD LCD that should be out in the next few months with rough street pricing. You have a curved and flat on the list, so you do not seem to mind the curve. Just buy from someplace that has a great return policy in case what you pick does not fill you needs.

LG 77G6 (Slim, 540 nits, DV, Soundbar, 3D, Flat) $20000
LG 65G6 (Slim, 540 nits, DV, Soundbar, 3D, Flat) $7000
LG 65B6 (540 nits, DV, Flat) $5000


True FALD Flat

Panasonic 65DX900 (512 zones, 1000 nits, Anti-blooming) $4500
Hisense 65M9800U 8K (300 zones, 8K res, HDR10, June in the Uk) $4000
Sharp 70N9100U (192 zones, 800 nits, 90% DCI) $3000
Sony 75X940D (128 or more zones, 1000 nits, XHDR) $6000
Vizio 65R (384 zones, 800 nits, DV) $6000
Vizio P65 (128 zone, 600 nits, DV, Tablet remote) $1900
Vizio P75 (128 zone, 600 nits, DV, Tablet remote) $3600
Philips 658600 (32 zone, 1000nit, true FALD?) $1700

True FALD Curved

Hisense 65H10C (300 zones, 1000+ nits, 100% DCI, 2nd half 2016) $2500
TCL 65X1 Series (288 zones, 1000 nits, DolbyVision, Anti-Glare) $4000
Samsung 65KS9800 (only true FALD from Samsung, Moth-Eye antiglare) $4500
Samsung 78KS9800 (only true FALD from Samsung, Moth-Eye antiglare) $9000

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I'm not sure I get & understand this thread.......

If you're saying saving money isn't any issue then don't you just get the OLED and call it a day/ night?

I mean this thread has gone on a few posts too many.

First person in should've said OLED and closed thread.

Just grab one of these babies

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics...0596000&sr=1-2
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I'm not sure I get & understand this thread.......

If you're saying saving money isn't any issue then don't you just get the OLED and call it a day/ night?

I mean this thread has gone on a few posts too many.

First person in should've said OLED and closed thread.

Just grab one of these babies

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics...0596000&sr=1-2
Did not say money was no object but what real difference does the OLED65G6P offer for double the price, that I would not get from the 65EF9500?

Sytech:

Great choices but time is short. I thought about asking these questions about 3 months ago but figured I would wait until closer to closing/moving. I have 3 Samsungs (55, 46,46). These will go master BR, 2nd BR and study, with the new 65 replacing the 55 in the great/living room (FL terms). Closing will be approx. May 1 and we want to give about 2 weeks for install of fans, lighting, window treatments and handing of TV's, including the new one. So time wise, I have about 30 days and the wife will not be happy if I decide to replace new TV in a year or so... :-(

I can get the LG B6 for around $4.4 but do not think the extra $$$ will get me much more than the 65EF9500. Also, what would the B6 get me over the EF9500??

Thanks for all the help and I guess I will grab a 65EF9500 before they are gone, since the post is out that they are not being produced.

Thanks.

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He is decent for a quick over view, but there are others that go into greater depth.
Any links I can read?

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They are mostly foreign, so you will have to research the equavilant US models number.
AVForum and HDTVtest in the UK, HDFever in France, HDTVPolska in Poland.
Cnet and Reviewed.com are decent for quick overviews in the US.

For your situation of needing off angle viewing and not caring much about HDR, the EF9500 is a great choice. Just hope you get a good panel. Check out the owners thread to know what to look for and buy from a place with a good return policy.

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They are mostly foreign, so you will have to research the equavilant US models number.
AVForum and HDTVtest in the UK, HDFever in France, HDTVPolska in Poland.
Cnet and Reviewed.com are decent for quick overviews in the US.

For your situation of needing off angle viewing and not caring much about HDR, the EF9500 is a great choice. Just hope you get a good panel. Check out the owners thread to know what to look for and buy from a place with a good return policy.
Off to Best Buy to check out viewing and then the afternoon to do some reading.

BUT, it looks like the EF9500 is becoming the TV of choice. Hopefully can see one in person.
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Off to Best Buy to check out viewing and then the afternoon to do some reading.

BUT, it looks like the EF9500 is becoming the TV of choice. Hopefully can see one in person.
That is a very nice TV. I am sure you will be happy with it.
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Well, spent 2 hours in Best Buy.

LG: their own disk which shows beautifully
Vizio: Netflix - House of Cards shows beautifully
Samsung: DVD - Star Wars shows beautifully
Sony: the same but the killer was the wide bezel but great picture from BB source.

Vizio was housed in a black frame about 8" out from the TV, so you had a hard time viewing from the sides.

They looks very much the same in a darkened room with no outside source of video.

Still leaning toward the LG.

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