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Hisense MU9600/65H10C quick review

Looks like they are starting to ship in China. Should be in the US by August at the latest around $2500. Waiting for the flat 8K MU9800 version myself, but if the curve does not bother you looks like good bang for the buck. ULED 3.0, 1200 nits, 240 zones, HDR, MothEye, 90% REC 2020, 99% P3/DCI and upgradable One Connect Box.

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It also has active 3D, unlike the Vizios which dropped it.

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90% REC 2020, 99% P3/DCI

How is it not 100% P3/DCI? Is there one slight spectrum of P3/DCI that it can't resolve even though it goes WAY past P3/DCI in all other areas?
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90% REC 2020, 99% P3/DCI

How is it not 100% P3/DCI? Is there one slight spectrum of P3/DCI that it can't resolve even though it goes WAY past P3/DCI in all other areas?
Yes, I believe so. Here is the color spectrum. The outside triangle is what the MU9600 is capable of. Its coverage area is greater of that, than the inside NTSC standard triangle. Would have been nice if they included the DCI and REC 2020 triangles also.

So far the reviews have been pretty positive. Excellent finish quality and performance. Few problems mention was dark corners common on FALDs, but made worse by the curved screen. And they also mention intense color saturation provided by the quantum dots. Don't know if it can be calibrated out correctly.


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Nice color. Woulda liked to see hdr10 pix though. The big X factor is motion. Seems alot of off brand tvs can hit specs and features but flop in the motion department.
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Nice color. Woulda liked to see hdr10 pix though. The big X factor is motion. Seems alot of off brand tvs can hit specs and features but flop in the motion department.
We will have to wait until someone like Nicholas at HDFever gets one in for an indepth review, but initial reports are it handles motion very well. On paper, it has a 13 segment scanning backlight for BFI that can hit 800 nits full screen to prevent dimming and flickering. Here a few supposed real HDR pics.




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We will have to wait until someone like Nicholas at HDFever gets one in for an indepth review, but initial reports are it handles motion very well. On paper, it has a 13 segment scanning backlight for BFI that can hit 800 nits full screen to prevent dimming and flickering. Here a few supposed real HDR pics.





Must be an hdr converter feature similar to Samsung's HDR+
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These are some impressive stats and those are some impressive pics. I think I'd rather almost go this route for 600 more nits. Maybe that price would come down by Christmas.

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These are some impressive stats and those are some impressive pics. I think I'd rather almost go this route for 600 more nits. Maybe that price would come down by Christmas.
Those are not impressive pics at all. The difference in real HDR vs. SDR is far greater than that. I admit the specs listed for this Tv are impressive. However, I won't believe they are real until I see them. Everything sounds very fishy with this display.
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Those are not impressive pics at all. The difference in real HDR vs. SDR is far greater than that. I admit the specs listed for this Tv are impressive. However, I won't believe they are real until I see them. Everything sounds very fishy with this display.


HDR shouldn't be brighter in the mids than SDR. I'm not sure what they're comparing, but a non-HDR version of a movie should be brighter than the HDR version. It's not like the TV is 4000 nits. Doesn't make sense.


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HDR is only brighter if you assume that a viewer has dropped the backlight and maintained low level quality. Then, HDR bumps the highs up. But the mids shouldn't be much brighter with HDR. I've seen HDR on OLED and LCD with 1000 nits, and the difference doesn't look like that.


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It also has active 3D, unlike the Vizios which dropped it.
The TV sounds promising. The review has allot of details and pics even if did not give allot of measurements, could be the price king (features, color, black levels etc) against the Vizio.
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Yes, I believe so. Here is the color spectrum. The outside triangle is what the MU9600 is capable of. Its coverage area is greater of that, than the inside NTSC standard triangle. Would have been nice if they included the DCI and REC 2020 triangles also.

So far the reviews have been pretty positive. Excellent finish quality and performance. Few problems mention was dark corners common on FALDs, but made worse by the curved screen. And they also mention intense color saturation provided by the quantum dots. Don't know if it can be calibrated out correctly.

Hmm, according to that graph it doesn't get anywhere near Rec 2020. It shows it barely eclipsing sRGB, and the DCI P3 gamut encapsulates sRGB by a much wider margin:



Then Rec 2020 encapsulates DCI P3 by an even greater margin:



Last year's 65H10 model looked good on paper, but craptastic firmware and shoddy attention to detail in terms of video processing plus a bevy of errors and quirks in how it worked really made it less than the sum of its parts. I'm sure this year is better, but the Chinese have a long way to go before they can really compete with the Koreans and Japanese judging by what we've seen so far.
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Another quick review. Looks like a quality product. Hope it has 4 year warranty like last year model. There is still bound to be growing pains, but they are improving ever year. We just need flat version with DolbyVision. The MU9800 8K is flat, but don't know if it has the MothEye or DV. I guess the one connect box could be upgraded, but it took them over a year to finally add HDR to the 65H10B.

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Hmm, according to that graph it doesn't get anywhere near Rec 2020. It shows it barely eclipsing sRGB, and the DCI P3 gamut encapsulates sRGB by a much wider margin:



Then Rec 2020 encapsulates DCI P3 by an even greater margin:



Last year's 65H10 model looked good on paper, but craptastic firmware and shoddy attention to detail in terms of video processing plus a bevy of errors and quirks in how it worked really made it less than the sum of its parts. I'm sure this year is better, but the Chinese have a long way to go before they can really compete with the Koreans and Japanese judging by what we've seen so far.
No TV can do rec. 2020

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Some nice black levels. Just hope the red push can be calibrated out. More and more of these WCG display using the new 90% Rec 2020 Nanosys Quantum Dot film seem to have slight red push out of box.





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Some nice black levels. Just hope the red push can be calibrated out. More and more of these WCG display using the new 90% Rec 2020 Nanosys Quantum Dot film seem to have slight red push out of box.






Thats purty.

As for red push, alot of times the camera will exaggerate that. Also, I've learned that quantum dot displays will show up with pink in pictures that isn't quite there in person.
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Looks really nice to me. I for sure look forward top seeing one. Going to update in the spare room and this may fit the budget.

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Hard to go on pics for blooming and not really a fair competition, but will post it anyway while we wait for a reputable review. LG IPS lower left and Hisense MU9600 upper right.


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