Originally Posted by temery
We’ve had the KS9800 since Friday, and I have to say I think this is the right tv for me. I feel like the picture is much better than the OLED’s overall, and this is echoed by every person that had seen both TV’s. However, both TV’s were simply taken out of the box and turned on. Only minor adjustments to the settings, mostly switching between the preset ones, and with the Samsung turning the backlighting down quite a bit (this is one bright tv). Two of the people that seen both TV’s actually said they think maybe the OLED was a faulty one or something. I think part of the reason is that I don’t have a 4k signal available to test out, so we are simply watching upconverted material from my Dish receiver and the Samsung just handles it better. I do notice there seems to be too much red in the skin tone on some channels on the Dish receiver, while other channels appear great. Maybe this is just the different qualitys between the channels? Everything I have been viewing as been an HD signal – only a little SDR stuff from Netflix (borrowing my neighbors who didn’t bump up the plan to HD)
That being said, I do have some questions issues I’m hoping someone can help out with.
First – when I exchanged the TV’s I also picked up a Panamax 5100 power conditioner/surge protector and some AudioQuest Chocolate HDMI cables. The deal was too good to pass up and with the money I saved switching to the Samsung I pretty much evened out. When the Dish guys came to setup the new 4k DVR “Joey” setup, they didn’t want to pass the coax thru the Panamax, stating it could block or slow down the signal the Joey DVR sends to the other connected HDR box I have in the master bedroom. Apparently the box in the master bedroom has to connect to the Joey main DVR to access the DVR and VOD stuff, and having something between the satellite dish and the DVR box can interrupt that??? I think the guy just doesn’t know what he is doing but at that point I just wanted everything setup. I figure if this turns out to be untrue I can simply move the cord and buy a small coax to incorporate the Panamax.
One of the issues I noticed with the Samsung is that it is crazy bright, even during the day – on all settings. I had to go in and turn the “backlight” down from 20 to around 9. Does this affect the color at all or simply just the light output? Anything higher than a 9 is just way to bright at night.
Another issue – when we are watching a scene where the camera is panning slightly fast horizontally, there is a ton of juddering/jumping. I don’t see it any other time – Both my wife and I are very susceptive to the soap opera affect so anytime I’m watching a new TV I always turn all the noise settings and the like off completely. It seems I may need to try to find a good balance on this tv as turning them off completely causes this issue, but when they were on AUTO the soap opera affect was unbearable to us.
Third – I was excited to try out this new HDR+ setting – however I was very disappointed. Maybe I’ve just been watching TV wrong all these years but when I turned on that setting, everything appeared to have a very distinct yellow tint/hue. Everything. I tried adjusting things using my Disney WOW calibration disc and the HDR+ setting on – and couldn’t not achieve the “Ideal White” setting at all –even with the contrast set to 100, there was yellowish boxes visible all the way down to the “Plus 3%” area of the chart. So that makes me think this yellow tint/hue issue is not just my eyes or in my head – anyone have the same experience? Is this just that I have grown accustomed to a poor picture on my other set or something? FWIW I did not see this type of issue with the OLED under any setting.
Other than the HDR+ yellowing issue, I’ve been pretty happy with this. I have not been able to view a 4k signal yet, as the Dish 4k setup so far only offers 4k stuff from VOD, and the internet was not properly setup as of this update for me to view them. I willhopefully have time soon to try out the Disney Wow disc on the standard setting and see how that looks.
Last question, do any of the current blue ray players that “upconvert to 4k/UDH” do much more than what the TV display can do? Would it be worth me picking a model up? I’m planning to buy the Xbox S to use as my main UHD player, however I do have a large collection of blue rays so if I could benefit from an upconverting player now I would pick one up to enjoy.
You may want to post future questions in the ks9800 owners thread, though there aren't a whole lot of owners yet.
-turning backlight down is normal, as you said, the tv is INSANELY bright which is great for daytime bright living rooms. Turning down brightness will not affect color. Which by the way is usually good at the 45-50 setting, but you may need to go lower because the colors are very strong on this set.
-try turning judder on 2 or 3 to help with the judder/jumping.
- as for hdr+, if you don't want whites to be yellowish, make sure color tone is on standard. 1 thing I've noticed though is menu whites aren't completely white, but the whites are white during actual content. You have to be careful using hdr+ on lower sources, they sometimes don't play well together.
-I wouldn't recommend using a blu ray player to up convert right now. It would take a very high end player to up convert better than the built in scaler.
-4k netflix looks amazing on the ks9800. I would definitely advise you to at least try it out.
Also, does the tv handle reflections better than the oled?