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$7,499.99 MSRP

I could be fine with that price tag, considering it will NOT sell there for long before going on "sale". However the 'No Dolby Vision until the end of the year' is completely absurd and negates the whole reason why I was waiting for this TV... I get that sounds melodramatic however I have been putting off on the 940D specifically because it was not going to support Dolby Vision. So I figured I would wait until the 940E. However now I find out that I won't have DV until prob close to 2018 for nearly double the price... its really not a shocker why so many people buy Vizio.

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Where did Sony announcement the Dolby vision date?


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None of the Sony 2017 TV's have 3D and that includes the XBR-75X940E. That is to bad because I kind of enjoy watching a 3D movie every once in a while. I wish one of the big 3 TV makers would come out with a 3D TV. Maybe next year. ?
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None of the Sony 2017 TV's have 3D and that includes the XBR-75X940E. That is to bad because I kind of enjoy watching a 3D movie every once in a while. I wish one of the big 3 TV makers would come out with a 3D TV. Maybe next year. ?
They are just skipping this year for fun. 3D is done.
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They are just skipping this year for fun. 3D is done.
Yeah. Disney has already backed off on 3D discs as well. Stick a fork in home 3D, it's dead Jim.

In regards to pricing of the 940E - even knowing price will dip below MSRP, who is this TV even for? The Z9D is only about a grand more and is so much more TV for the money, I can't see many people opting for this one. I don't think those of us willing to drop $6/7k on a television are that price conscious to begin with anyway.
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Is it worth the extra $1,500 for those features?
In my opinion, yes.
Especially frame dimming is not suitable for good HDR content, because it dimms the whole screen instead of individual areas
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Obviously you've never done business with Robert

Big difference between VE and a place like B&H. Call and talk to the guy who starting the infamous Shoot Out and you'll hang up impressed. Plus you can pay extra for calibration so once it's delivered your enjoying a great picture out-of-the-box. Important step with anything HDR.
The little contact I have had with VE that is correct, can tell it very good company. They only do 1 year financing which is tough, I don't know many people that have an extra $6000+ To drop on a tv or even could make $500+/mo payments
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What does VE stand for? Thanks.
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Value Electronics... I wanted the 940E but due to the price I'm trying to convince myself to get the 900E..I wanted that 10x contrast!
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Value Electronics... I wanted the 940E but due to the price I'm trying to convince myself to get the 900E..I wanted that 10x contrast!
Same here. I wanted the 930e 65" but because of price I think I may just get the 850e 65" I know the 930e has better picture and sound but I wonder by how much? Also would the LG 65" be better and cheaper than Sony's? I saw their lineup of the SJ9500 and SJ8500 but they didn't have prices yet. Would those be as much as the 850e?
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Same here. I wanted the 930e 65" but because of price I think I may just get the 850e 65" I know the 930e has better picture and sound but I wonder by how much? Also would the LG 65" be better and cheaper than Sony's? I saw their lineup of the SJ9500 and SJ8500 but they didn't have prices yet. Would those be as much as the 850e?


The price will drop like they always do. If buying right now I would choose a 2016 930d over 850e.
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I saw the new LG Super Ultra HD lineup will have support for all four HDR formats. I didn't even realize that there are four HDR formats.
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I saw the new LG Super Ultra HD lineup will have support for all four HDR formats. I didn't even realize that there are four HDR formats.
Do we know what system on chip the E series uses? Hope it is better than mediatek mt5891.
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Do we know what system on chip the E series uses? Hope it is better than mediatek mt5891.
I don't know anything about that.

Is Sony's Triluminos display just as good as Dolby Vision to where it wont matter if the 4k TV has it?

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Basically, they're completely different things. Triluminous is a panel technology (think Wide Color Gamut). Dolby Vision is an HDR standard.
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Same here. I wanted the 930e 65" but because of price I think I may just get the 850e 65" I know the 930e has better picture and sound but I wonder by how much? Also would the LG 65" be better and cheaper than Sony's? I saw their lineup of the SJ9500 and SJ8500 but they didn't have prices yet. Would those be as much as the 850e?
The 65X900E looks like it's going to be the sweet-spot for the 65" in the Sony line. The 930E is edge-lit, the 900E is FALD, the 850E will lack local dimming altogether.

If the 900 series ends up with DV (there seems to be some confusion about whether or not it has it) they'll be very nice price/performance.
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So is the 850e pretty much the 930d with the new hdr processing ?

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Forgot about the local dimming on the 930d. Beside that it seems the 930d trickled down to the 850e. Hopefully the 850 wont be as thin as the 930d and wont have to rely on local dimming to try to get anything close to decent black uniformity like the 930. Probably be ultra thin though and have horrible uniformity like almost all sets now. Just dont understand why the majority of people would rather have a tv as thin as possible with a garbage picture. I would be fine with a set 6 inches thick as long as it looks good. My sony 630b from 3 years ago ,half the price and 3 times as thick has way better uniformity than my 930

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Forgot about the local dimming on the 930d. Beside that it seems the 930d trickled down to the 850e. Hopefully the 850 wont be as thin as the 930d and wont have to rely on local dimming to try to get anything close to decent black uniformity like the 930. Probably be ultra thin though and have horrible uniformity like almost all sets now. Just dont understand why the majority of people would rather have a tv as thin as possible with a garbage picture. I would be fine with a set 6 inches thick as long as it looks good. My sony 630b from 3 years ago ,half the price and 3 times as thick has way better uniformity than my 930

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The 900E is probably going to be the way to go if you want the best uniformity in a 65". From Sony's specs it's thicker than the 930E or the 850E, and is FALD vs edge-lit like the other two. You need the thicker depth to support the full-array backlight.
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Forgot about the local dimming on the 930d. Beside that it seems the 930d trickled down to the 850e. Hopefully the 850 wont be as thin as the 930d and wont have to rely on local dimming to try to get anything close to decent black uniformity like the 930. Probably be ultra thin though and have horrible uniformity like almost all sets now. Just dont understand why the majority of people would rather have a tv as thin as possible with a garbage picture. I would be fine with a set 6 inches thick as long as it looks good. My sony 630b from 3 years ago ,half the price and 3 times as thick has way better uniformity than my 930

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The 900E is probably going to be the way to go if you want the best uniformity in a 65". From Sony's specs it's thicker than the 930E or the 850E, and is FALD vs edge-lit like the other two. You need the thicker depth to support the full-array backlight.
Yeah, the 900 does look pretty nice on paper. Any info on the panels yet? My parents have the 750d with the ips panel and the black levels are pretty bad. I guess if they do use a ips on the 900 the local dimming should help quite a bit

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The 65X900E looks like it's going to be the sweet-spot for the 65" in the Sony line. The 930E is edge-lit, the 900E is FALD, the 850E will lack local dimming altogether.
Sure seems to me that Sony is playing on words. So the 930E is more cash and not FALD, the 900E is FALD and less cash. When does that happen? Then we read the print. ""full-array direct LED backlight with local dimming for very good picture contrast and black levels". That sound like a play on words trick manufacturers love to use when they are a hybrid technology, for example a edge lit TV with a few local dimming zones. Why not just say Full Array Local Dimming?? I say, watch this real close guys. I think we will find the real deal when they are released......
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Will be interesting to see how this box compares to LGs OLED range
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No, it's not as bright and I don't believe it comes with the extended dynamic range feature. Sony had the 850e and 900e side by side and the 850 is much darker.
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Sure seems to me that Sony is playing on words. So the 930E is more cash and not FALD, the 900E is FALD and less cash. When does that happen? Then we read the print. ""full-array direct LED backlight with local dimming for very good picture contrast and black levels". That sound like a play on words trick manufacturers love to use when they are a hybrid technology, for example a edge lit TV with a few local dimming zones. Why not just say Full Array Local Dimming?? I say, watch this real close guys. I think we will find the real deal when they are released......

900e IS full array local dimming. I still say this tv may be the 2017 version of vizio P series. (Low price and excellent performance).

This also appears to be a VA panel. IPS doesn't get this dark.






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900e IS full array local dimming. I still say this tv may be the 2017 version of vizio P series. (Low price and excellent performance).

This also appears to be a VA panel. IPS doesn't get this dark.






I know this was at the Sony showing in the U.K., are these screen grabs from a video or did you take these photos? If video, could you please share the link? Thanks
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Sure seems to me that Sony is playing on words. So the 930E is more cash and not FALD, the 900E is FALD and less cash. When does that happen? Then we read the print. ""full-array direct LED backlight with local dimming for very good picture contrast and black levels". That sound like a play on words trick manufacturers love to use when they are a hybrid technology, for example a edge lit TV with a few local dimming zones. Why not just say Full Array Local Dimming?? I say, watch this real close guys. I think we will find the real deal when they are released......
Interesting thoughts. Are you guys offering preorders on the 2017 Sony lineup? And do you offer financing of any type? Thanks for your help.
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These photos are from John Archer in his article last week on Trusted Reviews. John was at the event.

the 900e is really intrigueing at that price point. you get Extended Dynamic Range pro, which was on the 940D, the "new" X1 which features the new super bit mapping technology, and it appears you get 1000+ nits. Like other fald tvs it will have its limitations, but for the price point its an excellent job by Sony.
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These photos are from John Archer in his article last week on Trusted Reviews. John was at the event.

the 900e is really intrigueing at that price point. you get Extended Dynamic Range pro, which was on the 940D, the "new" X1 which features the new super bit mapping technology, and it appears you get 1000+ nits. Like other fald tvs it will have its limitations, but for the price point its an excellent job by Sony.
Thanks, I'm coming from an 1080p 70" edge lit LG with local dimming that I think looks pretty good (after calibration), so I'm sure any of these sets will be a huge upgrade for me.
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