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Sony 930E and 900E questions

I am considering these two TVs. I am confused from initial research.

First on Dolby Vision. A Flatpanel review listed only the 930E and up will have Dolby Vision, while some other sites have indicated the 900E will also and Best Buy lists, who typically just lists what the manufacturer cites as features, Dolby Vision under HDR for the X900E. Anyone know of any Sony confirmation on whether the X900E will or will not have Dolby Vision?

On weight of TVs. A 65 inch 930E is listed as weighing almost 95 pounds with stand and almost 85 without stand. That is almost double what modern 65 inch LCD TVs weigh. It is listed that way on Sony's site, so I do not think it is a typo. Anyone know if it is mistake? Also, out of curiosity, I wonder why it weighs so much if that specification is correct.
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The 900e is not getting Dolby Vision, the some other sites are wrong and that statement has been confirmed by Sony. As for the weight, its correct and definitely has caught my attention. The X1 extreme processor can't weigh that much more. I would assume/hope that given the difference in price you are seeing better materials (less plastic) going into the 930e - it does cost more - vs. the 900e. Chris from Cleveland Plasma has said more than a few times that given the price difference between the Sony's that use FALD, somethings got to give on the performance with the 900e, numbers just don't add up. You could always visit VE, apparently they have a 900e setup and running.

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I am looking to wall-mount a 55" tv in a space that is not going to be used for critical viewing. I have other setups for that. 55" is the absolute largest I can fit into that space. I can't justify the A1E pricing for that usage, so I'm choosing between a 55" X900E, X930E, or trying to find something older. Since the 55" X930E is edge-lit, is X900E the clear winner in that size category for having FALD, given that it's also cheaper? Design and appearance is also a factor for where it's going.
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The 900e is not getting Dolby Vision, the some other sites are wrong and that statement has been confirmed by Sony. As for the weight, its correct and definitely has caught my attention. The X1 extreme processor can't weigh that much more. I would assume/hope that given the difference in price you are seeing better materials (less plastic) going into the 930e - it does cost more - vs. the 900e. Chris from Cleveland Plasma has said more than a few times that given the price difference between the Sony's that use FALD, somethings got to give on the performance with the 900e, numbers just don't add up. You could always visit VE, apparently they have a 900e setup and running.
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We know very little about the X900E at this point..might as well be a 50 zones or less FALD...poor man's FALD so to speak. Just wait for critical online reviews.
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We know very little about the X900E at this point..might as well be a 50 zones or less FALD...poor man's FALD so to speak. Just wait for critical online reviews.
for being fald the tv is thinner then expected. good picture quality. It's on display already at my bestbuy.
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Im currently reviewing this tv amd so far i have noticed black uniformity issues with my display.
However the colors do appear to be over saturated out of the box. More info will come in time as I test this tv. If you would like any testing done, let me know.
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Im currently reviewing this tv amd so far i have noticed black uniformity issues with my display.
However the colors do appear to be over saturated out of the box. More info will come in time as I test this tv. If you would like any testing done, let me know.
I have a PS4 pro and I'm looking for a new TV and I'm interested in the 900E and would love to hear your experience with gaming, specifically the input lag. I'm worried it might have the same input lag as the 930D, since this TV slots in between the 930D and 930E.
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Im currently reviewing this tv amd so far i have noticed black uniformity issues with my display.
However the colors do appear to be over saturated out of the box. More info will come in time as I test this tv. If you would like any testing done, let me know.

A zone count using the avs zone count video via youtube would be a good starting point. Do you have equipment to measure peak brightness?
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I have a PS4 pro and I'm looking for a new TV and I'm interested in the 900E and would love to hear your experience with gaming, specifically the input lag. I'm worried it might have the same input lag as the 930D, since this TV slots in between the 930D and 930E.
I do not have a ps4 but do have a xbox one s and gaming computer with a gtx 1070 and will test to see how bad the input lag is for first person shooter games and racing games.

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A zone count using the avs zone count video via youtube would be a good starting point. Do you have equipment to measure peak brightness?
I unfortunately do not have any testing equipment as of yet and will definitely test the zone count for you and post the results here.
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Im currently reviewing this tv amd so far i have noticed black uniformity issues with my display.
However the colors do appear to be over saturated out of the box. More info will come in time as I test this tv. If you would like any testing done, let me know.
When sitting on its stand, is the screen straight up or does it lean back, or are there adjustments where you have choice of straight or leaning? It is confusing because there are pictures with it leaning back (but do not look official - might be pictures of other models), but on the Sony site (where I assume they are official pictures of that exact TV), it shows it straight up while on the stand.
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When sitting on its stand, is the screen straight up or does it lean back, or are there adjustments where you have choice of straight or leaning? It is confusing because there are pictures with it leaning back (but do not look official - might be pictures of other models), but on the Sony site (where I assume they are official pictures of that exact TV), it shows it straight up while on the stand.

The tv is straight up, you cannot adjust the "lean" of tv. When you assemble the tv, the legs slide into the slot and you secure them with screws and attach the small silver vanity plate on the front between the legs.
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The tv is straight up, you cannot adjust the "lean" of tv. When you assemble the tv, the legs slide into the slot and you secure them with screws and attach the small silver vanity plate on the front between the legs.
Thanks for replying. Just to confirm please: so it sets pretty much straight up as most TVs do on their stands - no material lean?
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Thanks for replying. Just to confirm please: so it sets pretty much straight up as most TVs do on their stands - no material lean?
Yes, the tv is standing straight up. There is no visible lean on the tv.
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We know very little about the X900E at this point..might as well be a 50 zones or less FALD...poor man's FALD so to speak. Just wait for critical online reviews.
According to AV Forums they suspect it only has 20 dimming zones on the 65" model. I am not entirely sure how it can have so few on a FALD TV.
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A zone count using the avs zone count video via youtube would be a good starting point. Do you have equipment to measure peak brightness?
here you go


I can take better video but this was recorded on my s7 edge
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I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't make out any zones from your video. Can you count them yourself?
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here you go

https://youtu.be/BMJRiBaqrYY

I can take better video but this was recorded on my s7 edge
Is using a smartphone to record really a good way to do this? I have noticed that since my phone likes to improve low light photography so much it dramatically changes the blacks. It makes the set look lighter than it is in person when testing local dimming.

I am guessing the white text in your video is a good example of this. No way its that bad.
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Is using a smartphone to record really a good way to do this? I have noticed that since my phone likes to improve low light photography so much it dramatically changes the blacks. It makes the set look lighter than it is in person when testing local dimming.

I am guessing the white text in your video is a good example of this. No way its that bad.
Its definitely not that bad in person, otherwise I would have released the entire review by now. There is no blooming around the text at all in person and will reflect in my written review of this tv. But it seems like its impossible to record this from my phone without the visual issues that are being experienced. I try again from the side, but in person it was 6 horizontal and 7 vertical. so 42 zones in total.

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Its definitely not that bad in person, otherwise I would have released the entire review by now. There is no blooming around the text at all in person and will reflect in my written review of this tv. But it seems like its impossible to record this from my phone without the visual issues that are being experienced. I try again from the side, but in person it was 6 horizontal and 7 vertical. so 42 zones in total.

https://youtu.be/cfS5jSd1Htk
The best way to count is to stand off to the side because blooming is worse off angle and u can see the zones lighting up. What size is the tv again?


Edit: I see its a 55"

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The best way to count is to stand off to the side because blooming is worse off angle and u can see the zones lighting up. What size is the tv again?

55inch, I counted while viewing from the side the second time and those are the numbers that I got.
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well that definitely looks like it's FALD for sure. zones look pretty huge though.
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Video Review 900E :
Written Review : https://www.avforums.com/review/sony...v-review.13437

20 dimming zones for the 65", max 936nits
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Video Review 900E : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1YPpT72xFs
Written Review : https://www.avforums.com/review/sony...v-review.13437

20 dimming zones for the 65", max 936nits

finally!! a real review
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Just dropping these links here.

Official 930E owners thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...-s-thread.html

Official 900E owners thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...rs-thread.html
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Video Review 900E : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1YPpT72xFs
Written Review : https://www.avforums.com/review/sony...v-review.13437

20 dimming zones for the 65", max 936nits
What about the 75" model?

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I have read the individual threads for both these TV. Has anyone compared these set closely and is the 930 E worth the extra $500?
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