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Sorry. I think I made a mistake here. I was confusing YouTube with Google Play Movies. That will require a Chromecast Ultra for HDR.

I’m not sure of the device list that supports YouTube HDR. I’ll get back to you.


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I believe there are some Samsung and LG TVs that have Youtube HDR. A few new Mobile devices support it as well. I've read that some of these devices are software updates compared to hardware, and that opens up another can of worms according to some more knowledgeable users.
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If you pull up a video, LG Chess for example, on the Chromecast Ultra, click on "Action Menu" on your Remote, then go into the video settings. In the upper-right corner of the screen you should see the label "HDR".

Play that same video using the Youtube app on the display, follow the same instructions as above for the remote, and HDR will not appear on the display.

Also be sure that the CCU is connected to HDMI 2 or 3 and Enhanced Mode is enabled. This enables the wider colorspace for HDR to work.
That's exactly what he said. He's just saying that they LOOK the same to him.

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I believe there are some Samsung and LG TVs that have Youtube HDR. A few new Mobile devices support it as well. I've read that some of these devices are software updates compared to hardware, and that opens up another can of worms according to some more knowledgeable users.
But not Roku, Apple TV, Shield, Fire TV, etc.?

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But not Roku, Apple TV, Shield, Fire TV, etc.?
I know the Shield, Apple TV4k, and the new Roku line do not have the youtube HDR app, not sure about the Fire TV.

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That's exactly what he said. He's just saying that they LOOK the same to him.
But we still do not know if Enhanced Mode is enabled on the HDMI port he is using.

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But we still do not know if Enhanced Mode is enabled on the HDMI port he is using.
I have enhanced mode enabled. I also have a Samsung KS8000 which has native YouTube HDR. I also downloaded a few videos to a USB key. I also have the correct Certified Premium Cables. Honestly, I can't see the difference between the Chromecast and the native app in the set. However, the native app doesn't flag as HDR in the menu. The brightness does go to Max. I will post a video over the weekend.
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The set is WAY too reflective.
Get used to it, almost all TV's today are that way........
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I believe there are some Samsung and LG TVs that have Youtube HDR. A few new Mobile devices support it as well. I've read that some of these devices are software updates compared to hardware, and that opens up another can of worms according to some more knowledgeable users.


I know that certain tv’s have this capability. I meant stand alone streaming devices. I know The Apple TV 4K doesn’t do it. Wasn’t sure about the Shield and the Roku. But you’ve confirmed they don’t and I’ll take your word for it.

Software updates to enable VP9.2? I’ll have a look into that.


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I know that certain tv’s have this capability. I meant stand alone streaming devices. I know The Apple TV 4K doesn’t do it. Wasn’t sure about the Shield and the Roku. But you’ve confirmed they don’t and I’ll take your word for it.

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That's the "blurriness" of it all. With the Nvidia Shield, it can't get VP9 Profile 2 because of a hardware limitation. I'm assuming this "maybe" is the case with the 900e line of Displays. However, I'm curious as to what other Sony displays already have the VP9 Profile 2 update which allows for youtube hdr, and is this the same Youtube app being used across model lines.
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For those considering a purchase who are big into live sports in the USA I think it's important to call out that the 900E is a major downgrade from a 1080p panel when it comes to broadcast content that is 720p. Whether the upscaling is handled by the 900E or by your DVR, it seems there simply are too many pixels for the TV to recreate and the blocking, smearing, screen-dooring, etc. are more visible than you're used to.

In the US, that means networks like FOX, ABC, Big 10, FS1, MLB, ESPN, ESPN2, Disney Channel, National Geographic, and others carried by your local cable or satellite provider are going to look worse on your brand new Sony 4K TV than they did on a comparable 1080p TV.

The 1080i broadcasts will look stellar, they'll be a major step forward in clarity, brightness, and color. But if you are a fan of NFL football or MLB baseball, be prepared that about half the games you'll watch are going to look a little crappy.
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Has anyone figured out how to make it so the USB ports stay powered down while the TV is off?

I really want to use a USB port to power bias lighting, but the ports keep powering on intermittently while the TV is off. It drives me nuts.
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For those considering a purchase who are big into live sports in the USA I think it's important to call out that the 900E is a major downgrade from a 1080p panel when it comes to broadcast content that is 720p. Whether the upscaling is handled by the 900E or by your DVR, it seems there simply are too many pixels for the TV to recreate and the blocking, smearing, screen-dooring, etc. are more visible than you're used to.

In the US, that means networks like FOX, ABC, Big 10, FS1, MLB, ESPN, ESPN2, Disney Channel, National Geographic, and others carried by your local cable or satellite provider are going to look worse on your brand new Sony 4K TV than they did on a comparable 1080p TV.

The 1080i broadcasts will look stellar, they'll be a major step forward in clarity, brightness, and color. But if you are a fan of NFL football or MLB baseball, be prepared that about half the games you'll watch are going to look a little crappy.
I have zero of the problems you describe above with my Sony 900E. I keep everything from my Comcast Xfinity STB at 720p. I tried all the Comcast resolution settings and I like keeping it at 720p best. Zero blocking, smearing, screen door, etc. I have no idea on what you are talking about. That has not been my experience with 720p broadcast signals for either my 49" or 75" sets.

I watched hockey last night and the picture was phenomenal. No banding! It was the Avalanche versus the Rangers and it must have been a MSG feed. Absolutely pristine sharp picture that was very bright. It's much easier to follow the puck on a 75" screen.
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For those considering a purchase who are big into live sports in the USA I think it's important to call out that the 900E is a major downgrade from a 1080p panel when it comes to broadcast content that is 720p. Whether the upscaling is handled by the 900E or by your DVR, it seems there simply are too many pixels for the TV to recreate and the blocking, smearing, screen-dooring, etc. are more visible than you're used to.

In the US, that means networks like FOX, ABC, Big 10, FS1, MLB, ESPN, ESPN2, Disney Channel, National Geographic, and others carried by your local cable or satellite provider are going to look worse on your brand new Sony 4K TV than they did on a comparable 1080p TV.

The 1080i broadcasts will look stellar, they'll be a major step forward in clarity, brightness, and color. But if you are a fan of NFL football or MLB baseball, be prepared that about half the games you'll watch are going to look a little crappy.
The source content has a lot to do with what your TV reproduces, and not all sources are the same, regardless of resolution.

Also, do you mean dirty screen effect rather than screen door effect? Either way, doesn't seem like either of those things would be affected by the signal. Those seem like panel-specific traits.

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For those considering a purchase who are big into live sports in the USA I think it's important to call out that the 900E is a major downgrade from a 1080p panel when it comes to broadcast content that is 720p. Whether the upscaling is handled by the 900E or by your DVR, it seems there simply are too many pixels for the TV to recreate and the blocking, smearing, screen-dooring, etc. are more visible than you're used to.

In the US, that means networks like FOX, ABC, Big 10, FS1, MLB, ESPN, ESPN2, Disney Channel, National Geographic, and others carried by your local cable or satellite provider are going to look worse on your brand new Sony 4K TV than they did on a comparable 1080p TV.

The 1080i broadcasts will look stellar, they'll be a major step forward in clarity, brightness, and color. But if you are a fan of NFL football or MLB baseball, be prepared that about half the games you'll watch are going to look a little crappy.
I keep my DVR Cable box (Spectrum) at 720p and 1080i and I don't see the problems mentioned. The one thing I do notice when watching MLB in 1080i is the white boxes around the baseball stats will sometimes flicker when there is very fast movement. The source resolution of this channel is 1080i. If I set the box to only 720p, this effect goes away but I want the native resolution to be passed to the TV instead of the box downscaling to 720p and then having the TV upscaling to 4k. I tried experimenting turning off/on various processing options to no avail.

The one downfall to selecting the 2 different resolutions is the slight delay when switching between 720p and 1080i channels.

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The source content has a lot to do with what your TV reproduces, and not all sources are the same, regardless of resolution.

Also, do you mean dirty screen effect rather than screen door effect? Either way, doesn't seem like either of those things would be affected by the signal. Those seem like panel-specific traits.
My TLC channel is 1080i but the source is so bad it makes the picture painful to watch. Crap in, crap out...The TV upscaler can only do so much.

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For those considering a purchase who are big into live sports in the USA I think it's important to call out that the 900E is a major downgrade from a 1080p panel when it comes to broadcast content that is 720p. Whether the upscaling is handled by the 900E or by your DVR, it seems there simply are too many pixels for the TV to recreate and the blocking, smearing, screen-dooring, etc. are more visible than you're used to.

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The 1080i broadcasts will look stellar, they'll be a major step forward in clarity, brightness, and color. But if you are a fan of NFL football or MLB baseball, be prepared that about half the games you'll watch are going to look a little crappy.
I disagree with your entire premise.
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I keep my DVR Cable box (Spectrum) at 720p and 1080i and I don't see the problems mentioned. The one thing I do notice when watching MLB in 1080i is the white boxes around the baseball stats will sometimes flicker when there is very fast movement. The source resolution of this channel is 1080i. If I set the box to only 720p, this effect goes away but I want the native resolution to be passed to the TV instead of the box downscaling to 720p and then having the TV upscaling to 4k. I tried experimenting turning off/on various processing options to no avail.

The one downfall to selecting the 2 different resolutions is the slight delay when switching between 720p and 1080i channels.
It would be nice if Comcast would allow me to choose a native broadcast resolution but they do not. My choices are 720p, 1080i or everything upscaled to 1080p. So - I decided it was best to down convert from 1080i to 720p as opposed to having Comcast upscale anything. Channels that broadcast in 720p are passed thru at their native resolution.

As mentioned before in this thread - the Sony 900E does a great job of upscaling but it also shows the flaws of an inferior signal. My old 1080p TV did a better job with poor source content but the newer 4K TV's aren't as forgiving. That's o.k. I prefer the upscaling of the Sony 900E and try not to watch poor source content no matter what the source. I guess I'm like Sgt. McCluskey in the original Godfather movie In that "I can't stand the aggravation."

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It would be nice if Comcast would allow me to choose a native broadcast resolution but they do not. My choices are 720p, 1080i or everything upscaled to 1080p. So - I decided it was best to down convert from 1080i to 720p as opposed to having Comcast upscale anything. Channels that broadcast in 720p are passed thru at their native resolution.

As mentioned before in this thread - the Sony 900E does a great job of upscaling but it also shows the flaws of an inferior signal. My old 1080p TV did a better job with poor source content but the newer 4K TV's aren't as forgiving. That's o.k. I prefer the upscaling of the Sony 900E and try not to watch poor source content no matter what the source. I guess I'm like Sgt. McCluskey in the original Godfather movie In that "I can't stand the aggravation."

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Agreed. At some point I'll probably just set it at 720p like you did when I get tired of the pause when switching between resolutions.

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I have zero problems that you describe above with my Sony 900E. I keep everything from my Comcast Xfinity STB at 720p. I tried all the Comcast resolution settings and I like keeping it at 720p best. Zero blocking, smearing, screen door, etc. I have no idea on what you are talking about. That has not been my experience with 720p broadcast signals for either my 49" or 75" sets.



I watched hockey last night and the picture was phenomenal. No banding! It was the Avalanche versus the Rangers and it must have been a MSG feed. Absolutely pristine sharp and bright. It's much easier to follow the puck on 75" screen.


So you recommend setting at 720p for xfinity and not 1080p

Do you have it plugged in directly to tv or anything between it? I have xfinity into oppo 203 into 900e and wondering if I should do 720 or 1080 and if I should let oppo upscale or let Sony upscale.


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Has anyone figured out how to make it so the USB ports stay powered down while the TV is off?

I really want to use a USB port to power bias lighting, but the ports keep powering on intermittently while the TV is off. It drives me nuts.
We are still waiting on a fix from Sony about this. I was told on Monday by Sony that they are aware of the issue and are releasing an update sometime this month.
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roku ultra does youtube HDR

my xbr x850c shows Hdr on picture settings screen on most of the HDR youtube videos
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We are still waiting on a fix from Sony about this. I was told on Monday by Sony that they are aware of the issue and are releasing an update sometime this month.
I would take that with a huge grain of salt. This has been an issue with Sony for a few model runs now.
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I would take that with a huge grain of salt. This has been an issue with Sony for a few model runs now.
So I've heard. Any Noone has figured out what to shut off to make it stop? I wonder if deleting my Gmail account would work.
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So now most hdr YouTube videos are not working through roku ultra anymore?


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So you recommend setting at 720p for xfinity and not 1080p

Do you have it plugged in directly to tv or anything between it? I have xfinity into oppo 203 into 900e and wondering if I should do 720 or 1080 and if I should let oppo upscale or let Sony upscale.


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A little perspective before I provide my recommendations. In the old world - - TV's (1080p) did not do a great job of upscaling, IMHO. Therefore, I used the upscaler in my Pioneer and Denon AVR. Fast forward to the 4K/HDR world - - and things have changed. At least for upscaling capability of the 900E the quality of the upscaling is far superior to any DVR, Bluray Player or STB. You certainly can try different settings to see what you prefer. That being said, here are my suggestions:

1. Set the Xfinity STB at 720p. Do not let the STB do any processing - - leave that up to the stellar Sony 900E.
2. Connect directly (not through your OPPO 203) to your TV. I just think that too many cooks in the kitchen (upscaling) ruins the stew.

By all means - - experiment. But I believe you will get the best picture with these recommendations by letting the Sony 900E do the heavy "upscaling" lifting.

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The source content has a lot to do with what your TV reproduces, and not all sources are the same, regardless of resolution.

Also, do you mean dirty screen effect rather than screen door effect? Either way, doesn't seem like either of those things would be affected by the signal. Those seem like panel-specific traits.
What is "dirty screen effect" and how is it different than screen door effect. Let's make sure I'm describing the distortions properly.
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I keep my DVR Cable box (Spectrum) at 720p and 1080i and I don't see the problems mentioned.
Are you saying that you allow your cable box to downconvert all your 1080i native channels and output them at 720p to your TV?
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I might be one of the few that agree with this statement. Well....to a point. I'm a big hockey fan and just bought the 65" 900E. I've noticed that the set can't keep up with the puck. It seems very "stuttery". Didn't have that issue on an older 46" XBR it replaced. The picture looks alright, it just can't keep up with the pace of live sports. Watching basketball as I type and it's even lagging a little on that. Cable box is Comcast/Xfinity X1 set to 1080p60

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For those considering a purchase who are big into live sports in the USA I think it's important to call out that the 900E is a major downgrade from a 1080p panel when it comes to broadcast content that is 720p. Whether the upscaling is handled by the 900E or by your DVR, it seems there simply are too many pixels for the TV to recreate and the blocking, smearing, screen-dooring, etc. are more visible than you're used to.

In the US, that means networks like FOX, ABC, Big 10, FS1, MLB, ESPN, ESPN2, Disney Channel, National Geographic, and others carried by your local cable or satellite provider are going to look worse on your brand new Sony 4K TV than they did on a comparable 1080p TV.

The 1080i broadcasts will look stellar, they'll be a major step forward in clarity, brightness, and color. But if you are a fan of NFL football or MLB baseball, be prepared that about half the games you'll watch are going to look a little crappy.
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I disagree with your entire premise.
Well there are facts and there are premises.

The fact is on my Verizon FiOS DVR set to native mode, 720p channels look degraded and 1080i native channels look terrific.

The premise– that 720p is more challenging for Sony to upscale due to its lesser amount of pixels, seems pretty logical to me.
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Are you saying that you allow your cable box to downconvert all your 1080i native channels and output them at 720p to your TV?
No, because I have these 2 resolutions selected, the cable box will output the channel at their native HD resolutions (no downconverting by the box) and the TV does all the upconverting. The downfall to choosing both comes when switching between 720p and 1080i channels there will be a delay before the output shows on the screen since the box is switching its internal output between the two. By choosing only one resolution, either 720p (which Rico has done) or 1080i, there is no delay when flipping through channels with different native resolution.

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