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I was made aware in the anticipation thread that not only a Sony mount works with this TV (I was aware of that fact ) but using the Sony I was able to make it a 0-gap flush mount as planned due to the small footprint..
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I got my 940D in October- wish I would have waited. I do have a very good panel but I think I will miss DV and the extra zones. I would have to wait a while as I paid $4k for mine and would not pay over $4500 for a TV. Probably Oct. 2017 to get price close to $4500.

But then the 2018's will probably get HDMI 2.1 which should stop the HDMI merry go round for a while.

Changes and improvements never stop.
If I were you, I wouldn't have any regrets. You got a great price and a great TV. Next year will come something besting the x940E and the year after another model will best that model etc. So, hang on to your 940D for a couple of years and upgrade again thereafter, and your new model will be superior to the current models (and so on). Moral of the story, enjoy what you have. ;-)
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Samsung will be no competetion for X940E, Sony has leap frogged their tech again. Sony has just been ahead since they put out their first tv with triluminos. The one that really showed what can be done with LCD was the X950B which received TV of the year award. Long story short the X940D was a downgrade from X940C which is why I am calling the X940E a true successor to X940C and let me tell you the X940C was very nice upgrade from my X850C. I can't wait to see what this X940E can do in person. Only 2 tvs can best this tv Z9D and Sony A1E OLED. I personally dont like OLED tech but if you pair the X1 Extreme to an OLED its guaranteed to be pretty. I dont like LG OLED, I dont find it to be impressive as much as Sony Z9D.
x940C owners like to refer to the x940D as a downgrade, while x940D owners consider it an upgrade... ;-)
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Only we X940C owners know why we say and believe that.
That's ok though I don't expect people to understand who have compared both sets side by side in tests.

X940D is a great set but just not as good as X940C. It goes the same way X940C, X940D and X940E are great sets but not nearly as good as Z9D. There will always be a higher branch and there is nothing wrong with that.

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Just made arrangements for my delivery tomorrow.
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Samsung will be no competetion for X940E, Sony has leap frogged their tech again. Sony has just been ahead since they put out their first tv with triluminos. The one that really showed what can be done with LCD was the X950B which received TV of the year award. Long story short the X940D was a downgrade from X940C which is why I am calling the X940E a true successor to X940C and let me tell you the X940C was very nice upgrade from my X850C. I can't wait to see what this X940E can do in person. Only 2 tvs can best this tv Z9D and Sony A1E OLED. I personally dont like OLED tech but if you pair the X1 Extreme to an OLED its guaranteed to be pretty. I dont like LG OLED, I dont find it to be impressive as much as Sony Z9D.
I agree but I believe the Z9D has the same input lag issues as the 940D. Also the Z9D's awesome backlighting system takes up a lot of space and makes the unit very thick which is not very aesthetically pleasing for wall hanging. I think the 940E is a good compromise of PQ and sexiness!
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What input lag 25ms is great and best in the industry for a 4K unit.

You are one of those guys that want everything thinner. Dude my tv is thin enough what do I get out of it, if it was as flush to the wall as possible? Bragging rights, the only thing that matters to me is Size Diagonally and Picture Quality. Everything else is a plus and if you gave me a choice I would take the Z9D over 940E any day of the week. Most of my viewing will be from the front not the sides. Again everyone really does have preference but I am more than ok if a tv has to be chubbier to get better picture.

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I agree but I believe the Z9D has the same input lag issues as the 940D. Also the Z9D's awesome backlighting system takes up a lot of space and makes the unit very thick which is not very aesthetically pleasing for wall hanging. I think the 940E is a good compromise of PQ and sexiness!
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What input lag 25ms is great and best in the industry for a 4K unit.

You are one of those guys that want everything thinner. Dude my tv is thin enough what do I get out of it, if it was as flush to the wall as possible? Bragging rights, the only thing that matters to me is Size Diagonally and Picture Quality. Everything else is a plus and if you gave me a choice I would take the Z9D over 940E any day of the week. Most of my viewing will be from the front not the sides. Again everyone really does have preference but I am more than ok if a tv has to be chubbier to get better picture.

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I think of it this way - either of them are thinner than my old 2008 Samsung 67" LED DLP!
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Yay I just got confirmation my set gets delivered tomorrow! So stoked and I need to get home and spend one last night with my X940C :-/

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I think of it this way - either of them are thinner than my old 2008 Samsung 67" LED DLP!

I guess everyone has already forgotten about the CRT sets, like the 26" trinitron. This was the best set in it's day.
So if the TV is 1-3/4" or 1-5/16" thick, just remember the CRT.
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Just made arrangements for my delivery tomorrow.
I've got a late morning delivery setup for tomorrow myself, moving up from a 52" 2009 Samsung.

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Yay shipping buddies!

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Yay shipping buddies!

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Wow! No kidding, $6000 for your TV to be manhandled on a dolly. Mine was packaged on a pallet in a upright only position, I would have cringed if I saw that! He seemed more frustrated with the announcement and availability of the TV though, I regularly checked a handful of stores online to glean any info I could on a release date.
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Wow! No kidding, $6000 for your TV to be manhandled on a dolly. Mine was packaged on a pallet in a upright only position, I would have cringed if I saw that! He seemed more frustrated with the announcement and availability of the TV though, I regularly checked a handful of stores online to glean any info I could on a release date.
The key difference between Sony (and other TV manufacturers for that matter) and Apple is that Apple controls the scheduling of their events, so they can line up the release of their products and then schedule the event when they know everything is ready so that they can end with the big 'and they'll be available for $xxx starting tomorrow!'.

With CES being a fixed January event where all of the home electronics companies show off their stuff they don't have that luxury, the event is when the event is, regardless of how it lines up with their own internal development cycles.

It would certainly be nice if they came out quicker, but I'm OK with a few months' wait if it means they come out right. Nothing's worse than plunking down your cash for the next big thing and finding out when you get it that the firmware is still a mess and it doesn't support half of the features you wanted when you bought it (and all of the TV makers have been guilty of doing that as well, especially with HDR capability over the past couple of years).
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Wow! No kidding, $6000 for your TV to be manhandled on a dolly. Mine was packaged on a pallet in a upright only position, I would have cringed if I saw that! He seemed more frustrated with the announcement and availability of the TV though, I regularly checked a handful of stores online to glean any info I could on a release date.
Who delivered his tv because I dont want those 2 delivering mine. I would have a panic attack and seriously dont they train these guys. The box only says it should not be carried in any other position or you will risk damaging the unit.

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I never had a sony....always Samsung. I think I'm making the jump with this set though....or maybe the samaung q7...who knows. Ill wait a bit.
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Wait nevermind, he says he bought through Magnolia which means they probably used CoPilot (terrible company). They sent 1 man to deliver my X940C which weighs 125 lbs with packaging I believe its 150 lbs. Luckily I was there and able to help him.

This time around my order is being sent through CEVA Logistics and according to the order I get a 2 man team with White Glove delivery! So stoked as you can see I don't get off these threads because I want it to be tomorrow already. You would swear I was 8 years old on Christmas eve ;-p

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I agree but I believe the Z9D has the same input lag issues as the 940D. Also the Z9D's awesome backlighting system takes up a lot of space and makes the unit very thick which is not very aesthetically pleasing for wall hanging. I think the 940E is a good compromise of PQ and sexiness!
I rather have a thicker tv with no banding and clouding than the crap we are having now. You sometimes need to go trough 4 tv's to get one that is acceptable. My X8505C has a lot of banding and is marked as defective. I Got a replacement offered but that one was worse.

If they did not want to make them so thin it would be more easy to get a good light defuser in there to spread the light.
I can understand you like thin better. For me i sit right in front of the TV and its on a wall mount that can turn if i go sit in a other corner. I pull it off the wall as much as possible to get it closer and make it look bigger. So for me thickness is not that much of a issues. IF you wall mount it on a fixed spot i can understand your wish. In that situation the new LG W7 moddels are the best with only 4mm thickness.
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I was made aware in the anticipation thread that not only a Sony mount works with this TV (I was aware of that fact ) but using the Sony I was able to make it a 0-gap flush mount as planned due to the small footprint..
Are you using SU-WL810 or SU-WL830 ?
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Are you using SU-WL810 or SU-WL830 ?
WL830, its a 2 part mount but I didn't use the large brace mount for studs, I just nailed in 2x10 backing and the extension part of the mount straight to the studs so that it is recessed in the drywall.


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I rather have a thicker tv with no banding and clouding than the crap we are having now. You sometimes need to go trough 4 tv's to get one that is acceptable. My X8505C has a lot of banding and is marked as defective. I Got a replacement offered but that one was worse.

If they did not want to make them so thin it would be more easy to get a good light defuser in there to spread the light.
I can understand you like thin better. For me i sit right in front of the TV and its on a wall mount that can turn if i go sit in a other corner. I pull it off the wall as much as possible to get it closer and make it look bigger. So for me thickness is not that much of a issues. IF you wall mount it on a fixed spot i can understand your wish. In that situation the new LG W7 moddels are the best with only 4mm thickness.
I wasn't looking for an ultra thin TV, I know the PQ will suffer greatly to make them thin, which is why the 940E is a good compromise for me. Its still is just over 2" thick which is middle of the road, but I have not seen any PQ issues with the 940 in a range of content..No banding, clouding, bleeding, blooming..nada. Im very amazed, I have never paid more than $2500 so this is a huge jump for me, but blacks are amazing, whites are amazing, colors are amazing, I love it! I wonder when we will start seeing professional reviews on the 940e, its out there now.
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WL830, its a 2 part mount but I didn't use the large brace mount for studs, I just nailed in 2x10 backing and the extension part of the mount straight to the studs so that it is recessed in the drywall.
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You should have seen the banding, clouding, countless other defects 940D and even worse 930D with bendgate!

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You should have seen the banding, clouding, countless other defects 940D and even worse 930D with bendgate!

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You make it sound like ALL 940D displays have defects. You need to be called out on this for I've had my 940D since June and other than some occasional light-bleeding (which is NOT a defect) I haven't experienced any banding, clouding, trailing, horizontal lines, etc. If you visit the 940D thread you will see that there are MANY members, like me, that are more than satisfied with their display. Again, you need to be careful when you make such a dogmatic post. It is misleading and disingenuous.

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You make it sound like ALL 940D displays have defects. You need to be called out on this for I've had my 940D since June and other than some occasional light-bleeding (which is NOT a defect) I haven't experienced any banding, clouding, trailing, horizontal lines, etc. If you visit the 940D thread you will see that there are MANY members, like me, that are more than satisfied with their display. Again, you need to be careful when you make such a dogmatic post. It is misleading and disingenuous.
Agreed. There are unfortunately a sad number of non-owners on these forums who love to blow issues out of proportion or context. Especially non-owners who own prior models
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You make it sound like ALL 940D displays have defects. You need to be called out on this for I've had my 940D since June and other than some occasional light-bleeding (which is NOT a defect) I haven't experienced any banding, clouding, trailing, horizontal lines, etc. If you visit the 940D thread you will see that there are MANY members, like me, that are more than satisfied with their display. Again, you need to be careful when you make such a dogmatic post. It is misleading and disingenuous.
Just because you didnt get a defective unit doesnt mean it wasn't an issue or didn't exist. All models have some issue or defect coming off the production line but the cost cutting that Sony implemented last year was obvious. I just pointed out what was obvious and truthful. Bendgate really did happen and Sony seemed to be ok with shipping units as they were. Hell I will give you a good example I bought a Note 7 last year and I went through 3 of them in 2 months. 1st one had a panel defect, 2nd was a recall and last was second recall. I didnt have a single problem with overheating or exploding,etc. But to say there wasn't a design flaw is ludicrous, the phones did in fact blow up on many occasions.

My point in all of this is even when there is a design flaw you will still get good product to market but defects will stand out in higher numbers than usual. Again congratulations that you didnt have a defective unit, I am sure most had wonderful looking 940D's but to act like there wasn't higher than usual amount of defects is also farfetched. Just to be clear I dont get anything from bashing your 940D. I was in the market for a tv and I happened to be purchasing around the time the 940D was launching. I compared 940c and 940d did some tests in store via my little usb stick and noticed that 940D wasnt up to par. The 940D I saw had terrible banding and a bright spot, went to another store they no longer had the C so I was only able to see the D but this set was worse than the first set I saw. I decided I would take my chances on 940C as I believed it provided a better picture and I had no regrets when my set showed up crystal clear picture. I saw another 940D at another store that didnt have banding but had bright spots in corner of tv. I read a lot of the bendgate issues and for me that was more than enough to see that what I had witnessed was not up to par for my taste. Everyone has different tastes or opinions and I also happen to be very specific in what I like. Simply put what I didnt like was the quality of tv Sony put out in 2016 models. In my opinion they chased the customer who wants slimmer and lighter tvs. With that went the quality of sets they produced, this year they seem to have compromised somewhere in between with better build and a little more weight. Obviously Sony saw something they didnt like either. Anyways to each his own and I understand where you guys are coming from but also understand my point of view. No where did I say all 940D's were defective, but if you ask someone about a Note 7. They will presumably ask you mean the exploding phone? Reputation is all one has.
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I never implied that there were no defective sets; I was simply addressing your dogmatic statement that SEEMED to imply that ALL 940D displays had defects.

Even your last post is highly critical and brands the 940D as "inferior" to the 940C and other displays. Were you aware of the fact that the 940D came in SECOND PLACE at the Flat Panel Shootout next to the LG OLED? It beat out the Samsung and Vizio (their Reference Series) LCDs by quite a bit.
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x940C owners like to refer to the x940D as a downgrade, while x940D owners consider it an upgrade... ;-)
x940d can't be called an upgrade since

1. lesser zones
2. lesser nits
3. losing side speakers (this could go either way, aesthetically), it looks smaller (x940c is 79" wide)
4. less premium feel/build
5. it does not have newer technology

Don't get me wrong, picture wise, they are about the same. Sony made 940D much more affordable at release by removing speakers, zones and etc.(940C was like $9000).

Now 940E does have a better X1 Extreme processor with the promised new tech inside. Based on spec it should be better than 940c or 940d but inferior to the ZD9. Seeing the ZD9 in person, to me it is about 10% better than C or D with better brights and blacks but price jump is more than 50%. I'd rather wait until second gen Sony OLED next year for the upgrade. And once I seen a 75", no way I am going back to 65", you lose too much wow factor.
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Just because you didnt get a defective unit doesnt mean it wasn't an issue or didn't exist. All models have some issue or defect coming off the production line but the cost cutting that Sony implemented last year was obvious.
You are right there are issues with every TV made. Everyone is cutting costs except probably The Mclarain Car company....lol.
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x940d can't be called an upgrade since

1. lesser zones
2. lesser nits
3. losing side speakers (this could go either way, aesthetically), it looks smaller (x940c is 79" wide)
4. less premium feel/build
5. it does not have newer technology

Don't get me wrong, picture wise, they are about the same. Sony made 940D much more affordable at release by removing speakers, zones and etc.(940C was like $9000).

Now 940E does have a better X1 Extreme processor with the promised new tech inside. Based on spec it should be better than 940c or 940d but inferior to the ZD9. Seeing the ZD9 in person, to me it is about 10% better than C or D with better brights and blacks but price jump is more than 50%. I'd rather wait until second gen Sony OLED next year for the upgrade. And once I seen a 75", no way I am going back to 65", you lose too much wow factor.
Trust me, this thread will be filled with people that have issues with the 940e as will the next thread of the 940f when people are saying the 940e wasn't an upgrade to the d. LOL...The saga continues. They keep playing with LED tech to get it brighter and brighter for HDR and the brighter you get with an LED the more issues you will always have when it's a dark room. It's simply a limitation of the Tech. There is a thread for every high end set released and those threads are flooded with issues as well.
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