Originally Posted by DrJayDub
For me, the question I would ask of you Imagic, is if you would purchase this tv over an OLED or the Z9D and replace your Samsung plasma with it? DNice saying he would be willing to replace his Kuro plasmas with the new LG C7 OLED carried a lot of weight with me. Just curious if you would give the Q9 a similar recommendation?
OK let's sort through this somewhat complex question/answer.
First things first... I junked the F8500 and don't wish to ever see a plasma again in my life. 1080P with a visible pixel grid? No thanks. Image retention? No thanks. ABL? Hope I never see that acronym again. Limited brightness and no HDR? I'll pass. And the flickering! Hey, I know some folks are not sensitive but blech. Yeah I put up with it because it could make a Blu-ray look great. The F8500 was super accurate and had great uniformity and motion rendering but... it's gone.
OK the Q9 issue is no different than the F8500 issue was. No, I would not buy it now, at launch MSRP. But, that's true for any premium TV. Right now, the Z9D is the TV I'd buy with my money. But as some have pointed out, it debuted somewhat higher than its current price.
Remember LG's first 55" OLED? $15,000 when it debuted, literally $2000 at Micro-Center a year later. I don't think we'll ever see prices come down quite that vertiginously again anytime soon, but if the Q9F becomes available for less, as is always the case with Samsung, then the equation might be different. Ireally do have to weigh the weakness vs. OLED in displaying backs vs. what a beast the Q9F is when it comes to rendering vibrant color and vivid highlights. And not just specular stuff, but large areas of bright and vibrant color.
So far the Q9F's presentation has been excellent. What I can say is I have no desire to look at the KS9800 again?seriously. But... if you factor price then hey, the KS9800 is also a great choice. Really does depend on your wallett and also your usage. I plan video games and use TVs as giant PC monitors, so for me that makes OLED less desirable. The plasma was a truly terrible PC monitor, lol. But I did use it for color grading because again, it was crazy accurate. But, so is the Q9F?I would not hesitate to master video with it.
But unless/until I can get a Z9D to compare to directly, I can't make that specific value judgment vs. Q9D. And I do not expect this MSRP on the Q9F to last long. As for OLED, while I LOVE the deep blacks, here's the reality: I'm gonna stick with front projection to get my cinematic kicks.
I just put a Sony VPL-VW365 in my upstairs home theater/studio room and it blows away TVs, period. Like, I never give it a second thought. So, for me, it's gonna be an LCD for the situations where I do watch/use a TV like PS4 HDR gaming.
knows what he's talking about, no question. Rock star of the flat-panel world.
Its a shame samsung only offers their "flagship" sets at 65 inches. Some of us live in small living room spaces, a 55 ks9800 FLAT screen I would buy im a heartbeat for the prices the q7 55 is going for right now.. wasnt to impressed with it, stuck it back in the box amazon shipped it to me in within 4 hours.