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Have you guys messed around with all of the settings? Looks like you can only get into everything via the Roku remote app. I do remember at least 1 review talking about changing the local dimming from high to medium and vice versa for certain movies. Was assuming it needed changing for certain action films or even darker movies. Back light bleed isn't something I wanna suffer through. Hoping it's something with the settings and perhaps even a firmware update will fix it soon.
Yes I have messed around with settings, you can set the dimming to high and it really does not change the light bleed. With this being said while watching content the light bleed is almost non existent. So if you want to look at a sold black screen you will see some but otherwise I think it will be fine.

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Damn.

How are the blacks on yours? Compared to my ks8500, overall contrast and black uniformity seems worst.. You have one to compare to as well lol
Blacks are very impressing for a 600.00 set. The Roku interface is great and menu for setup is good also. I am not however able to find Directv Now apk for some reason and I have it on my other Roku boxes here.

I watched Battleship last night off vudu and it looked very good without me doing to many color tweaks. I also streamed a little of Superman vs Batman in UHD on Vudu and the Dolby Vision settings kicked in.

I will post more thoughts and update the main topic here with my findings as I spend a little more time with the set.
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Yes I have messed around with settings, you can set the dimming to high and it really does not change the light bleed. With this being said while watching content the light bleed is almost non existent. So if you want to look at a sold black screen you will see some but otherwise I think it will be fine.



Blacks are very impressing for a 600.00 set. The Roku interface is great and menu for setup is good also. I am not however able to find Directv Now apk for some reason and I have it on my other Roku boxes here.

I watched Battleship last night off vudu and it looked very good without me doing to many color tweaks. I also streamed a little of Superman vs Batman in UHD on Vudu and the Dolby Vision settings kicked in.

I will post more thoughts and update the main topic here with my findings as I spend a little more time with the set.
I was under the impression that the UHD movies on Vudu are indeed 4k but not necessarily DV HDR? I don't see it mentioned in the information. Can you post a screenshot of the DV being enabled?

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I was under the impression that the UHD movies on Vudu are indeed 4k but not necessarily DV HDR? I don't see it mentioned in the information. Can you post a screenshot of the DV being enabled?

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Sure but it will be later this evening before I get home. When playing the UHD material I have on Vudu if I go into picture settings it automatically had changed to I think what was called DV settings with Dolby symbol. Maybe someone else can reply on this before I get home this evening for you.
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Sure but it will be later this evening before I get home. When playing the UHD material I have on Vudu if I go into picture settings it automatically had changed to I think what was called DV settings with Dolby symbol. Maybe someone else can reply on this before I get home this evening for you.
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I was under the impression that the UHD movies on Vudu are indeed 4k but not necessarily DV HDR? I don't see it mentioned in the information. Can you post a screenshot of the DV being enabled?

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All Vudu UHD movies are DV. You just need the correct hardware to play them. So far only the vudu player in the Vizio and LG TVs have been able to play DV. No external player's vudu app can pass it yet (seems the chromecast ultra will be supporting it soon). The TCL P series vudu app should hopefully play DV just like the LG and Vizio TVs.
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So far so good. I received my new toy before noon and couldn't wait to set it up. I am one of the people reporting light bleed on at least one corner of the set. It still seems to be a great TV. I will be replacing a very old, non HD, Panasonic plasma with this set in my family room. I also have an 6 year old Sony LCD and a Panasonic ST60 Plasma. I had originally intended to buy a B7/C7 OLED once the prices came down. That was until I started reading all of the hype on this TV. I decided that at this price point I would give it a try.

My initial impression of this set is very favorable with the exception of the light bleed I noted earlier. I will need to wait until I permanently mount it in it's new home and let some of the wow factor to fade before writing a detailed review. I do love the deep blacks available on my ST60 and that is what I am looking for with this TV. The Roku functionality is very easy to use. I am hoping that this ease of use will allow me to ween my family from cable and start streaming all of our content. This TV will eventually be mounted above a fireplace and will not have room for a full HT sound system. Does anyone have any recommendations on a soundbar to complement the video performance of this display? It will be tough because I will hate to spend the same or more for the audio system than I did for the video portion.

Somehow I turned on the automatic text reader function for the GUI menus. I would rather read them for myself. I'm sure there is a setting for it somewhere.
in the picture settings click on accessibility and you can turn on/off audio guide (if that's the problem).
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My shipment finally got updated to delivery today too!

For calibration of colors, are you guys just eye-balling it right now? My last tv was a 1080p 60" Vizio that I used the THX tune-up app on my iPhone for. It worked well enough for me to be happy, but I'm not sure if it'll work for 4k HDR or not. How are you guys going about it?

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I missed the in stock ordering by a few minutes last night. Originally when I started my process of purchasing it there were 3 in stock, but I took too long making up my mind and looking at more articles that they were gone by the time I went for it. Currently it says Shipping in 2-3 months. Hoping it is sooner but that is still fine with me as it should come before Forza 7 and Xbox One X .

Looking forward to more of you posting info on yours while I wait .

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"We have been contacted by the shipper regarding order #114-6225008-8028xxx and it appears that the package was damaged in transit. We're sorry for any inconvenience this causes."

I quickly jumped to my Amazon order page and discovered it was only a book order. Calm ensued. :-)

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Mine will be here Friday, but the Denon receiver I ordered (AVR-S530BT) doesn't pass Dolby vision. Trying to decide if it's worth putting up more cash to get a Dolby vision receiver. Planning on doing everything through the Roku interface, and don't have a single Dolby vision enabled HDMI device. Anyone else in the new receiver camp deciding on this?
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Received mine and haven't messed around with settings much, but i dont have any light bleeding on black screens and I personally think it looks great.
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Soap Opera Effect

How's the soap opera effect? I saw somewhere you can't change the motion settings, and this makes me nervous. Can't stand the soap opera look.
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How's the soap opera effect? I saw somewhere you can't change the motion settings, and this makes me nervous. Can't stand the soap opera look.
I grabbed suits in 4k and I personally dont see the SOE. I do remember having to tweak my samsung years ago to turn that off, as it was just WEIRD.
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a couple of questions regarding aesthetics, hard to tell from the stock images...

1. is the frame/bezel plastic or chrome, is it flat or glossy, i.e. is it highly reflective?
2. is the screen flat or is it highly reflective when off or on?
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Mine will be here Friday, but the Denon receiver I ordered (AVR-S530BT) doesn't pass Dolby vision. Trying to decide if it's worth putting up more cash to get a Dolby vision receiver. Planning on doing everything through the Roku interface, and don't have a single Dolby vision enabled HDMI device. Anyone else in the new receiver camp deciding on this?
In my view, it will be worth buying an HDR compatible receiver eventually, but it's not necessary now. HDR (whether 10, 10+, DV, or HLG) is, by all accounts, a truly noticeable step forward in viewing. With all those formats, though, it may take a while to resolve the future of HDR. I just bought a Denon x4300h, which does 10 and will do DV after a firmware update that won't happen until late in the year or even early 2018. But will it ever do 10+ or HLG? I don't know. My old AVR didn't pass through 4K, though, otherwise I would have waited. If you can wait until the Fall, the 2017 receivers that already do DV will be discounted and we may know more in terms of the format war. I think that's a good strategy. Again, this is just my view; others will feel differently.

Update: Just did a little searching and the 2017 Denons (the x400 series) and the 2016s (the x300 series) will get HLG via firmware when they get DV. As for HDR 10+, neither will get it as it requires HDMI 2.1 which probably won't be out until the 2018 AVRs appear. It's always like this. Wait until you can't stand it anymore, then leap in joyously!

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Received mine and haven't messed around with settings much, but i dont have any light bleeding on black screens and I personally think it looks great.
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How's the soap opera effect? I saw somewhere you can't change the motion settings, and this makes me nervous. Can't stand the soap opera look.
SOE is a direct result from HAVING AND USING motion interpolation settings.. this nor ANY OTHER TV without these settings has or will ever have SOE
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So I got mine and I am a little disappointed. There was quite a noticeable amount of back light bleed in some corners of the screen and the contrast overall didn't seem much better than my old ks8500 even with fald on. Everything else was great, tv came well packaged, low input lag feels great as well, easy set up etc.

I'm sure the backlight bleed is not common and depending on everyone else's reviews I will probably do an exchange.

Note that the BB is not as bad as in the pictures, my phone "enhanced" it for some reason but it was still noticeable.
If my panel looks like the picture, or is noticeable while viewing regular content, I'll be returning it.
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In my view, it will be worth buying an HDR compatible receiver eventually, but it's not necessary now. HDR (whether 10, 10+, DV, or HLG) is, by all accounts, a truly noticeable step forward in viewing. With all those formats, though, it may take a while to resolve the future of HDR. I just bought a Denon x4300h, which does 10 and will do DV after a firmware update that won't happen until late in the year or even early 2018. But will it ever do 10+ or HLG? I don't know. My old AVR didn't pass through 4K, though, otherwise I would have waited. If you can wait until the Fall, the 2017 receivers that already do DV will be discounted and we may know more in terms of the format war. I think that's a good strategy. Again, this is just my view; others will feel differently.
Yeah, definitely want an HDR compatible receiver. The Denon I ordered only does HDR 10. Looking at this Yamaha that does HDR 10 and dolby vision. Since the TCL does dolby vision, be nice to have a receiver that supports it. Looking at this yamaha. Running a simple speaker setup, don't need anything fancy.

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a couple of questions regarding aesthetics, hard to tell from the stock images...

1. is the frame/bezel plastic or chrome, is it flat or glossy, i.e. is it highly reflective?
2. is the screen flat or is it highly reflective when off or on?
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bezel is plastic, black with a dark chrome on side. glossy.
screen is a matte, leaning slightly glossy, definitely reflects some but not noticeable while watching tv in the room i have it in. It could be more so with sunlight shining on it thought, its got some sheen.
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If my panel looks like the picture, or is noticeable while viewing regular content, I'll be returning it.
nothing like that pic on mine. and when it goes full black between cut scenes, it looks like the TV is off. OLED like in that regard
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Have you guys messed around with all of the settings? Looks like you can only get into everything via the Roku remote app. I do remember at least 1 review talking about changing the local dimming from high to medium and vice versa for certain movies. Was assuming it needed changing for certain action films or even darker movies. Back light bleed isn't something I wanna suffer through. Hoping it's something with the settings and perhaps even a firmware update will fix it soon.
Here is what you can do with the Roku app in terms of advanced settings and calibration:

https://support.roku.com/article/217...-your-roku-tv-

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SOE is a direct result from HAVING AND USING motion interpolation settings.. this nor ANY OTHER TV without these settings has or will ever have SOE

Just because there isn't a way for us to adjust those settings doesn't mean that SOE doesn't happen. I remember a panel that had that problem, and people complained about no way to turn it off.

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Got my set and hooked it up about an hour ago.

First thoughts are very impressive. Caveat is I've never owned a 4k tv before, previous one is a 1080p 60" Vizio.

I watched a bit of House of Cards among other things, mainly because I just watched it in 1080p two nights ago.

Contrast and blacks are very good. Colors really do pop a lot and the blacks really match the bars at top and bottom. Everything's very clear and I haven't noticed any (or at least noticeable to my eye) light bleed in any corner.

I have been watching in a somewhat bright room that has a window, but the settings on the TCL itself are pretty decent for calibration for a great view.

Set up was very easy. It walked you through everything including detecting attached devices like PS4 and antenna.

I can't wait to game on it, my PS4 Pro arrives tomorrow. Setting game mode was easy on my existing PS4 connection. Settings do seem to hold between inputs which is very nice.

The 4K spotlight channel is pretty cool. A nice hub in a Netflix-like arrangement for all 4K, HDR, UHD, etc named content.

Only negatives for me so far are the reflections. In a decently bright room, reflections are pretty intense on the full blacks. To be expected I guess with the very dark blacks.

I'll continue playing with colors on each input, chekcing out VUDU's movie offerings, and check the input lag for Destiny in particular.

So far though, this is money damn well spent.
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Just because there isn't a way for us to adjust those settings doesn't mean that SOE doesn't happen. I remember a panel that had that problem, and people complained about no way to turn it off.
you may want to research your information a little further.. there MAY have been a set (s) in the past that had SOE WITHOUT motion settings .. but there aren't any within the last few years...
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does it do 5.1 audio pass through?
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bezel is plastic, black with a dark chrome on side. glossy.
screen is a matte, leaning slightly glossy, definitely reflects some but not noticeable while watching tv in the room i have it in. It could be more so with sunlight shining on it thought, its got some sheen.
thanks, very helpful... my tv will be installed in a commercial environment, lots of french doors and sunlight... reflections from hdtv sets have always been a big issue for my setup in the past, from the shiny, high-gloss, art deco-like, black bezels hdtv manufacturers seem to love, to the screen itself... fortunately i've been able to eliminate much of this by "hacking" my hdtvs... for example, with my samsung ln-t4669f, i spray painted the bezel flat black which made a huge difference, the screen was already very non-reflective so it wasn't an issue... with a rear projection set i removed the protective screen which exposed a flat matte screen underneath that had zero reflection, the image quality "popped" as a result... does the tcl appear to have a protective screen that's removable?
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Mine will be here Friday, but the Denon receiver I ordered (AVR-S530BT) doesn't pass Dolby vision. Trying to decide if it's worth putting up more cash to get a Dolby vision receiver. Planning on doing everything through the Roku interface, and don't have a single Dolby vision enabled HDMI device. Anyone else in the new receiver camp deciding on this?
One more thing, nathan118: We can't talk price here, but if you're even reasonably near a Fry's store, pm me for advice on getting a Denon that will pass DV.

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Just because there isn't a way for us to adjust those settings doesn't mean that SOE doesn't happen. I remember a panel that had that problem, and people complained about no way to turn it off.
According to the Amazon Q&A, it does have interpolation and TCL claims the TV is just smart enough to use it effectively and not cause SOE--and there's no way to turn this off. That could be a big distraction, for me, personally.
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According to the Amazon Q&A, it does have interpolation and TCL claims the TV is just smart enough to use it effectively and not cause SOE--and there's no way to turn this off. That could be a big distraction, for me, personally.
FWIW, I haven't noticed the SOE after flipping through Antenna, Netflix, Amazon, any 4k content or other apps.

One interesting note unrelated to SOE, is that even individual apps appear to remember their picture settings. Put FSGo to Sports and it'll remember anytime you goto the app... put Netflix in Movie mode and it'll remember.

Also the picture settings options change when you're viewing HDR content. You get specific HDR setting options, essentially allowing you to confirm you're watching HDR content.
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