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Is 8K Around the Corner?

A recent article claims that 8K is closer than you think. That may be true for LCD TVs, but content has a much longer way to go.

http://www.avsforum.com/8k-around-corner/

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Maybe this is harsh, but I find it NOT surprising at all that Samsung will take the lead as Chief Charlatan for this effort.

I used to appreciate Samsung TVs. But beginning with the 2016 models, Samsung jumped the shark with its price/quality/value proposition and began its campaign of outright deception in efforts to maintain its spot atop the high-end TV market after it was somewhat blindsided by LG's OLED success after their own OLED failures (and claims OLED "couldn't be done" in an economically viable way). Rather than correct itself and legitimately compete by creating a better product, Samsung doubled down in 2017 with the outright fraudulent 'QLED' branding--again trying to deceive consumers into thinking it was bringing to market early the "real" QLED technology that many were excited to hear about, but wasn't expected for many more years (and, of course, that's still the case). The fact their QLED models have been a massive flop brings a smile to my face. But it appears they wish to prove one more time that they've learned NOTHING and now will attempt further chicanery with 8K. How about making a better quality TV that actually has a price/value proposition worth getting excited about instead of simply overcharging for technology easily found in other brand's models at far more price competitive price points? I have nothing against Samsung TVs--it's their prices for those TVs. They're ridiculous! And their justifications are just as preposterous.

I suppose pushing the envelope with technology (even if it doesn't really add anything just yet) isn't a bad thing. But Samsung's dishonesty about the "value" of the "new" technology (in quotes because it's not always really new--see QLED) in recent years has been off putting. And I'm glad the market has come around and begun to "punish" those missteps.
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HDMI 2.1 paves the way for it to happen now and HDR is confusing to consumers, not surprised to see 8K being pushed by TV makers. Anything to force people to upgrade perfectly good working sets.
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"Is 8K Around the Corner?"

How big is that corner?

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Do you think there will be a physical limit given by technology or do we assist a steady increase in resolution?
4K , 8K , 16K....Sooner or later it will have to change the way we view the image maybe the solution of the "magicLeap" society can be the future
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this is madness

In my view transition to 4K was already little too early. around 2014 many people had just switched to HD or were still about to. Blu Ray sales were still slowly growing against the regular DVDs (and the sales of both were falling against streaming). So the HD fromat has just settled in, made itself comfortable and - boom - yet another revolution. Now, when we have just a handful of 4K Blu Rays released, the frustrated Samsung is thinking about 8K? Jesus, people hold your horses. Let the consumers buy their 4K sets and enjoy them for a while. This crazy race is killing the business in my opinion. What would be next? 16K in 2020?
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A recent article claims that 8K is closer than you think. That may be true for LCD TVs, but content has a much longer way to go.

http://www.avsforum.com/8k-around-corner/
Really ?

4k/UHD is still very much a work in progress. Rather than having 8k now or soon, I would much rather have the 4k standards solidify once fully implemented, for the next 5 or 10 years. Hollywood/hardware manufacturers/HDMI ect. should should rather concern them selves with rectifying the remaining shortcomings of current tech (like automatic playback with correct refresh rate, better out of box colour fidelity ect.), than pushing for 8k before the 4k ink is even dry.

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Haven't read the article but I know the Japanese have skipped 4k and already transitioning to 8K.

Of course this is wacky. We still have major sporting events like the NBA finals, NFL games and even some Superbowls broadcast in 720p!

4K is an extreme niche in terms of home video market. 8k? Seriously? As Johnny Rotten said at the end last Sex Pistols concert " Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" Time to upgrade those low rez 4k disks
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Wake me up once 32K is released, anything less is just blurry.
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SS(Samsung&sharp) are trying the same tactics, that was used on Plasma,which had a problem going to 4K. When ink printing OLED hits,it will take the market over,QLED and micro led, need a major break to compete with OLED. The too little,too late saying applies.
Samsung must be having big problems with QLED Manufacturing, to bring out 8K.
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Who Cares?

I have the Flagship Sony of 2015 and I regret spending the money- I'm watching mostly 1080P and 720P on it, and UHD is a gimmick and very unrealistic, even in the demos I've seen where they were trying to justify it.

The zoom used in the picture for this article to sort of justify it is misleading- you can have 16K and still be able to zoom in on a spot small enough to make the picture look pixilated compared to say 32K, that doesn't mean it's lacking. If you're going to sit 10 inches from the screen, even 4K will still look to be smooth enough to fool your eyes.
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Not to mention 10 feet :-)

In reality HDR/rec2020 is a bigger advancement over HD than "more pixels". Even 1080p can look stunning give enough bandwidth. Most of the visible difference between, for instance, Netflix HD and UDH, is not more pixels. Its more data bandwidth, better encoders and HDR.
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Scott hit it right on the head..... The cost to shoot and edit 4K content is getting very very expensive... I am not talking about you new iPhone here, but professional equipment. Then there is the cost to edit, which requires a fairly beefy machine.... Now quadruple that cost for 8K.... it is astronomical!!!

Content creation is not there yet for 8K... sorry guys. They can build all the TVs in the world to be 8K, but if you don't have great content (see above)... what is the point??

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I have the Flagship Sony of 2015 and I regret spending the money- I'm watching mostly 1080P and 720P on it, and UHD is a gimmick and very unrealistic, even in the demos I've seen where they were trying to justify it.

The zoom used in the picture for this article to sort of justify it is misleading- you can have 16K and still be able to zoom in on a spot small enough to make the picture look pixilated compared to say 32K, that doesn't mean it's lacking. If you're going to sit 10 inches from the screen, even 4K will still look to be smooth enough to fool your eyes.
I have the same TV (assuming you mean the Sony 940C) and I don't regret it at all, there's a lot of 4K content out there, and more coming every day. The selection of UHD Blu-Rays is increasing rapidly, Netflix and Amazon are offering the majority of their new content in 4K HDR, and even with 1080p content the upscaling is very nice.

At the same time, I'm cold on the idea of 8K. While 4K can have benefits given a large screen and a relatively close viewing distance (which is my scenario) the only benefits from 8K would be from huge projection screens, and native 4K projectors are just now starting to reach the realm of affordability.

Plus, there's the whole issue of where the content will come from. As you mention, the cable/sat companies aren't even on the 4K bandwagon yet, and they've time and time again shown that they'd rather cram more channels into their pipe than offer higher resolution and fewer channels, and streaming services would likely want to increase their bandwidth costs for a resolution that only a tiny percentage of people could take advantage of.

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For now I can only imagine gaming will benefit from these high resolutions for the foreseeable future.

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Maybe this is harsh, but I find it NOT surprising at all that Samsung will take the lead as Chief Charlatan for this effort.

I used to appreciate Samsung TVs. But beginning with the 2016 models, Samsung jumped the shark with its price/quality/value proposition and began its campaign of outright deception in efforts to maintain its spot atop the high-end TV market after it was somewhat blindsided by LG's OLED success after their own OLED failures (and claims OLED "couldn't be done" in an economically viable way). .
I had a new rooftop antenna installed a week ago, and the (very good) tech installer said that recent vintage Samsung TV's have the worst OTA tuners in them, based on many antenna installs and subsequent tuner signal stability tests. Just another data point re: Samsung quality, relevant to cord cutters.
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Also, to beat that dead 4K horse yet again-

A lot of us believe the biggest/most important improvements in 4K UHD content are WCG, 10-12 bit color(vs 8bit 1080p bluray), BT2020 colorspace, HDR, h265 encoders- not the 4K pixel count.

How will 8K content improve those parameters? 16 bit per R-G-B? Even wider colorspace? Even newer HDR "standards"? Better next gen encoders?
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I have the Flagship Sony of 2015 and I regret spending the money- I'm watching mostly 1080P and 720P on it, and UHD is a gimmick and very unrealistic, even in the demos I've seen where they were trying to justify it.

The zoom used in the picture for this article to sort of justify it is misleading- you can have 16K and still be able to zoom in on a spot small enough to make the picture look pixilated compared to say 32K, that doesn't mean it's lacking. If you're going to sit 10 inches from the screen, even 4K will still look to be smooth enough to fool your eyes.
What? Lol. No, UHD is better than HD. Period.
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It will be YEARS before true 4K projectors <$5K and affordable panels of decent size do 12 bit and all HDR flavors with full 2020 colorspace 100% right.

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Just like 4K TVs play 2K content, 8K TVs will play 4K content and 2K content, so I don't see why people care if the pixel count is off the hook.
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A recent article claims that 8K is closer than you think. That may be true for LCD TVs, but content has a much longer way to go.

http://www.avsforum.com/8k-around-corner/
In reality 4K is for the foreseeable future all that is needed in home viewing. Generally speaking you need a screen 50" and up for it to be a worthwhile investment in the first place unless you sit 5 feet from your tv, I just made that last part up. 4K still need to mature some more, moving to 8K is worthless IMO until we are talking about wall sized screens as more or less common place. And I don't mean AVS common place i mean like your dad common place, tv buyers are just now finally getting into the 50" and larger screens as being more or less normal. Until we are in the 100" to 120" and larger as normal screens 8K won't do any home viewer any good, aside from the fact your getting to the point where you damn well better have 20/20 vision otherwise the jump in resolution is pointless. Where 8K and up could have benefits would be movie theaters and sports stadiums where you are using 25' 30' or 50' screens at that size the jump in resolution would be very beneficial.

Of course there is the flip side to the whole 8K argument as well and that is content. There are no physical media that can currently hold an 8k transfer other than a hard drive, and as far as streaming to get ACTUAL 4K at full resolution with no compression you need a steady 10MBps connection, the 4K your getting through Netflix after the compression to make it reasonably streamable is more akin to full HD as far as visual crispness goes. i have a 4K tv an UHD Blu Ray player and 4K Netflix with a 200 Mbps internet connection, you can tell the difference between the disc and netflix on the same movie. So for 8K streaming your going to need what a steady 30MBps connection (I'll low ball it to account for compression)
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Just like 4K TVs play 2K content, 8K TVs will play 4K content and 2K content, so I don't see why people care if the pixel count is off the hook.
Marketing, public mindshare of what matters, and getting manufacturers to put resources in the right R&D bucket. These three chase each other's tails. I'd rather not pay 15-25% more for something I know adds very little value. It's not THAT far fetched, is it?
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Just like 4K TVs play 2K content, 8K TVs will play 4K content and 2K content, so I don't see why people care if the pixel count is off the hook.
Bc the manufacturers will stop making 4k tvs and force you to over pay for something you don't need or want. Show me where you can buy a 1080p tv with HDR/DV etc. Content is still very lacking and most people just need a good 1080p tv.

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Marketing, public mindshare of what matters, and getting manufacturers to put resources in the right R&D bucket. These three chase each other's tails. I'd rather not pay 15-25% more for something I know adds very little value. It's not THAT far fetched, is it?
Then don't, instead buy a cheaper TV. 8K is sure to drive the cost of 4K TVs down further, so you should welcome its arrival.
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Bc the manufacturers will stop making 4k tvs and force you to over pay for something you don't need or want. Show me where you can buy a 1080p tv with HDR/DV etc. Content is still very lacking and most people just need a good 1080p tv.
Lol, that's capitalism for ya. I happen to like living in a country where luxury products don't merely exist, but are commonly available... and where the opportunities to make money to afford those luxury products also exists.

Anyhow, nobody is forcing anyone to overpay. You overpay by choice. And if you want HDR, you gotta fork over a few extra bucks. But not a lot extra, mind you, with prices that continue to drop. Take for example the 55" TCL I reviewed recently... how much could you possibly save if it was only 1080p (which BTW has obvious pixelation that I don't ever want to see again - RIP 1080p).

Oh well, I guess I'm just not that sympathetic to folks who view TVs strictly through the lens of "paying too much" for it. If saving money is the goal, then just wait for the TV you want to reach the tail end of the annual refresh cycle and buy it on clearance.
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Then don't, instead buy a cheaper TV. 8K is sure to drive the cost of 4K TVs down further, so you should welcome its arrival.
Oh no, I'm not letting you get away that easily. ^_^ There's only so many iterations of a TV a manufacturer will make. Again, I would like more choices with specs that excel in areas that matter to me. (I'm such a selfish dork sometimes. )
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Then don't, instead buy a cheaper TV. 8K is sure to drive the cost of 4K TVs down further, so you should welcome its arrival.
Plus, it will only help usher in the needed higher resolution for VR...
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Oh no, I'm not letting you get away that easily. ^_^ There's only so many iterations of a TV a manufacturer will make. Again, I would like more choices with specs that excel in areas that matter to me. (I'm such a selfish dork sometimes. )
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Just like the 4K TV rollout- the first generations of 8K will probably lack most of the improvements of the "UHD+" standard, i.e. how early 4K TV's were SDR-only, or lack flavor(s) of HDR, or were 8 bit vs 10/12 bit, etc.
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Just like 4K TVs play 2K content, 8K TVs will play 4K content and 2K content, so I don't see why people care if the pixel count is off the hook.
The 4k roll out has been a giant half baked mess and continues to be so. Thats why I (and others I suspect) roll my eyes at the prospect of 8k. For instance my expensive "4k" AVR is not really compatible with 4k on account of HDCP and recently i learned my friends 2016 LG OLED is apparently limited to 30Hz Dolby Vision. Really? Ppl are just getting fed up by the promises thats often not delivered upon.

Come to think of it. Id much rather have working auto refresh rate on my ATV than 8k. 10+ years of HDMI and this feature is still not implemented. The new ATV4k now has an extensive list of modes to manually choose from to get judder free playback, but yeah now we need 8k ...

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