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TCL 75" C-Series (Model# 75C807) 4K Roku TV with Dolby Vision HDR

Looking for a 75" TV that packs in the features for only $2000? TCLs new 75C807 could fit the bill: It's a 4K Roku TV with Dolby Vision and HDR10.

Click here to read more: TCL Announces 75" C-Series 4K Roku TV with Dolby Vision HDR

Here's a very brief video I threw together after seeing it in person in NYC last week:

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I don't see why it'd convert any projector owners over but for those who can't have a projector it seems like a great choice, assuming they don't care about it being edge-lit.
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I don't see why it'd convert any projector owners over but for those who can't have a projector it seems like a great choice, assuming they don't care about it being edge-lit.
In terms of converting a projector person, 4K plus HDR, basically.

But obviously a different use case than home theater. More like, for someone who maybe was using an Optoma or BenQ or Epson DLP in the living room and wants to know what good options are at $2000 all-in.

Well, maybe affordable 75" TVs killed that market a while ago, but anyhow this is the deluxe package when it comes to that sort of product.

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Ugh wish it was the P series
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In terms of converting a projector person, 4K plus HDR, basically.

But obviously a different use case than home theater. More like, for someone who maybe was using an Optoma or BenQ or Epson DLP in the living room and wants to know what good options are at $2000 all-in.

Well, maybe affordable 75" TVs killed that market a while ago, but anyhow this is the deluxe package when it comes to that sort of product.
That's funny, for a minute there I kinda forgot all about how we're still waiting on "affordable" true 4K projectors.
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How about they bring back the 65" P?
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The 65" P was never released, just announced.

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How about they bring back the 65" P?
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The 65" P was never released, just announced.
Patience, please. Good things come to those who wait.

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Patience, please. Good things come to those who wait.
I realize they are working on a similar model for next year but I needed it now for my new apt.

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Honest question, how much of a difference will it make that this is edge-lit vs. FALD?
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according to the rtings.com review of both C and P, the FALD is significantly better.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/c-series-2017-c807

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Honest question, how much of a difference will it make that this is edge-lit vs. FALD?
FALD have always been the far better option for LCD TVs. It’s FALD or OLED for me.

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Honest question, how much of a difference will it make that this is edge-lit vs. FALD?
If you do most of your viewing in the daytime or with lights on, not much. If you like to watch at night with the lights off, a big difference, especially with any dark content.

It's a shame they decided to go with the 75" in this series and not the P-series, but I suppose there's a place for big cheap TVs that don't generally suck.

If nothing else TCL and LeEco (if they manage to survive) have proven that Chinese-engineered TVs can actually be competitive.

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So in the 75" space for FALDs that don't break the bank, I'm still left with just the Sony 900E and the Vizio M75? There seems to be room for another competitor and that's why it surprises me that TCL dropped the P series in this size.
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So in the 75" space for FALDs that don't break the bank, I'm still left with just the Sony 900E and the Vizio M75? There seems to be room for another competitor and that's why it surprises me that TCL dropped the P series in this size.
FALD is just not a big selling point for Joe Public.

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edge lit when are they going to make a 75in P series???
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I know that people strive for OLED or at least an excellent implemented FALD, but some reviews show the NATIVE contrast on some TCL's to be near 8000:1... Not bad, especially considering that number is based on a TV without HUGE brightness, like how the Samsung KS8000 achieves it's high ratio, we know the native black levels must be very good, if this models tests out as such... It will be interesting to see a real world review of this model, if it's uniformity and native contrast numbers are good (along with decent brightness for HDR), this would still be a great buy...
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If nothing else TCL and LeEco (if they manage to survive) have proven that Chinese-engineered TVs can actually be competitive.
I agree 100%. I bought a TCL based solely based on price at Walmart for a TV/Roku solution for my living where critical viewing has zero priority. I am pleasantly shocked at this cheap-o TV's picture and sound quality. Most TVs sound tiny and thin requiring at minimum a soundbar. This TCL gets the job done out of the box.
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Hmmm.. still too small for me to replace my projector which is projecting at about 117", also no 3D (why can't they at least add active 3D, which only requires a few pennies of extra hardware for the VESA transmitter or hell it can do DLP link (not as great as VESA, but better than nothing)).
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Thanks for the preview. Also discussed elsewhere:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...-roku-tv-news/

http://www.twice.com/news/tv/biggest...holidays/66221


Any ETA for ordering/shipping? I've pre-installed a wall mount for this 75" TV, hope I won't have to move it (I'm assuming its VESA holes are in the same relative position as the 65").

Do the 4 front-firing speakers sound better than the 65" and 55" C807 (which I assume only have 2 speakers)?

What kind of Roku menu has been added to adjust the motion processing?

Does the unit you played with in NY already run Roku OS 8?

Does the remote have the same Netflix, Sling, Hulu, Starz shortcut buttons as the remote on the other C and P models?

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Wow the TCL 75" seems to come in a really heavy package?

The 55" weighs 41 lbs, comes in a 56-lb package (15 lbs heavier).

The 65" weighs 53 lbs, comes in a 77-lb package (24 lbs heavier).

The 75" weighs 73 lbs, comes in a 116-lb package (43 lbs heavier).


I saw the freight delivery guy carrying the 65" package by himself... Will have to be careful how the 75" is handled/transported.

(Then again I'd also have to deal with the transport of LG's 86" TV earlier this year.)
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How do you guys think this TV will compare to a Vizio M series of the same size? Right now the 75” M is at the top of my short list. Dark room performance is important to me to I don’t think edge lit is going to work for me.

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It's still a C series TCL so I don't think the performance changes from the 55C807 that was tested on rtings.com

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/c-series-2017-c807

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The M Series 2017 LED TV is in the middle of Vizio's range of TVs. It features local dimming and is quite a bit brighter than the C807 in HDR. While it doesn't have an input lag quite as low, most people will be better off with the M series over the TCL since it both performs better and is found at a lower price.

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Any idea if this one will be released in Europe? It is a tempting stopgap until the 77" OLEDs or similar are coming down in price.

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For $2K list, this TV has everything but brightness and FALD, otherwise, it is the kind of Dolby Vision performance levels that were once dreams. Considering what the P55 did with 72 zones, it is just a matter of 2018 before quantum dot tech is incoming by everyone and we will see a Hisense or TCL QED 75" Dolby Vision TV at 2000+ nits for under $3000. I suspect Samsung made a deal of some kind at the Quantum Dot summit to stop the TCL P65 because Samsung knew they would be exposed this year on their pricing schemes. The TCL XESS X6 at 85" may be a huge deal if priced under $6K like the failed LeEcos UMax85. At this point, 75" is becoming the new mid range and prices for low end will soon drop below $1000 as cheaper 65" drop below $400. OLED may be in trouble if China floods the market with TVs just slightly inferior on a few levels for 1/4th the price which may be what Samsung wants to do to LG for a few years to put them under.
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http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300531637.html

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...TCL further raises the bar with its Contemporary Easel Stand™ – an integrated, custom floor mount for the 75" C-Series TCL Roku TV – that is sold separately as an accessory.
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For $2K list, this TV has everything but brightness and FALD, otherwise, it is the kind of Dolby Vision performance levels that were once dreams. Considering what the P55 did with 72 zones, it is just a matter of 2018 before quantum dot tech is incoming by everyone and we will see a Hisense or TCL QED 75" Dolby Vision TV at 2000+ nits for under $3000. I suspect Samsung made a deal of some kind at the Quantum Dot summit to stop the TCL P65 because Samsung knew they would be exposed this year on their pricing schemes. The TCL XESS X6 at 85" may be a huge deal if priced under $6K like the failed LeEcos UMax85. At this point, 75" is becoming the new mid range and prices for low end will soon drop below $1000 as cheaper 65" drop below $400. OLED may be in trouble if China floods the market with TVs just slightly inferior on a few levels for 1/4th the price which may be what Samsung wants to do to LG for a few years to put them under.
This year I've often told folks if you aren't buying a Q9F then don't bother with Samsung. Which is a far cry from last year where they were near top of the class everywhere. Don't know how much TCL P success and outright recommendation across the web affects Samsung's sales. You can find a Samsung TV at just about every retailer out there. The TCL P not so much. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I will say Samsung Has way too many TV tiers.
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........Any ETA for ordering/shipping? I've pre-installed a wall mount for this 75" TV, hope I won't have to move it (I'm assuming its VESA holes are in the same relative position as the 65")........
Not familiar with 65" but the 55" bracket mounts about 5" below center. I swapped a 55" Sammy and the TCL sits 5" higher.
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Not familiar with 65" but the 55" bracket mounts about 5" below center. I swapped a 55" Sammy and the TCL sits 5" higher.
Thanks, yeah I noticed similar. I'd have to double check my notes, but if I recall swapping a Vizio to a 65" TCL C807 on the mount raised the screen center height maybe 6-7". I ended up lowering the mount and drilling new holes.
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