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post #1 of 217 Old 02-20-2006, 10:46 AM - Thread Starter
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Anyone ever hear of this TV? It's available for a good price all over the place and I read some very nice user reviews on one retail site but I can't find out much serious info about it. It's tempting!



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Niko 32" LCD TV
NIKO New Vision OTP-3211W 32" HDTV-LCD features advanced image enhancement technologies that deliver stunning television and video entertainment. Intense color, high contrast images, 1366x768 resolution, and powerful 10-watt stereo speakers with virtual surround sound capability immerse you in the action. Integrated connections give you versatile HD* TV compatibility regardless of your HD signal source. Connect all your multemedia componentm HD set-top boxes, game consoles, VCR, DVD players and more. The OTP-3211W offers DVI/HDCP (high-definition content protection) capability ensuring long-term compatibility with evolving technology.

Specifications

Display Area 32"

Contrast Ratio 800:1

Pixel Pitch 0.51075 x 0.51075 mm

Resolution 1366 x 768

Input Video Signal NTSC

Compatibility VESA (200 mm X 200 mm)
VESA (100 mm X 100 mm)

Inputs 15 pin D-Sub
RCA
DVI-HDCP
DVI-D
S-Video

Power Consumption 210W

Unit Dimensions (WxHxD) 32.2" x 24.3" x 8.2"

Unit Weight 51 lbs.

Features

* High Resolution TV and PC
* HDTV Ready*
* Grade A+ LCD panel
* 800:1 high contrast ratio(1000:1 Dynamic)
* 500 nits high brightness
* 22ms fast response time(11ms gray to gray)
* Motion Adaptive 3D Digital Comb Filiter
* 170/170 degree super wide viewing angles
* Multiple video and audio input/output
* Dynamic Adaptive Smoothing Filter
* Dynamic Temporal Fram-Filerting Noise Reduction
* Dynamic Motion and Edge Adaptive De-interlacing
* Supports analog and digital
* Hi-Fi Surround Sound Speakers
* Multiple Language Option
* Resoulation Support 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i
* Progressive Scan video display
* Wall mount available, VESA100, VESA200
* Light weight, sleek design

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No one, eh? I'm not gonna risk it, then.
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It will be delivered tommorow (Wed). I could find nothing about this unit or this company, but the price (with buy.com $110 off coupon) was unbelievable (<700) for this much real estate. Hopefully the pq will be acceptable 'till I can get a Panny 50" plasma and then I'll hang this in the bedroom.
Today at CC I bought a Panasonic DVD Player (DVD-S29S) and an Onkyo Receiver (TX-SR503) for practically nothing after rebates and a 10% off coupon.
Last month I ordered Infinity Primus speakers from Vann's (4-150's, 2-160's, center and a 10" sub) at a huge (almost 50%) discount over CC.
Katrina wiped us out down here in New Orleans and we lost everything in our house, so I was on a tight budget (try replacing everything you own!). I feel pretty good about this setup for under $1600.
I'll get my HD box in a couple of days and I'll post my review on the Niko OTP-3211W.
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excellent! keep us posted and feel free to post photos of the set up. Sorry about Katrina, though. But it sounds like you're moving on.
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22 ms response isn't really considered "fast", is it?
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It will be delivered tommorow (Wed). I could find nothing about this unit or this company, but the price (with buy.com $110 off coupon) was unbelievable (<700) for this much real estate. Hopefully the pq will be acceptable 'till I can get a Panny 50" plasma and then I'll hang this in the bedroom.
Today at CC I bought a Panasonic DVD Player (DVD-S29S) and an Onkyo Receiver (TX-SR503) for practically nothing after rebates and a 10% off coupon.
Last month I ordered Infinity Primus speakers from Vann's (4-150's, 2-160's, center and a 10" sub) at a huge (almost 50%) discount over CC.
Katrina wiped us out down here in New Orleans and we lost everything in our house, so I was on a tight budget (try replacing everything you own!). I feel pretty good about this setup for under $1600.
I'll get my HD box in a couple of days and I'll post my review on the Niko OTP-3211W.


you have a link for that coupon code

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The buy.com coupon was e-mailed to me and was good for one use only.
FedEx just delivered the tv. I'll give you guys my initial impression of it tonight, but it'll be a few days before I get my HD box.
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I have to admit I was concerned about analog pq on a unit this cheap. Less than half what you would expect to pay at one of the big boxes. I've read sooo much about bad black levels and ghosting on these cheap lcd's. I knew HD would look great, but most my viewing will still be in SD for the foreseeable future. I pulled the tv out of the box and plugged regular old analog cable running out of an old vcr into the back. Did not hook up the progressive scan Panny DVD yet. No cable box yet. I'm just hoping the pq will be decent enough to live with for a year or so......I'm not too picky, maybe a little cheap, but....too cheap to pass up......I'm not an audiophile, just OK will be good enough for now....new shooter cummin' out...baby needs new shoes....7-11...7-11 yo, baby, yo......no craps, no craps.....ten dollar any craps just in case......I can't believe I bought a cheap crappy tv that nobody has ever seen or even heard of before...no returns....I gotta' quit droppin' purple haze late at night with a credit card and a computer around....what was I thinkin....will my therapist say this is gambling and make me go back to step 2 or 3.......at this price point I can always throw it away in a couple of years or hang it on a wall in a room that no one ever goes in and it will still look way cool hanging on the wall if no one turns it on......I can hear her mocking laughter now..... Powered up the unit and.........


BAMMMM!! I'M STUNNED!! More than I could've ever hoped for. I think I'll order another. No adjustments right out of the box and it looks wonderful! Analog SD looks great! I'm a good person after all.....I'm NOT a loser......What? Mom, is that you? I feel as high as Ricky Williams right now..... Who says you get what you pay for? I paid diddly for this set and I'm as thilled as MJ at three-for-one-kids-under-ten day at the zoo.....Disposable, excellent pq sets are here!!!

I will post again when I get HD.

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Wow, that looks good in the pictures. Does it make any humming noise? If it looks good on SD, it must look excellent on SD through component or HD...
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I'd sure like to hear some more reviews or details before the rebate expires in a couple days... anyone?? HD??
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Hi Guys,

Is there a website of this company, Niko? Have you guys come across any more reviews anywhere?

Though the deal looks tempting , I am a bit paranoid about new company, the fact that one cannot return...its still a lot of money..
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Wow, that looks good in the pictures. Does it make any humming noise? If it looks good on SD, it must look excellent on SD through component or HD...

No humming. The unit also has PIP. The swivel base is great. I highly recommend.
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hey all long time lurker, first time poster.....saw this deal @ Tigerdirect for CHEAP and wanted to find out more b4 I dropped some loot.......did a bunch of searching but finally found Niko's homepage:
nikotronics

Oh and here's the deal I found at TD:

tigerdirect/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1646804&CatId=386
looks like they raised the price $50.00 since I last checked it(probably really popular)


I am considering getting this one or the refurb Philips 30PF9946D/37B from their outlet....anyone have any opinions on this one too?

Both are are roughly same $$$ after Niko's rebate but Philips is a much more trustworthy brand....

Downside is I'll be losing 2" if I go with the Philips.......



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sorry, I tries to post the links but I had to have 5 post or more lol so you have to add the w's and dot's to the nikotronics and tigerdirect links
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OH and here's the specs for that Philips.......


30PF9946D/37B

PRODUCT FEATURES

Enhanced video performance

* Latest High Definition LCD display technology, resolution 1280 x 768p
* Digital motion compensation with Film Mode for sharp motion reproduction
* Active Control Plus+ with light sensor continually optimizes the best picture settings
* Integrated tuner that eliminates an external e-box

Stylish design

* Quality finish and matching design
* So slim you can mount it on your wall

Impressive sound

* Compact integrated stereo speaker system
* Virtual Dolby Surround that enhances your sound experience

Advanced connectivity

* The most modern and highest quality HDMI connectivity


SPECIFICATIONS

PDF Product Specifications Sheet (PDF)

Picture
Screen size : 30" (76 cm)
Visible screen size : 30" (76 cm)
Aspect ratio : Widescreen 16:9
Display : LCD Active Matrix TFT
Response Time LCD : <16 tbc
Resolution WXGA : 1280 x 768p
Brightness : 600 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio : 600:1
Viewing Angle : 170 H/170 V
Anti-Aging Circuit
Anti Reflex Coated Screen
Digital Crystal Clear
Progressive Scan
3/2 - 2/2 Motion Pulldown
Active Control Plus+ with Light Sensor

Sound
Sound Power : 2x15 W RMS
Virtual Dolby Surround
2 On Board Speakers

Ease of Use
Plug & Play
100 preset channels
Autostore
Fine Tuning/Sorting
Top Controls
RC4334 (for DVD/DVD-R)
Smart Picture Control : Soft, Natural, Rich, Multimedia, Personal
Smart Sound Control : Movie, Speech, Music, Personal
Smart Listening
Dual I-II
6 Widescreen modes : 4:3, Zoom 14:9, Zoom 16:9, Subtitle Zoom, Super Zoom, Widescreen, Fullscreen
Wake Up Clock
Smart Clock
SleepTimer (up to 240 min.)
Smart Lock (Child Lock + Parental Mode)
Screen Saver Digital Clock Display

Connections
AV1 : CVBS, Audio L/R
AV2 : CVBS, Y/C, Audio L/R
AV3 : CVBS, Audio L/R
YPbPr in : YPbPr, Audio L/R
DVI in
Monitor Out : CVBS, Audio L/R
Side : CVBS,Y/C,Audio L/R, Headphone

Information
10 page Smart Text
Program Information Line
Picture In Graphics : Video windows in PC mode

Reception
Tuning System : PLL Digital Tuning
Tuner : VHF, UHF, S-Channel, Hyperband
Aerial Input : 75 Ohm Coaxial (F-type)
TV System : NTSC
Video Playback : NTSC

Supported Display Resolutions
VGA : 640 x 480 (60, 72, 75, 85Hz)
VGA : 720 x 400 (70, 85Hz)
VGA : 640 x 350 (70, 85Hz)
MAC : 640 x 480 (66.67)
MAC : 832 x 624 (74.55)
SVGA : 800 x 600 (56, 60, 72, 75, 85Hz)
XGA : 1024 x 768 (60, 70, 75, 85Hz)
WXGA : 1280 x 768 (60, 75Hz)

Miscellaneous
Ambient temperature +5/+40°C
Mains : AC 110-120V, 60Hz
Power Consumption : Normal Operation 185W, Stand by <2W(tbc)
Set Weight : +/-39.7 lbs.
Weight Incl. Packaging : +/-66.1 lbs
Set Dimension (WxHxD) : 35.3"W x 26.3"H x 9.4"D
Box Dimension (WxHxD) : 37.5"D x 26.3"H x 9.4"D
VGA to YPbPr conversion cable included
Mini-jack to CVBS-audio L/R cable included
TV Color : Silver Frost (11027)
Wall Mounting Brackets
Designer Table Top Stand included
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I was looking for a HDTV that can function well as both a computer monitor and OK as a HD/SD TV IN the family room, not just in my office- it would be for my learning exercise in building a HTPC system so i wanted cheap, lots of input connectors, digital of course, but PQ had to be ok, better than CRT for sure but great PQ can wait till there is more real HT broadcasting/downloads and prices come down more.

This seemed to fit the bill, but I hesitate to buy it till I read more reviews and detailed specs. ( user manual anyone?). There seems to be paucity of reviews and the info at the website at nikotronic is woefully inadequate.

Please keep telling us how its working out for you.
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I could be wrong but I feel like CRT is pretty much still the gold standard in PQ. It's just the real estate that makes it less attractive than LCD.

That said, I'm soooo tempted to pull the trigger on this machine.
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Rebate expires tomorrow. Anyone have anymore input? Are we going to start seeing 32" LCD for this price now anyways or no?
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Maybe not starting this week but there's no doubt that those displays are coming down in price. That's the one thing that's holding me back from saying "hell with it" and getting the Niko. I can probably be patient and get a name brand with more reliable warrantee and return olicy for the same price in a few months. At the latest, by xmas. No insider info, but that's the way this all seems to be going. Remember, a couple of years ago all you could get was a 42" plasma for $8000.
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22ms scares me as most sets are below 12 these days...I only see 22ms in the lower quality pc monitors..Didnt Niko use to make game peripherals?

I hope you dont plan on doing any gaming...
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Well I pulled the trigger - my feeling was that because this Niko model don't have a HDTV tuner( ATSC?) then these aren't selling so well so they are clearing the decks for something with a tuner - so with the rebate expiry looming I bought. I'll give feedback as things develop.

RE: CRT is gold standard for PQ - my only side by side comparison of SDTV on LCD v SDTV on CRT has been in BestBuy and CircuitCity ( I get the sales people to switch over to BBC America ) and yup, CRT clearly outscores ! People in here and other forums say that CC BB set up their TVs really horribly so perhaps that plays into it.. In any case, the highest quality input for my CRT TV is RCA composite so that's what the LCD has to beat ! I'll be following some of the Guides in here to do the set up.

I did read that LCD panel production is really increasing and the prices will drop by 1/2 by Xmas - so I'll wait till them for the bigger and better TV.

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The response time for gray to gray is 11 according to Niko which is what alot of manufacturers claim so its pretty normal.

It seems the price dropped a little as well. I'm going to pull the trigger. Going to use the TigerDirect card for the no interest for 6 months option.


Anyone that has the TV at home, does it weight less then 40 lbs without the stand? It says 51 with stand.
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Looks like the rebate was extended til 3/31 to clear out stock.

Anyone else that gets one, let me know how it works out.
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Got my HD dvr and, as expected, the HD picture is wonderful. You won't be able to tell by these pics I posted, they don't look any better than the SD pics above, but believe me, HD looks great and I am more than satisfied. Can't find anything not to like about this tv.

One thing, this is my first HD unit and maybe this is normal, but the major network HD channels (abc & nbc) don't fill the whole screen, they are stuck in 4:3. All the other HD channels are in 16:9 and the SD channels will stretch to 16:9, but primetime HD network shows are all 4:3. Is this the way it's supposed to be? Anyone?
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My Hitachi 51" Projection does the same thing with the major networks, so I would say its normal.
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Well I pulled the trigger - my feeling was that because this Niko model don't have a HDTV tuner( ATSC?) then these aren't selling so well so they are clearing the decks for something with a tuner - so with the rebate expiry looming I bought. I'll give feedback as things develop.

RE: CRT is gold standard for PQ - my only side by side comparison of SDTV on LCD v SDTV on CRT has been in BestBuy and CircuitCity ( I get the sales people to switch over to BBC America ) and yup, CRT clearly outscores ! People in here and other forums say that CC BB set up their TVs really horribly so perhaps that plays into it.. In any case, the highest quality input for my CRT TV is RCA composite so that's what the LCD has to beat ! I'll be following some of the Guides in here to do the set up.

I did read that LCD panel production is really increasing and the prices will drop by 1/2 by Xmas - so I'll wait till them for the bigger and better TV.

-K

Yeah that could be the reason or they are a smaller company at the moment. I ordered a Syntax for $699 from TD with their 6 month no interest option and like 4 weeks later a new model was pushed out w/ an ATSC tuner....But the quality is superb and it rivals most major brands....But on a side note and a little hint, a lot of lcd televisions panels come from the same manufacturer...My Syntax came from the same place Philips/LG gets their panels from....IMO though my LCD beats CRT completely and I have had both sets w/ hd features but I like the LCD better...

yy4u-Because the broadcast isnt TRULY in HD.....
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This deal seems almost too good to be true. Anyone have any negative experiences with this Niko? yv4u -- still very happy?

Only downside I can see is the lack of the HDMI input. And the slow 22 ms response time but I am not as concerned about that. Any other issues anyone has noticed with the specs on this?
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What would a person do to use component outs? I have the component cables for the PS2 and would probably be using those. Would I need an adaptor?

yy4u, would you mind posting pics of the inputs or of other parts of the build, so we can see the construction of the thing? Thanks!

Edit: oh lord, I just noticed the Motorola 6412 DVR in the pic. God, I hate that machine. It's the worst! See the thread on it here for looooots of info on that POS.
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Finally about to order one. Was wondering, anybody using the Motorola Comcast HD hardware? I'm hoping the Comcast remote will be able to control the TV as well so I dont need to use the cheap looking Niko remote.
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Well, I went ahead and decided to order the Niko OTP-3211W from TigerDirect. I couldn't pass up the deal and this will be my first HDTV. I will provide my input on what I think about the unit after I have had a chance to play with it. If you go to Tigerdirects website and look at the reviews on this product, there are 4 reviews and they are all on the positive side. It is suppose to be here today. Cheers.
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