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post #91 of 9252 Old 03-20-2006, 06:03 PM
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I did say I was impatient. So searching 56 random sites was not out of my scope. Enjoy these links.

-I need 5 posts for url posting privileges, bleh.

Try this instead. Go to the westinghouse site. Go to the product page for the 37w1. The url ends in pc-26-7-37-1080p-monitor.aspx.

Change this to pc-53-7-37-1080p-monitor.aspx (w2 product page)
Then try pc-14-7-37-1080p-monitor.aspx (w3 product page)



From the looks of the models, these look like older mockups. But hey, its still fun.
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What is interesting is that the LVM-37w1 product page on BB is gone. If you search for it, then click the link for more details, it says the page is gone...

Yeah, that 37w1 page at Best Buy is dead for me too. No 37w3 page yet though.


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I did say I was impatient. So searching 56 random sites was not out of my scope. Enjoy these links.

-I need 5 posts for url posting privileges, bleh.

Try this instead. Go to the westinghouse site. Go to the product page for the 37w1. The url ends in pc-26-7-37-1080p-monitor.aspx.

Change this to pc-53-7-37-1080p-monitor.aspx (w2 product page)
Then try pc-14-7-37-1080p-monitor.aspx (w3 product page)

From the looks of the models, these look like older mockups. But hey, its still fun.

The w3 URL you listed (from the Westinghouse site) is a 32" model. Strange that URL links to it though. Here is the proper URL.
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I searched up through about 60.jpg on the images, and didn't find any that looked like the 37". So, unless they jumped way up in numbers, it's not on the site yet...

(Westinghouse "cleverly" just numbers their pictures, so they can't be searched on google.)

pc-26-7-37-1080p-monitor.aspx

First number is the main picture number, i.e., 26.jpg, not sure about the 7, and the rest is obvious.

The 7 is the same as in the 42" link, so maybe it's common.

Would be cool to have a program that you could generate web site links with, then try them...hmm...might have to try and do something like that.
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I think you guys are jonesing.
Might be time to book into AVholics Anonymous .
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Yesterday a sales person a J&R said they expected the 37W3 in 7 to 10 more days. So, I last night I bought the Vizio L37 from Sam's.

I'll see (via this thread) how the new Westy looks and performs over the next few months. If it's a solid winner, then I'll go for it. In the meantime, I can enjoy the Vizio as a good value choice -- and my first venture into HDTV.

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Decisions decisions. I preordered the w3 from J&R last week. There was a website error that added the 42w2 for less than a hundred. I was getting both monitors for around 2 grand. J&R cancelled the order but offered me free shipping. I took it. So I have the w3 on order for the J&R price, no tax or shipping. I got the w1 from Crutchfield for 150 less. Is a new form factor, better inputs, an updated OSD menu and better speakers worth the extra 150? I've had no problems with my w1 besides the 1/4 right of the screen being a little brighter than the rest and it has no dead pixels. I know that if the w3 had a new panel this would be an easy decision. I have to return my w1 in 1 1/2 weeks.

Yea, the J&R guy on the phone said that the first week of April was his best estimation on when the w3s would be available.
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[quote=Toebee] There was a website error that added the 42w2 for less than a hundred./QUOTE]
Teobee,
Yeah, I discovered the web error too. I did a double take, then tried to get it, but the system canceled the order -- just like you experienced.
It was funny and exciting while it lasted.

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Did they offer you free shipping? I took since it was reported here that BB's price is higher than J&R's.
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The LVM-37w3 is showing up in the internal BB system[EDIT]

Any indication of when it will be available either online or in-store?
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The other issue is that with the price of the 42" falling (Crutchfield too) then $2k preorder price for the 37" is harder to bear . . . unless we learn that the 37 is definitively better than the 42.

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What is the difference between the Westy LTV-32W3 and the Westy LTV-32W6?

Looking at the website, I can't see any differences between the two. In the specs. or anywhere.

Will both the W3 and W6 be available at Best Buy?

If anyone knows the difference's between the two please elaborate.
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The w6 doesn't appear to have a DVI input, but that's about the only difference I can see, aside from asthetics.
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Saw the LTV-37w2 at BB tonight and it was very impressive for a 720p TV. In that particular store, the 37w2 wa sitting immediately above the old 37w1 and I thought the 37w2 was far superior. The black levels appeared to be much better and the dark details were certainly better too. You could see details in dark scenes that could not be seen on the w1. The overall asthetics of the LTV-37w2 was VERY GOOD and it now looks like a more mainstream brand. I never really warmed up to the looks of the 37w1, so the new look is a huge improvement IMHO. If the LVM-37w3 looks this good and has great picture quality, it may be the monitor for me. Too bad its not going to be an LTV-37w3 (as in TV, not a monitor) as it would be nice to have the 1080p panel, speakers and ATSC/NTSC tuners in one unit.

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Damn. This is an excruciating wait.
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I never really warmed up to the looks of the 37w1, so the new look is a huge improvement IMHO. If the LVM-37w3 looks this good and has great picture quality, it may be the monitor for me. Too bad its not going to be an LTV-37w3 (as in TV, not a monitor) as it would be nice to have the 1080p panel, speakers and ATSC/NTSC tuners in one unit.

I'm with you on the design improvement, the w1 was dorky looking IMO. The w3 is a vast improvement. Let's hope the rest pans out that way also.

The w3 does include speakers, like the w1, as far as can be told right now. Whether they're detachable is another question.

Just got my refund cheque from BB for the w1 return. Now I don't know whether to sit on the w3 or get an interim tv to tie me over for at least 30 days
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The w3 is a vast improvement. Let's hope the rest pans out that way also.

Judging by the LVM-42w2, I'm not optimistic. Lots of problems.

P.S. I went to my local Future Shop yesterday to check out some of the large 720p panels they had there. For some reason, basically all were being fed the same crappy analogue SD TV source.

What struck me was just how bad that source looked on the LCDs. On most of the expensive LCDs, it looked bad, but some were watchable. On most of the cheaper ones it just looked bad, period. OK, not so surprising, but it was very watchable on even the bargain basement CRTs. Now we already knew this, but I was just surprised at how much of a difference it was. ie. It looked noticeably better on a noname brand 26" CRT that costs a couple of hundred bux than it did on a $2500 name-brand 32" LCD.
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You shouldn't go by the picture you see on the display floor. Who knows how they've set it up and what connections they used.

I was checking out some LCD's at BB last weekend and thought the pq was pretty bad on a HD signal. I looked in the back and it was hooked up via a RF cable.

No wonder it sucked. I can't imagine how bad it would have looked if it was a SD signal.
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They really don't look like they have removable speakers. IMO, the w1 looks better than the w3 when it's wall mounted. I've seen the 42w2 in person and the plastic quality construction looks kind cheap compared to the 37w1's. But since I'll always have the w3 on it's stand I think it will look better than the w1 on it's stand with its speakers.
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I also do not think the speakers are removable. They are, however, 5 watts each more powerful on the w3, versus the w1. No subwoofer though, like the 42w2.

I think I'm waiting on the w3. I can't justify the +$500 for the 42, as much as I'd like to have it. I just hope that the reason we aren't seeing the w3 yet, is because they are fixing the lock-up issue (with the 42 and hopefully, the 37).
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You shouldn't go by the picture you see on the display floor. Who knows how they've set it up and what connections they used.

I was checking out some LCD's at BB last weekend and thought the pq was pretty bad on a HD signal. I looked in the back and it was hooked up via a RF cable.

No wonder it sucked. I can't imagine how bad it would have looked if it was a SD signal.

I adjusted some of the LCDs. They still sucked on that low rez noisy analogue SD signal no matter how much I tried to tweak them. Like I said, the worst CRT seemed to do better than the best LCD.

The problem was the signal was a bit noisy, and these LCDs really didn't seem to cope well as a group. (They looked great on HD though.)

Why does this even matter? Well, unfortunately a couple of the channels I sometimes watch are noisy analogue SD channels.
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Hi everyone!

I've been reading up on this forum a lot but this is my first post . I was just at BB today and I talk to one of the sales guys there. He looked up the new Westinghouse 37w3. It showed up and I was told by the (not very smart) sales clerk that they were never going to carry it. I promptly asked him if he was sure ... cuz if they weren't going to carry it then why was it in their comp? He stood his ground. I saw the price and it was 200 more than the current BB price for the 37w1. Not bad I guess. Just to point out how bad this clerk was, he tried to sell me the 37w2 as a 1080p set! I was like "no it's not .. it's 1080i" and he said he had just sold it yesterday to a guy that walked in with all the stats on it. I wanted to be like "You work here and you are getting your info from random walk ins?" I'm very anxious to see how the 37v3 looks. The new 32" is quite attractive, although I am a huge fan of removable speakers.

To sum up, the 37w3 is in the system for sub 2k .. not bad if all the problems are solved, I'm sold!
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Did he say why they weren't going to carry it, or offer any explanation why it was in their computer but still they wouldn't be carrying it?

I'm hoping he really was as dumb as you say, which wouldn't surprise me one bit for BB.
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Best Buy will be carrying the LVM-37W3 it will be available within 2-3 weeks
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He wasnt really willing to listen or talk that much. Had that very fast "what do you want? i know what im talking about go away" kinda talk. I hate that talk. I'm more than sure BB will carry it like sharp101 says
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Best Buy will be carrying the LVM-37W3 it will be available within 2-3 weeks

Is this just conjecture, or hard and cold fact?

Not that I doubt you, but I'm wondering how it is you know this.
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Good question. The J&R sales rep gave me the same estimation but he didn't quote that from the computer it was just his guess. I really wish there was a press release from Westinghouse.
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Someone on the w1 thread also stated that BB will have them mid April.

I expect they'll actually have them in their warehouses sooner, much like the 42w2.
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The LVM-37w3 is now also listed in the crutchfield system it will be priced the same as the listing on the J&R website.
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The LVM-37w3 is now also listed in the crutchfield system it will be priced the same as the listing on the J&R website.


Not finding it in my searches there.
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