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There was a slight red-push in flesh tones when I first saw it, but turning the color temp down and the color value up got rid of it completely. And I didn't notice any ill effects from DNIe--BUT, I wasn't there very long (only about 15 minutes), so I didn't have time to look as closely as I would have liked. I will say that SD looked great: CC plays an SD commercial for Verizon Wireless in the midst of their HD loop; I've seen it look craptacular a million times on other TVs. It looked no worse on the 4692D than it does on my 32" CRT.

I've decided, though, that I'm not going back to CC (or anywhere else) until they have the actual units I want to compare (37" Sharp and 40" Samsung). Seems to be too much variation between models in the same line, and its killing me to see these great TVs without the possibility of walking out with the one I want.
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Anyone know if someone has measured the calibrated CR of these or previous Samsung LCD panels? Perhaps a review site somewhere? Just wondering how much is lossed/gained once it's calibrated.
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There was a slight red-push in flesh tones when I first saw it, but turning the color temp down and the color value up got rid of it completely.

Where at in the menu can you do this????? and how would u do it????

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I've decided, though, that I'm not going back to CC (or anywhere else) until they have the actual units I want to compare (37" Sharp and 40" Samsung). Seems to be too much variation between models in the same line, and its killing me to see these great TVs without the possibility of walking out with the one I want.

I just went ahead and ordered the lns4692d from seeing the PQ of the lns4051d and knowing the ln-s4692d was a step up from this tv. Plus i found agreat deal so that swayed my decision also.
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Chose "Custom" as the picture mode and set the values to whatever you want.
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yeah i did that at CC but i didnt see an optionfor color temp or color value, do i have to scrol down more?
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CC stoped taking preorders on the 92D!!. Samsung has also changed their web page and only shows the last year models. Is there something going on that we don't know about?
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I think my 3251D is having some problems. Here's whats happening:

1) Whenever there is a letterboxed image being displayed, either through the cable signal or via HDMI, there are two faint, dark lines that run parallel to the letterboxed areas. Each faint line is aprox. 1/4" away from the border of each letterboxed area. Has anyone else noticed this with this set? It's not overly annoying but if this isn't a normal attribute of this set then I might have to return it.

2) When I use my upconverting DVD player via the HDMI cable I notice occasional static pops and crackling sounds coming from the TV speakers. This happens no matter which HDMI input on the set I use. I called Toshiba, the manufacturer of the player, and they said that there shouldn't be any sound distortions at all when using a HDMI cable. Is this true? Can anyone comment on what they think the problem might be before I decide to call Samsung?

I appreciate any feedback that anyone can give me. Thanks!
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CC stoped taking preorders on the 92D!!. Samsung has also changed their web page and only shows the last year models. Is there something going on that we don't know about?


Which 92D? The 40" or the 46"?

Samsung's site still has the 40" up, but the 46" is nowhere to be seen. And both have been removed from the pull-down menu (the 40" is only there if you navigate into TVs>LCDs.

Maybe they've sold out already? Not likely. Not sure what's going on...
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The 46" wont be available in april. That might be why they removed it from the page. Or the Samsung dealers where complaining the they are already advertising the new LCD line while they still have the old models in the ware house and nobody wants to buy them.
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Thats not true, the 46'' is available right now:
[EDIT]"mod removed link - just do a web search and you will find both brick and mortars and online dealers that have the sets in stock"
I imagine they are just in the process of cleaning up their web listings on the samsung site.

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It looks like the 46 page is still up - they just don't have a direct link to it:
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/L...S4692DXXAA.asp

They also removed the "coming soon" tag, although the store locator doesnt work yet.

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edit - never mind, the 46 listing is back up.
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Where at in the menu can you do this????? and how would u do it????


I just went ahead and ordered the lns4692d from seeing the PQ of the lns4051d and knowing the ln-s4692d was a step up from this tv. Plus i found agreat deal so that swayed my decision also.

Hey Mike,

I am VERY interested in that TV. Can you please post a review after you have played around with it for awhile? Since it's such a new model, reviews are simply non-existant right now.

Also, any chance you could let me know where you got your great deal from?
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yeah i will post when i get it. its on a pre order right now so i should have it by the end of this week or next.
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Keep in mind that there are two different 46" sets.

The LN-S4692D which is at circuit city now is 768p native with 5000:1 dynamic contrast ratio.
The LN-S4696D due out later this year is 1080p native with 7000:1 dynamic contrast ratio.


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LN-S4696D

HD-grade 1920(H) x 1080(V) pixel resolution

7000:1 dynamic contrast ratio

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LN-S4692D

HD-grade 1366(H) x 768(V) pixel resolution

5000:1 dynamic contrast ratio/500 cd/m2

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yea i ordered the 4692d
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Could anyone who sees the LN-S4692D check to see if it has a QAM tuner? I know they no longer have cablecard slots, and have not seen QAM listed on any of the spec sheets and am curious.

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Samsung LN-S4692D 46" Wide High Definition TV with Integrated DCR Tuner
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Does anybody know if the backlight is adjustable on the LN-S models?

Specifically I am interested in the LN-S4092D and LN-S4692D.

I didn't see any mention of it in their manuals online.
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Hello everyone,

I have a question I am hoping to get assistance on. I just purchased a Samsung LN-S4092D. I love the picture, absolutely awesome. However, I have one problem. I am not getting Dolby Digital 5.1 out of the Digital Out (optical). Here is my current setup. I have Brighthouse Cable and a SA8300HD DVR. I have the SA8300HD hooked up to the Samsung via HDMI. I then have an optical cable going from the digital out on the TV to an optical digital in on my Samsung Home Theater system. I have the SA8300HD set to HDMI on the Audio Digital Out setting. I am NOT getting Dolby Digital sound. I thought that HDMI supported both the video and audio and that was the benefit by only needing one cable. Is there something wrong with the TV itself? I picked up the Samsung after returning the LG 37LC2D which seemed to support Dolby Digital via the same hookup. I say this becase my receiver would say "Dolby Digital" but does not say it now that I have the Samsung hooked up. Can anyone offer any suggestions/explanations? Thanks in advance.

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Dude, welcome to the forum and everything, but how many times did you post this question? I answered it in one thread that you started, then I spotted another thread you started to ask it, now I find it here. I understand you're freaking out, but try to honor the forum rules.
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Samsung LN-S4692D 46" Wide High Definition TV with Integrated DCR Tuner

Thats from TVA's website which I'm not sure is entirely accurate. It also says the 4692 comes with a cable card slot, however cablecard functionality is not listed in the manual or brochure for the TV on samsungs website.

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I think my 3251D is having some problems. Here's whats happening:

1) Whenever there is a letterboxed image being displayed, either through the cable signal or via HDMI, there are two faint, dark lines that run parallel to the letterboxed areas. Each faint line is aprox. 1/4" away from the border of each letterboxed area. Has anyone else noticed this with this set? It's not overly annoying but if this isn't a normal attribute of this set then I might have to return it.

2) When I use my upconverting DVD player via the HDMI cable I notice occasional static pops and crackling sounds coming from the TV speakers. This happens no matter which HDMI input on the set I use. I called Toshiba, the manufacturer of the player, and they said that there shouldn't be any sound distortions at all when using a HDMI cable. Is this true? Can anyone comment on what they think the problem might be before I decide to call Samsung?

I appreciate any feedback that anyone can give me. Thanks!


I just got my 3251D on Monday. I currently have an older DVD player, but tomorrow the Oppo I ordered will be here and I'll check and see if I have any issues like that. Its got a DVI connection and comes with a DVI to HDMI cable that I'll use to plug it into my 3251D.

Also on the letterbox issue, I have stuff like that happen as well so if someone can help me with this it would be much appreciated. I am a complete HDTV n00b, and this is my first one.

Also, concerning the DNIe that is so heavily discussed. I remember an option on my LCD to turn it on and off, so I'm not sure why everyone thinks you can't turn it off. I guess I will confirm that as well when I get home tonight

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Are DCR and QAM the same thing?

All the manual says is: "With a built-in HD digital tuner, non-subscription HD broadcasts can be viewed with no Set-Top Box needed." Doesn't mention QAM, but that certainly sounds like QAM.
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Also, concerning the DNIe that is so heavily discussed. I remember an option on my LCD to turn it on and off, so I'm not sure why everyone thinks you can't turn it off. I guess I will confirm that as well when I get home tonight

Its already been confirmed on these boards that none of the new LCDs allow you turn DNIe off entirely. You can only toggle the Demo Mode on and off. If its not in Demo mode, then DNIe is on.
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Any idea what the following Australian models equate to in the models you guys have over there? - LA32M61B & LA40M61B (see link below for more details)

http://www.samsung.com/au/products/tv/lcdtv/index.asp

Are these older models compared to what you have currently, or are they completely different sets?

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Any idea what the following Australian models equate to in the models you guys have over there? - LA32M61B & LA40M61B (see link below for more details)

http://www.samsung.com/au/products/tv/lcdtv/index.asp

Are these older models compared to what you have currently, or are they completely different sets?

Regards,
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I would say that the 40" model is the same as the LN-S4092D but it has the my colour control option in the menu. The current US models don't have the my colour control. Every thing else look the same to me.
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Its already been confirmed on these boards that none of the new LCDs allow you turn DNIe off entirely. You can only toggle the Demo Mode on and off. If its not in Demo mode, then DNIe is on.

Well see I'm a n00b, I see now what it is

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I think my 3251D is having some problems. Here's whats happening:

1) Whenever there is a letterboxed image being displayed, either through the cable signal or via HDMI, there are two faint, dark lines that run parallel to the letterboxed areas. Each faint line is aprox. 1/4" away from the border of each letterboxed area. Has anyone else noticed this with this set? It's not overly annoying but if this isn't a normal attribute of this set then I might have to return it.

2) When I use my upconverting DVD player via the HDMI cable I notice occasional static pops and crackling sounds coming from the TV speakers. This happens no matter which HDMI input on the set I use. I called Toshiba, the manufacturer of the player, and they said that there shouldn't be any sound distortions at all when using a HDMI cable. Is this true? Can anyone comment on what they think the problem might be before I decide to call Samsung?

I appreciate any feedback that anyone can give me. Thanks!

Had a similar problem as 1). Line occurred about 1/4 up screen when showing letterbox. Returned to CC because of this. Waiting now on replacement. Seems to be backordered, though. Anyone else with this problem? Saw the same (but much worse) on 3241D. Wonder if popularity of the set or problem is the cause of lack of availability.
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Are DCR and QAM the same thing?

All the manual says is: "With a built-in HD digital tuner, non-subscription HD broadcasts can be viewed with no Set-Top Box needed." Doesn't mention QAM, but that certainly sounds like QAM.

DCR is Digital Cable Ready; to carry that moniker it needs to have a QAM tuner and a CC slot.

Some TVs, increasingly more it appears, just have a QAM tuner, this allows for viewing unencrypted HD cable channels, typically HD Locals, but sometimes more or less. This is also sometimes called a 'Clear-QAM tuner'.

The description you quoted, says 'non-subscription', that certainly implies to me like the ATSC 8VSB (Digital OTA) tuner, not the QAM tuner.
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Anybody purchased a model in the "92" line yet and can post a review? I have seen the LN-S4692D in CC for over a week now and I am looking for some first-hand feedback on these models. General opinions are fine, and mainly looking for any negative issues and if you find any problems with DNIe.
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I wish they would be a little more specific. Last years model, the 469 had a QAM tuner, and I know the 4696 has a QAM tuner, but nothing about this feature on the 4692. Unfortunately I need a QAM tuner on my set, so this is a major selling point for me and will determine which tv I will buy.

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