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Pulled the trigger on this from Crutchfield, expecting a call from the freight delivery guys soon, and downloaded the manual from Westinghouse.

One thing I didn't see in the manual was the procedure for removing the stand - does it come shipped attached and/or is the removal procedure extremely obvious ?
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Well, my Westy 47 will be delivered in a few hours. Today is a good day. Since this is my first HDTV, I need to head to the Time Warner offices to trade out my older digital cable box for their SA 8300HD high def PVR. Once all setup, I will post photos and thoughts on the Westy. Keep in mind I am hurrying to get it setup for the All Star game tonight!
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One thing I didn't see in the manual was the procedure for removing the stand - does it come shipped attached and/or is the removal procedure extremely obvious ?

It comes attached. I didn't investigate the removal procedure.
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Physical Dimensions 31.7" x 46.1" x 8.9" (with Base)
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29.2" x 46.1" x 5.0" (w/o Base)
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ps: my 47"er arrives tomorrow PM. Report/opinions to follow Thursday.

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My wife just walked into our living room where the new 47 Westy is going to reside. I have the entire wall marked up with masking tape, indicating where our new built-in bookshevles are going to go. She homed in on the large rectangular area in the middle, indicating where the monitor will be mounted on the wall. Her response?

"is that big enough?"

7 years of marriage, and she is already trained well.

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The toshiba TV you mentioned comes out to about $2500 including shipping and thats the price for the 42 inch the Westinghouse is the same price for the 47 inch you do the math

Westinghouse quality has been none too good. Neither has their service. Local service? The Westy panels I see at BB do not look very good. (but they are getting better).

Why does BB not carry the 47"? Pondering for all of two seconds - too many returns.

It is very risky, foolish, and costly to mail order a display based upon their high rate of returns. How much is the shipping if it has to be returned? That is if it can be returned...

The Toshiba brand is superior in every performace and reliability aspect. The Toshiba 47" should go for about $3K with local purchase. This comes with free 12-18 month financing and a free 30 return privilege. Do the math with quality and performance added in and you will get the real cost.
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Westinghouse quality has been none too good. Neither has their service. Local service? The Westy panels I see at BB do not look very good. (but they are getting better).

Why does BB not carry the 47"? Pondering for all of two seconds - too many returns.

It is very risky, foolish, and costly to mail order a display based upon their high rate of returns. How much is the shipping if it has to be returned? That is if it can be returned...

The Toshiba brand is superior in every performace and reliability aspect. The Toshiba 47" should go for about $3K with local purchase. This comes with free 12-18 month financing and a free 30 return privilege. Do the math with quality and performance added in and you will get the real cost.


I guess I should get rid of the two perfectly good monitors (42" and 47") I have from Westinghouse and run out and pick up the Toshiba.

by the way... I was able to pickup 2 Westys for the price of the one 60" SXRD screen I was replacing.

If you are going to shill for Toshiba don't you think it might be better done in a different thread?


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The Toshiba 47" should go for about $3K with local purchase. This comes with free 12-18 month financing and a free 30 return privilege. Do the math with quality and performance added in and you will get the real cost.


Where?
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Mine just got delivered. Well packed, and all in one piece. These boxes come with a Drop (N) Tell device on them (at least from Crutchfield) that indicates where the box has exceeded a certain amount of g forces. Nice feature.

Photos and initial impressions to come later today.
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I think someone needs to revoke your license to post, until you learn how to fact check (or google search at a bare minimum). For the love of God, man:



The above is found near the bottom of this page:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl....DTL&type=tech

This took me 3 minutes to find (at most) using google and some basic search terms.

Oh, and as for wiki entries, how about I post one that is actually relevant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westinghouse

See how yours is in "Prior companies"? The one you should have linked to was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westing...ion_%281998%29. On this page, you want to check the heading "Licensing of the Westinghouse brand".

See how this one is listed in "Present companies" in the first link of mine? You see the difference between what these two companies do? Oh, and the minor point that only the one I link to still exists with the "Westinghouse" name. Kinda different that what you indicated, huh? It is like night vs day, actually.

Writing a big enough check, does not make them "Westinghouse". All they are doing is paying to use the name, so they do not have to make up some name like "Maxent" or "Sceptre". It seems to have worked on you like a charm. I guess they are hoping that you represent the typical ability of a consumer to figure out what is going on. Who knows, they are probably right.

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Westinghouse quality has been none too good. Neither has their service. Local service? The Westy panels I see at BB do not look very good. (but they are getting better).

Why does BB not carry the 47"? Pondering for all of two seconds - too many returns.

It is very risky, foolish, and costly to mail order a display based upon their high rate of returns. How much is the shipping if it has to be returned? That is if it can be returned...

The Toshiba brand is superior in every performace and reliability aspect. The Toshiba 47" should go for about $3K with local purchase. This comes with free 12-18 month financing and a free 30 return privilege. Do the math with quality and performance added in and you will get the real cost.

I saw something in the $6K to $8K range for 1080p 47" Toshiba LCD currently available via google.

Please stop posting FUD or misleading statetments like such...... no one welcomes a troll, even on this forum.
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Mine just got delivered. Well packed, and all in one piece. These boxes come with a Drop (N) Tell device on them (at least from Crutchfield) that indicates where the box has exceeded a certain amount of g forces. Nice feature.

Photos and initial impressions to come later today.

Thanks! I'm close to pulling the trigger as well and interested to hear how the Crutchfield purchase worked out. (any dead pixels etc?)
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i want to order this now, but the one disadvantage of online ordering is dead pixels. at least at best buy i can exchange it if there's a dead pixel.
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Mine just got delivered. Well packed, and all in one piece. These boxes come with a Drop (N) Tell device on them (at least from Crutchfield) that indicates where the box has exceeded a certain amount of g forces. Nice feature.

Photos and initial impressions to come later today.


what carrier did they use?
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i want to order this now, but the one disadvantage of online ordering is dead pixels. at least at best buy i can exchange it if there's a dead pixel.


That's why I haven't ordered it yet. All the places that carry it don't have a return policy. If there's too many dead pixels you have to take it up with the manufacturer. And even then it's up to Westinghouse on what they consider too many dead pixels. I refuse to spend that much and not have a guarantee that I'll be happy with it!

Too bad there's still no word when/if BB will carry it.


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inevitably best buy will carry it. as someone who used to work there, what will probably happen is that it will start popping up randomly in stores....then once availibilty is high then we'll see it on the website.

i'll bet there's a sku for it in their database now. (usually there is several weeks before a product is even in stores).
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are tv's considered large items with crutchfield? i can't imagine what it would cost to send it back to them.
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are tv's considered large items with crutchfield? i can't imagine what it would cost to send it back to them.

TVs over 24" are considered large items, but clearly defective items still qualify for free return shipping. The CF representative I spoke with assured me that the TV would arrive in good shape. Never had any issue getting good customer service from CF.
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NOT on TVs this big. I spoke with them and if there's dead pixels he said I need to take it up with westinghouse. They won't take it back unless it's broken (ie not working). Get your facts straight before you post.
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Don't be a hat'r. The rep that processed my order either lied to me or their web site is wrong. Either way, I will fight tooth and nail on that 30 day action via the direct phone line to my rep if need be.

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Do any one has a sceptre 42" to compare to the Westinghouse 47"? I wonder to know if the W has better picture quality.
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I'm not hatin, sorry if my post was too aggressive. And I hope yours comes in perfect shape. Just letting others know.


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...This is an automated email sent from Crutchfield.com Live Chat. The following information is a log of your session.

07/06/2006 09:32:39PM Rich: "thinking about getting the Westinghouse LVM-47w1 47" HDTV-ready 1080p LCD monitor"
07/06/2006 09:32:54PM Rich: "what's the return policy with regard to dead/stuck pixels"
07/06/2006 09:33:45PM Agent (Jay): "You will have to contact the manufacturer regarding their standards on dead pixels. Each manufacturer has their own definition of the "allotted" amount."

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looks like number of you guys already received it, can you post some thoughts about brightness, black levels etc...

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I am waiting on my brother to arrive to help take the Westy out of the box. I want to keep the box, just in case of any issues. You never know. Once we get the tv hooked up, I will report back in between commercials of the All Star game......
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Don't be a hat'r. The rep that processed my order either lied to me or their web site is wrong. Either way, I will fight tooth and nail on that 30 day action via the direct phone line to my rep if need be.

peace.

Thanks for revealing this clever deception. The more you push the truth the more those posting to make a profit become angry. Do they think AVS members are stupid? Most times the offenders pull the troll tactic when their infomerical goes sour. Westinghouse buyers need to receive a written 30 day return with free return shipping statement before they placing their order. Trust but verify.

The last thing Crutchfied or any mail order business dreads, is getting stuck for expensive shipping four times on a return:
1) shipped to them from Westinghouse
2) ship to customer
3) shipped from displeased customer
4) ship defective display back to Westinghouse

This is why so many second and third rate large LCDs are shipped only mail-order.
It makes the product much more difficult and costly for the customers to return. Which is the whole point!
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I ordered the 27" Westinghouse (LVT-27w6) from Crutchfield yesterday. Its coming via UPS. I was assured by their rep that it was returnable within 30 days. Hope I don't have to return the TV but if I do - they better not go back on their word. Perhaps it won't be an issue because of the size and regular UPS delivery. This is my first purchase from Crutchfield. I never dreamt I would have purchased a TV via mail order but the price was too good to pass up.
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I got mine today, unpacked and hooked it up. Looks great, pics coming later. So far no dead pixels, but I didn't look too hard. No banding either, but again, I didn't look too hard - but nothing obvious from normal viewing.

HD looks great, especially the 1080i ones. SD looks okay, but nothing to write home about (both from Comcast). I didn't change any settings - so hopefully SD can be made to look a bit better - but I don't really care.

I especially like the fact that there is no glare since I sit in a bright room.

DVD from Oppo 971H looks sweet.

Hooked up my laptop via DVI1 and it looks sweet, but my laptop is limited to 1400x1050. The Westy centers it and shows it at 1080p. But the desktop looks sharp and has the "wow" factor - way better than my laptop screen.

Next up, DVD from Oppo 971H.
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