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post #181 of 4028 Old 06-29-2006, 12:21 PM
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Big Panels that are not effected: dell 3007, westy 37w3, dell 2407

Oh thank you very much, I wonder how good the westy 47w1 will be? Sorry for the misinformation about the dell 30". I will try to keep my facts straight.

Do you plan on getting the 47? Since I plan to play quake 4 it will have to scale the image... from 1600x... to 1900x... I hope the scaler/dsp is very fast

I plan on getting the nvidia 7950 and if that is not enough get a sli motherboard and run dual 7950. Now that you say the 37w3 is good I will consider that one also...

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did anyone test the westy 47'

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did anyone test the westy 47'

Better yet...has anyone even seen one yet?

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The BB's in my area say there are no plans to display the 47" Westys in-store. According to the store managers, the set can be special ordered for $3K but there is currently no stock available so special orders cannot be accepted. I assume that $3K is the List Price and thus there is no problem in posting it here.
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Better yet...has anyone even seen one yet?


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Yes!!! it shows available at crutchfield. I'm going to hold out for this set instead of the 42". I have a manager @ my local BB who is owing me big time due to 2 screws up on their part. Maybe he will give me a discount on this instead of the 42" which is no longer instock here in So Cal. Happy Days Are Here Again. Gives me plenty of time to save up!!!!!!
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Does the 47" have HDMI v.1.3?

No, and AFAIK there'd be no benefit to it, as the display wouldn't support any of the new 1.3 features anyway.
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No, and AFAIK there'd be no benefit to it, as the display wouldn't support any of the new 1.3 features anyway.

By that do you mean the 36 and 48 bit color?

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By that do you mean the 36 and 48 bit color?

The deep color, the lossless audio formats, the higher bandwidth.
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Oh, do you know if the "deep color" is a major upgrade or not, I really couldn't find anything out about it?

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Who cares about audio on a TV. It should go to a stereo!! I don't think there will be any TVs that have 1.3 untill early 2007. Even if there is no source will utilize it for a long time. Blu Ray and HD-DVD can't even get video right let alone audio!
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Oh, do you know if the "deep color" is a major upgrade or not, I really couldn't find anything out about it?

Deep (30, 36, or 48-bit) color is a major upgrade if your source can generate it and your video processor can maintain it and your display can reproduce it. You can get info about HDMI 1.3 at hdmi.org.
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Who cares about audio on a TV. It should go to a stereo!! I don't think there will be any TVs that have 1.3 untill early 2007. Even if there is no source will utilize it for a long time. Blu Ray and HD-DVD can't even get video right let alone audio!


I could care less about audio, who mentioned anything about it? I was asking about the video aspects of HDMI v1.3. Read before responding

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I could care less about audio, who mentioned anything about it? I was asking about the video aspects of HDMI v1.3. Read before responding


..I did read it...I just did not take the time to explain why I mentioned it (my Call of Duty game was starting ). I just jumped the gun because I knew someone was going to mention audio soon. I assumed people know about the audio formats of HDMI 1.1 vs HDMI 1.3.


Anyway I would be happy if one company could at least utilize HDMI 1.1 (Blu Ray/HD-DVD). Lets face it all current sources come up very short from what they could be capable of. I just don't seen HDMI 1.1 as the bottle neck it is made out to be.
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did anyone test the westy 47'

The specs on the manu page says that it supports 1080I using the component inputs but the user manual ( which is for the 42 and 47") says 1080P with component inputs. I'm curious as to which applies to the 47" as my HD cable box ( SA 3250HD from Charter) does not have HDMI output . The box does have a DVI connedtor on it but I don't know if it's functional as I do not have an HDTV yet.
Don't know if I can post the manu. link but here it is:
http://www.westinghousedigital.com/p...p-monitor.aspx

the manual is available from the downloads link.

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Does anyone actually have this set yet? I'm trying to decide between it and the 42" version or spend more and get another 1080p set later. There seems to be a lot of concern about the 42" and 1080p input compatibility, wondering whether this set has the same "problem."

Not sure whether I need this big either, couch sits probably 7 feet from TV probably.

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I purchased the 42"er 26 days ago, despite the HT mgr taking me in the back and pointing out all the returns (mostly for dead or stuck pixels). I was definitely torn, because the floor display was gorgeous. He gave me the rap about the 30 days, i'll work with you for the first year with the extndd warr., so I caved and bit the bullet.

Got the set home and I was dazzled. You really do watch HD content simply because it looks great (not because it has substance). The HDMI connection from my Comcast Moto DVR was flawless with HD...SD is soft and muddy ( but so what, I have all of my local channels in HD too). So I'm watching Entourage on HBOHD, and I noticed a little green spec on the right side of the screen. I'm sitting almost 10' away and it's just taunting me. So now I decide to waste an hour and a half of my life with the weak Excorcism of Emily Rose...very dark overall cimematography, but my little green friend provides a never ending distraction. When the picture is light, you don't see it, but once the scene is medium to dark, there it is. Upon closer inspection, a few more subtle blue and greyish pixels appear stuck. This is truely disappointing as I love the set. But tonight it goes back from whence it came. I will upgrade to the 47"er because I can't justify spending this kind of money and have flaws appear 3 day into ownership.

The last thing I would ask the group is this: what is the likelihood of more pixels going bad, and is there a way to properly "break-in" the unit to possibly avoid this issue in the future?

All the best.

Onward and upward to 47".

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Don't give up on your 42'' yet. Try this:

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Stuck-P...an-LCD-Monitor

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I've used that trick with LCD computer monitors and it worked for me. I've read that you should run the panel with a full white screen (probably take a PC to generate that) for 24-48 hours at full brightness and contrast to help as well. Again it's worked for me with stuck pixels on my 21" dell monitors.

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So, has anyone brought this bad boy home, yet? It's been fews days since crutchfield started shipping, right?
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I ordered one yesterday from Crutchfield, guess should get it by end of next week.
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I've been following the chatter about the 42" Westinghouse for a while. Also have a 42" and 50" Panasonic 8uk for client monitoring at our studio where we do professional HD color grading and digital intermediates. Some of our clients are New Line Cinema, Fox, Discovery, Universal, Lion's Gate, so we're exceptionally picky about colorimetry characteristics. To compare anything to the Panasonic Plasmas is sensible--although a different picture distribution medium altogether--considering the professional level of control over picture quality and the picture quality itself.

After months of handwringing research, we decided on the 47" model versus a 50" plasma of lesser cost and better viewing angle, because of the multiplicity of inputs, true 1080i/p, energy consumption, heat index, total weight, scaling support electronics, and the willingness of Westinghouse to support serial returns if there are defects. Although I'm not sanguine about ordering a 3+ meter delicate panel 2500 miles away from Hollywood, I went with Crutchfield based upon their reputation, level of customer support, return policy and the fact they had these in numbers.

There are a number of tests we perform on monitors to keep them up to calibration. When we get it I'll let you know what we think.
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I've been following the chatter about the 42" Westinghouse for a while. Also have a 42" and 50" Panasonic 8uk for client monitoring at our studio where we do professional HD color grading and digital intermediates. Some of our clients are New Line Cinema, Fox, Discovery, Universal, Lion's Gate, so we're exceptionally picky about colorimetry characteristics. To compare anything to the Panasonic Plasmas is sensible--although a picture distribution medium altogether--considering the professional level of control over picture quality and the picture quality itself.

After months of handwringing research, we decided on the 47" model versus a 50" plasma of lesser cost and better viewing angle, because of the multiplicity of inputs, true 1080i/p, energy consumption, heat index, total weight, scaling support electronics, and the willingness of Westinghouse to support serial returns if there are defects. Although I'm not sanguine about ordering a 3+ meter delicate panel 2500 miles away from Hollywood, I went with Crutchfield based upon their reputation, level of customer support, return policy and the fact they had these in numbers.

There are a number of tests we perform on monitors to keep them up to calibration. When we get it I'll let you know what we think.


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[EDIT] Coupled with the fact that there don't appear to be any exclusive hands-on previews of this puppy anywhere, I've got to suspect that the unit is riddled with serious problems. Major bummer if that's true :-(

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I think that's making a pretty big assumption. I just looks like J&R is keeping the pricing in line with the 37w3 and 42w2 models. Let's wait till either people start getting their units or reviews come out to say there are problems.

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Mine's scheduled for delivery Wed AM. Can't wait...
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I think that is now the street price. I'm pretty sure BB will price it around there once in stock. Now the question is, should I wait little longer for additional $300 to $400 off, or just get one at that price and hope to get price mathed at later time.

If this turns out to be near the price BB offers, I highly doubt there will be any large reductions for a long time....how much lower could a 47" 1080p go for? There might be an occassional 10% off tv's sale, maybe 15% for Thanksgiving, but I just can't see much more than that. [EDIT]
I'm gonna wait to read a few first hand reviews, but I'm not expecting many issues now that lock ups have been solved. There isn't really much comparable out there anyway aside from the 46" 1080p Samsung about to come out. Seems the 1080p Samsungs are having their own issues as well though, so I don't see many reasons for me to take my sites off the Westinghouse.
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Mine's scheduled for delivery Wed AM. Can't wait...

From J&R? Mine is still "Processing."

Edit: Ahh, nevermind. I see you bought from Crutchfield.
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The 47" 1080p Westy is intriguing, however, I'm not going to buy one sight unseen. I've read here that BB will not be showing them, so, any suggestions where I could view one in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area - probably nowhere yet, but, will someone have them on display soon?
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Well a lot of the info we've gotten from BB has proven to be wrong so I'd imagine there is a pretty good chance of them putting the 47" on display.
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