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post #271 of 7819 Old 07-03-2006, 03:01 AM
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What do you guys think based on the released specs might give the XBR2/3 the edge (other than the size)?

The specs are not useful, so I would say if I am not getting a xbr, I'd probably get a Samsung instead of Sharp. I gave Sharp many chances, but always I notice slight signal noise with HD source.
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The specs are not useful, so I would say if I am not getting a xbr, I'd probably get a Samsung instead of Sharp. I gave Sharp many chances, but always I notice slight signal noise with HD source.

Yeah, but at this point all we have to go by are the specs for the XBR2/3.
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Does anyone know how wide the 40" and 46" panels are?

Plan on hanging on MBR wall and wife is giving me a hard time about size. She's concerned too large will overwhelm the wall (103") and room. Viewing distance will be about 10'

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Does anyone know how wide the 40" and 46" panels are?

Plan on hanging on MBR wall and wife is giving me a hard time about size. She's concerned too large will overwhelm the wall (103") and room. Viewing distance will be about 10'

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go here for all the specs www.sony.com/2006tv

10' distance is way out of range for these tv's
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go here for all the specs www.sony.com/2006tv

10' distance is way out of range for these tv's


Out of range how? Too far away?
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Out of range how? Too far away?

yes, we went threw this already in this thread a few times already. the max distance for the 46" is 6ft and 40" is 5.2ft
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I would imagine that from further than 6ft the 46" would still be very watchable. Of course with the higher resolution you can sit closer, but I wouldn't say that the tv is useless past 6ft. The end result will be user preference anyways.
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I would imagine that from further than 6ft the 46" would still be very watchable. Of course with the higher resolution you can sit closer, but I wouldn't say that the tv is useless past 6ft. The end result will be user preference anyways.

Of course it will be watchable and then some. To think the maximum distance for viewing a 46" is 6" is simply ridiculous. Most people buying these sets will be people with money putting them in rooms with viewing distances far greater than 6 feet. Will there be any percieved resolution distance furhter than 6' STILL remains to be seen. It's a question of spending the extra money on resolution that may or may not be seen at those distances. Regardless, it will look awesome.
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Of course it will be watchable and then some. To think the maximum distance for viewing a 46" is 6" is simply ridiculous. Most people buying these sets will be people with money putting them in rooms with viewing distances far greater than 6 feet. Will there be any percieved resolution distance furhter than 6' STILL remains to be seen. It's a question of spending the extra money on resolution that may or may not be seen at those distances. Regardless, it will look awesome.


My thoughts exactly. Resolution is resolution, but we won't know the entire story until these sets start hitting stores. Until then, alot of things are just speculation.
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Appreciate the feedback, guys.

I was ready to printout the "46 is way out of range..." response to show the wife (naturally, I want as big as possible!) until I saw some of the other replies diluting that theory, which would've elicited an immediate "See? I told you we don't need that big of a screen!!!" from her.

I think the best thing to do now is wait until the models are actually here..then we'll (wife and I) restart the argument then.
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Think it really depends on your viewing habits in the bedroom. Are you watching 10 minutes while you fall asleep - or are you spending the whole evening watching long movies? I'm in the former category - so 26" is plenty big for me. Robyn
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so that's what mbr means , if you only watch sd in your bedroom then go right ahead and get one of these, hd will be useless at this distance even if you get the 46". if you only watch tv in your bedroom for maybe an hour or so then why spend so much on a tv.
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Can you pl. explain one more time - about the max. distance?

"yes, we went threw this already in this thread a few times already. the max distance for the 46" is 6ft and 40" is 5.2ft"

Does it mean that - if I am sitting more than 6ft way from a 46" tv, it doesn't matter whether
the tv is 1080p or 720p? Our eyes will not be able to make a difference in the picture quality.

Is the formula right? max distance = 2.5 * size of the screen size?
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Is the formula right? max distance = 2.5 * size of the screen size?

With 20/20 vision you can see detail wich size is 1 arc minute of you FoV.
If you don't care about pixels, but more about real details in natural picture you can multiply the distance by 1.33 because of Kell factor.

And then you have optimal distance. Not minimum or maximum.
If you go closer, you start so see pixels and if you go farther you start to loose details.

It all depends on how good vision you have.
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when you get the tv make sure you check for dead pixels before you hook anything up. then depending on the store policy you have weeks to maybe months to return the tv.

1) How do you check for dead pixels.

2) The XBR3's....will they go for $5,000 OR do you think you could find them cheaper at various on-line sites?
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1) How do you check for dead pixels.

2) The XBR3's....will they go for $5,000 OR do you think you could find them cheaper at various on-line sites?

put the tv in a un-used input and get up close and start looking.

these tv's might cost less when they are actually released. i always buy my components in stores never online.
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^^^ regarding dead pixels, if you don't see one, than why bother looking for something that's probably not there? And if there is one, do you really want to get up close and actually find it? Why bother. It's like looking for trouble.
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put the tv in a un-used input and get up close and start looking.

these tv's might cost less when they are actually released. i always buy my components in stores never online.

You ever buy an expensive tv from one of the thousands of places on line?
They are a lot cheaper than Best Buy, Circuit City type places, but seem shady.
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I apologize if this sounds dumb BUT whats the deal with the "floating glass"?
Whats the point? Just for the look of it?
Is it just a glass covering?
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So is the v2500 replacing the s2000 .
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^^^ regarding dead pixels, if you don't see one, than why bother looking for something that's probably not there? And if there is one, do you really want to get up close and actually find it? Why bother. It's like looking for trouble.

i will always check for dead pixels and a few other things before i throw anything away.
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You ever buy an expensive tv from one of the thousands of places on line?
They are a lot cheaper than Best Buy, Circuit City type places, but seem shady.

cheaper yes but i would only buy electronics from my local high end shop.
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I apologize if this sounds dumb BUT whats the deal with the "floating glass"?
Whats the point? Just for the look of it?
Is it just a glass covering?

yes for looks, if you have red bezel around the tv and a red wall behind the tv it will look like it is floating.
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So is the v2500 replacing the s2000 .

no
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So is the v2500 replacing the s2000 .

No. They are from a different range and the V-Series models are not intended as replacements for the S, U or X Series.

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if you have red bezel around the tv and a red wall behind the tv it will look like it is floating.
no

I've got a yellowish wall but I suppose it would be easy enough to paint these bezels any color. Not that I really need to pimp out my living room.
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I've got a yellowish wall but I suppose it would be easy enough to paint these bezels any color. Not that I really need to pimp out my living room.

i don't think you would want to paint them because you will never get paint in all of the small holes. the bezels have the colors in the plastic, they are not painted.
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Oh well, guess I won't bother with the black light then either
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So I've read this whole thread and I just wanted to confirm the $300 difference between the two.

XBR3 - Glossy Black, includes matching stand, and possibly better speakers
XBR2 - non-glossy selectable color, matching stand NOT included

Anything else? This would imply that the pictures/video quality is exactly the same and primarily just aesthetics.
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So I've read this whole thread and I just wanted to confirm the $300 difference between the two.

XBR3 - Glossy Black, includes matching stand, and possibly better speakers
XBR2 - non-glossy selectable color, matching stand NOT included

Anything else? This would imply that the pictures/video quality is exactly the same and primarily just aesthetics.

Yes
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18 month warranty on xbr3's and 12 month on xbr2's i believe
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So I've read this whole thread and I just wanted to confirm the $300 difference between the two.

XBR3 - Glossy Black, includes matching stand, and possibly better speakers
XBR2 - non-glossy selectable color, matching stand NOT included

Anything else? This would imply that the pictures/video quality is exactly the same and primarily just aesthetics.

yes and no.
xbr3-high gloss piano finish with matching stand and a black remote.
xbr2- silver matte bezel with matching silver stand with a silver remote.
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