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This thread is for discussion of Sharp's new Aquos D62 models to be released in fall 2006. (For discussion of the D40/D50/D90 models released in spring 2006, go here.)

Sharp press release (8/31/06)

LC-46D62U (46-inch) and LC-52D62U (52-inch)
Resolution: 1920x1080
Panel source: Kameyama No. 2 plant, Japan
Assembly: Rosarito, Mexico
4-wavelength backlight
Contrast ratio: 2000:1 "native," 10,000:1 dynamic
Viewing angle: 176 degrees
Response time: 4 ms in "Fine Motion Mode"; otherwise 6 ms
Tuners: ATSC, NTSC, QAM (No CableCard)
Inputs: HDMI (2, 1080p-capable), component (2), S-Video (1), composite (3)
Cabinet: Piano (gloss) black
Built-in speakers: 15 watts per channel
Available: October 2006
MSRP: $3,299 (46-inch), $4,499 (52-inch)

Sharp press release (9/14/06)

LC-42D62U (42-inch)
Resolution: 1920x1080
Panel source: Unknown
Assembly: Rosarito, Mexico
3-wavelength backlight
Contrast ratio: 1200:1
Viewing angle: 176 degrees
Response time: 6 ms
Tuners: ATSC, NTSC, QAM (No CableCard)
Inputs: HDMI (2, 1080p-capable), component (2), S-Video (1), composite (3)
Cabinet: Piano (gloss) black
Built-in speakers: 10 watts per channel
Available: October 2006
MSRP: $2,299

Some answers to frequently asked D62 questions (thanks Mike53):
-- HDMI is version 1.2 and allows digital PC interface. HDMI 1.3 will be coming in 2007.
-- Supports 1:1 pixel mapping (dot by dot)
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(Note: Earlier a 42-inch model LC-42D62U with somewhat lesser specs appeared on some online retail sites. However, this model was not announced by Sharp yesterday. If it is announced later I will add the specs here.)

http://news.digitaltrends.com/article11206.html (This news item pretty much confirms that the 42" model either won't be released by Sharp in the States or will not be lumped together with its far-superior 46" and 52" counterparts).
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For maximum flexibility, the series includes dual HDMI inputs that are compatible with 1080p signals from Blu-Ray and advanced gaming devices and two HD component video inputs.

This is from the Sharp Press release. Notice that it says "advanced gaming devices"? Does the X360 use a HDMI? I am really not a gamer, so I don't know if it does, or the upcoming Wii from Nintendo.

But the PS3 does have a HDMI out. After reading allot of hype about it, it is supposed to be 1.3. Now I am sure that a 1.3 feed will work with a 1.2 input, afterall if it isn't backward compatible, the public will have a fit, but since this is thrown in there could the inputs be 1.3?

My idle speculation only, I also believe in UFO's, Crop Circles, black helicopters and the second gunman on the grassy knoll.
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Anyone have any inside scoop as to when these might be hitting store shelves in the U.S? The 46in sounds like it might give the Sony and Samsung 1080p displays a good run for the money. The Sharp seems to be coming in at a significanly lower msrp compared to the Sony XBR2-3 series.
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http://news.digitaltrends.com/article11206.html (This news item pretty much confirms that the 42" model either won't be released by Sharp in the States or will not be lumped together with its far-superior 46" and 52" counterparts).

I'm curious about the how the "inferior" 42" model will compare with the current 37D90U. I imagine it couldn't possibly have lesser specs (with exception of the missing DVI). If Sharp is implying it will not be as good as the 46" and 52", that might be acceptable depending on what improvements have been made.
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Just in time for Christmas, when the wife and I are hoping to get our first flat panel! Should provide good competition for the 46" Samsung/Sony panels.

One thing though... What is the deal with massive amounts of craptastic composite inputs on our state-of-the-art HD displays? Just give me one as a just in case. I like clean, and jamming composite inputs on the back of a television just to increase the total number of inputs is NOT clean. I'd be more than happy with a 6-input television...

1 x PC (preferrably DVI)
2 x HDMI
2 x Component
1 x S-video/Composite (shared)
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This is from the Sharp Press release. Notice that it says "advanced gaming devices"? Does the X360 use a HDMI? I am really not a gamer, so I don't know if it does, or the upcoming Wii from Nintendo.

But the PS3 does have a HDMI out. After reading allot of hype about it, it is supposed to be 1.3. Now I am sure that a 1.3 feed will work with a 1.2 input, afterall if it isn't backward compatible, the public will have a fit, but since this is thrown in there could the inputs be 1.3?

My idle speculation only, I also believe in UFO's, Crop Circles, black helicopters and the second gunman on the grassy knoll.

Answers to your questions: Neither XBox 360 nor the Nintendo Wii use HDMI. The press release is referring to the PS3. HDMI 1.3 is backwards compatible with 1.2, there is an official HDMI webpage out there (Google it) that confirms this. As a result, Sharp's mention of the "advanced gaming devices" doesn't necessarily mean the tvs will be HDMI 1.3, only that they will support HDMI connectivity.

However, my opinion is that if Sharp knew conclusively whether the tvs would be 1.2 or 1.3, they would include it in the spec sheets. What other purpose could there be for not announcing it? We all know that 1.3 is very close for the industry, so it's not unreasonable to think that Sharp is trying desperately to add it to these tvs. They know if they do that they will "seal the deal" with people on the fence with Sharp, Sony and Samsung. The specs announced yesterday sound pretty good, but if you add HDMI 1.3 I won't even think twice about getting the Sharp 46" over the Sony.
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I know the new 46 and 52 inch panels were just announced, but does anyone know anything regarding if these new Sharp panels would be sold at B&M stores like Best Buy (with or without a Magnolia Home Theatre Section) or Circuit City when they are released later this fall???
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I know the new 46 and 52 inch panels were just announced, but does anyone know anything regarding if these new Sharp panels would be sold at B&M stores like Best Buy (with or without a Magnolia Home Theatre Section) or Circuit City when they are released later this fall???

They will be sold everywhere! LC42D62U included. All in their piano gloss black finish with 2 HDMI, no DVI. HDMI version not confirmed but probably not 1.3. Anything other than PS3 with HDMI 1.3 is scheduled for 2007.

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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Any knowledge about 1:1 from a PC over HDMI Mike53?
I assuming it will be ok, but you never know.

And why no VGA port?
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They will be sold everywhere! LC42D62U included. All in their piano gloss black finish with 2 HDMI, no DVI. HDMI version not confirmed but probably not 1.3. Anything other than PS3 with HDMI 1.3 is scheduled for 2007.

Welcome back Mike53! You have now welcomed months of daily questions from Sharp fans, but I'm sure you're used to it by now. So, back to work. You already answered two of the most pressing questions about these new tvs, but can you give us a more specific release date (early, mid, late October)? Thanks again. We're excited to have you back.
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Any knowledge about 1:1 from a PC over HDMI Mike53?
I assuming it will be ok, but you never know.

And why no VGA port?

Understandable if there is no DVI. But, why no DVI? That's a better question. Keeping it simple perhaps.
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I see HDMI and DVI in the same light. Both digital inputs, I'm looking for a VGA input. I guess you could say composite and VGA are the same. But if you can't do 1920X1080 over composite then they really are not.
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Better the bezel/frame be gloss black where it's simply a major distraction, as opposed to the screen itself where it interferes with the actual picture. But I agree, flat/satin black would have been a much better choice. I don't understand it either but there is a substantial amount of people who think shiny black plastic looks "rich" I guess...

Mike, I see that the wording in the press release regarding the contrast ratios is a little "interesting" and could be taken in different ways. Do you happen to know if the 2000:1 "native" ratio is measured without any of the black enhancement features on or not? If that is truly a flat ratio measured without any of the enhancement gimmicks on I will be very interested to see how it looks. I'd have to say pretty much a milestone if it is...

Edit: So a couple posts were removed and now it seems like I'm just talking to myself here I guess... That'll teach me to always quote in the reply.



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They will be sold everywhere! LC42D62U included. All in their piano gloss black finish with 2 HDMI, no DVI. HDMI version not confirmed but probably not 1.3. Anything other than PS3 with HDMI 1.3 is scheduled for 2007.

Glad to have you back, Mike!

I was wondering if you can provide any details on how the 42" will differ from the 46" and 52", aside from a later release date.
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I see HDMI and DVI in the same light. Both digital inputs, I'm looking for a VGA input. I guess you could say composite and VGA are the same. But if you can't do 1920X1080 over composite then they really are not.

Actually, VGA is more closely related to component than composite. It is possible to obtain a VGA-to-component adapter that should work nicely. The same could be said for DVI, but I have yet to see a VGA-HDMI adapter.
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I'm curious about the how the "inferior" 42" model will compare with the current 37D90U. I imagine it couldn't possibly have lesser specs (with exception of the missing DVI). If Sharp is implying it will not be as good as the 46" and 52", that might be acceptable depending on what improvements have been made.

From the initial specs that appeared for the 42d62u, it would appear that it does indeed have lesser specs than the 37d90u. d90 has 6ms, d62 has 8 ms, d90 has 4-wavelength backlight, d62 has 3-wavelength, d90 has Sharp-made panel, d62 most-likely has outsourced panel, d90 has DVI, d62 doesn't, etc, etc. The 46/52 inch d62 do have great specs though that the 42" lacks.
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From the initial specs that appeared for the 42d62u, it would appear that it does indeed have lesser specs than the 37d90u. d90 has 6ms, d62 has 8 ms, d90 has 4-wavelength backlight, d62 has 3-wavelength, d90 has Sharp-made panel, d62 most-likely has outsourced panel, d90 has DVI, d62 doesn't, etc, etc. The 46/52 inch d62 do have great specs though that the 42" lacks.

What a bummer. I was very geared up for the 37" but I was later thinking it might be too small to appreciate 1080p on, so I was naturally excited to hear about the 42" model but that excitement has now faded.

46" will be pushing the size limitations for me, unfortunately.
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About the likely absence of HDMI 1.3, I may still get one of these depending on the reviews (and i trust owner reviews here rather than stupid cnet...ok end of rant).

I guess that the other surprises (4ms RT and 10000:1 DCR) make up for the lack of this TV being totally (i stress totally) future ready.
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Since Mike53 has confirmed the 42D62U is coming, I will add the specs to the first post of this thread -- specs from a Sharp spec sheet I downloaded from an online retailer.
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They will be sold everywhere! LC42D62U included. All in their piano gloss black finish with 2 HDMI, no DVI. HDMI version not confirmed but probably not 1.3. Anything other than PS3 with HDMI 1.3 is scheduled for 2007.

Thanks Mike.

When some more info is out about the HDMI version or info on the LC42D62U drop in and leave some more info.

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What a bummer. I was very geared up for the 37" but I was later thinking it might be too small to appreciate 1080p on, so I was naturally excited to hear about the 42" model but that excitement has now faded.

46" will be pushing the size limitations for me, unfortunately.

same situation here, why did they have to nerf the 42" U.S. version. It makes no sense since the 42" Japanese version has the specs identical to the 46"/52" U.S. version (different styling though). What gives?!
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Any word on the refresh rates of these monitors? I would love to see them being able to handle 24fps or 120fps. 120 would be ideal since movies would be 24x5 and regular 60x2.
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Yea Im suprised by it not being 120hz. I also love the model numbers, D62? This is above the D90, but th D40 is below the D90? LOL how the hell do they come up with such random and confusing numbers. retards

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Man, just when you think your buying decision might be getting easier, another contender comes along.

I wonder how this 52" will compare to the PQ on the Sammy 57" LCD?

D62U PDF brochure attached.

 

D62U spec sheet Aug06.pdf 255.232421875k . file
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Maybe the really nice goodies (DVI/VGA input, HDMI 1.3, etc.) will be included in the higher end D92 series, which we won't see until 2007 in my opinion, unless Sharp wants to get in the Christmas 2006 business. If I remember correctly, the new models announcement (Japanese release) said 6 new models, not 3, so maybe that means the D92 series in 42, 46 and 52 inches...

Ain't speculation great
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Maybe the really nice goodies (DVI/VGA input, HDMI 1.3, etc.) will be included in the higher end D92 series, which we won't see until 2007 in my opinion, unless Sharp wants to get in the Christmas 2006 business. If I remember correctly, the new models announcement (Japanese release) said 6 new models, not 3, so maybe that means the D92 series in 42, 46 and 52 inches...

The report I saw says that the 6 Japanese models are all D62 equivalents, but each of the three sizes has side-speaker and bottom-speaker models.
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So, let me get this straight: 1080p input will just be through either of the two hdmi's? There's no specs for the component, so we can figure it's limited to 720p and 1080i? And, no vga. Then the question is: will these do full (1-1) 1920 x 1080 pixel mapping through hdmi? If so, these are contenders to the Sony 1080p's. If not, then not.

The Sony XBR2/3's have 3 hdmi's allowing full 1-1 1080p and a vga that also allows 1920 x 1080 @ 60. The to be released Sony V2500's have only 2 hdmi's (should also allow the same 1080p 1-1, but needs to be confirmed) and no 1080p vga.

I don't know why manufacturers are so stingy w/ inputs. And, shiny piano black only appeals to a less than majority (I did a poll here!)... a flat or matte black would work well for most of us. I can't do shiny piano black and the lack of more input options don't make these sets appealing to me (despite the better response time -- it's processing that causes more problems anyway).
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What bothers me more than a lack of inputs on a TV is the lack of inputs on a high-end AV receiver.
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Man, just when you think your buying decision might be getting easier, another contender comes along.

I wonder how this 52" will compare to the PQ on the Sammy 57" LCD?

D62U PDF brochure attached.

Interesting how that D62U brochure only shows 1500:1 contrast ratio and 6ms response time. That 1500:1 sounds more likely to be the real ratio without any enhancements to me. I'd love to be wrong though.


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