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Anyone know what this is? I was going to buy a 32w6; is this newer? It has 1200 contrast where the w6 has 1000??

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I got the same questions, check out this other thread...

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For reasons passing understanding the thread you've listed above seems to have been deleted. I had some interest in that thread, especially since it happens to be one of about four google results for the query [westinghouse w3213]
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Anyone know what this is? I was going to buy a 32w6; is this newer? It has 1200 contrast where the w6 has 1000??

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I tried finding it at the westinghouse website but no such luck.
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Hey folks. My wife and I were considering picking this TV up, but I had a few very newbish questions about HDTV since it's all new to me. If someone willing to share some info with me could drop me a PM, I'd very much appreciate it.
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I wonder if this 32w13 is a Best Buy exclusive . . It is a 720p set, not an 1080p.

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I can't find any information on it, besides what is on the BB website.
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odd that spec wise it looks better than the 32W6, yet it costs less. guess a lot of us are thinking about picking this up next Friday. looks like a nice bedroom set at a solid price.
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Went in store, and PQ didn't look great compared to the others, but I am wondering if the settings were wrong, the TV was in widescreen mode with the horizontal bars, while most of the others that looked much better were showing the feed in their entire screen (and TV was too high to play around with the settings)

I'll try another Best Buy in the coming days
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Went in store, and PQ didn't look great compared to the others, but I am wondering if the settings were wrong, the TV was in widescreen mode with the horizontal bars, while most of the others that looked much better were showing the feed in their entire screen (and TV was too high to play around with the settings)

I'll try another Best Buy in the coming days

I went to a Best Buy and noticed the same thing. The PQ was horrible. It had to be bad settings/feed, though. No HDTV could look THAT bad.
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Yeah, at my Best Buy the TV was in the section with the SDTVs, and was receiving the SDTV feed (hence the squished image another poster reported).

I'm hoping somebody here knows what the equivalent model # of this set is (assuming there is one). Best Buy always gets these proprietary model #s to avoid price matching.
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odd that spec wise it looks better than the 32W6, yet it costs less. guess a lot of us are thinking about picking this up next Friday. looks like a nice bedroom set at a solid price.

so I want to buy the (w13) , but Im confused about the specs on the W32w13 vs the W32w6 model. The w13 model has 6.5ms refresh, the w6 has 8ms, which is better?

also wondering about the contrast ratios, the w6 has 1000:1 and w13 has 1200:1, again which is better?

I plan on using the tv for Xbox360 gaming and PS3 in the future as well as sports, will this TV be good enough? I'm in college and want an HDTV but dont have a ton of money right now. I have looked at the w6 in Best Buy and cant really tell a difference between it and other 32s. What do you guys think?
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6.5ms would be better, and technically the 1200:1 contast ratio is better, but it would be very hard for the average watcher to tell the difference between that.
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so I want to buy the $479 model (w13) on black friday, but Im confused about the specs on the W32w13 vs the W32w6 model. The w13 model has 6.5ms refresh, the w6 has 8ms, which is better?

also wondering about the contrast ratios, the w6 has 1000:1 and w13 has 1200:1, again which is better?

I plan on using the tv for Xbox360 gaming and PS3 in the future as well as sports, will this TV be good enough? I'm in college and want an HDTV but dont have a ton of money right now. I have looked at the w6 in Best Buy and cant really tell a difference between it and other 32s. What do you guys think?

The w13 is better. You want lower refresh rates and higher contrast ratio. And it has an HDMI/Component input for your PS3 and VGA/Component for your 360.
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I wonder why it has better specs than the more expensive one. Anyone have this tv ?
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I went to BB to check out the 32W13 yesterday. They had about 15 in stock, but unfortunately the display unit was on an end cap, not on the wall along with the rest of the lcds. That wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't connected to a video feed with a composite connection. The picture was obviously garbage. Apparently it will be replacing the 32W6 which looked decent...no it couldn't really compete against the Sharp Aquos's or the Sony Bravia's, but they both cost twice the price. It was definitely not the worst of the 32" lcd models on display. The salesperson told me they have a 30 day return policy with no restocking fee, as well as 30 day price protection feature
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There was some confusion as the the inputs on this TV (mainly caused by misinformation on BestBuy's website) so I went straight to the source and called Westinghouse Digital since they don't list the television anywhere on their website. Their CSR was extremely helpful.
1 HDMI-HDCP input with L/R Audio
1 VGA/D-Sub input with PC Audio
2 Component inputs with L/R audio
1 Composite input with L/R Audio
1 S-Video input with L/R Audio
ATSC over the air tuner
QAM tuner for receiving unscrambled digital channels from your local cable company.
1 SPDIF optical audio out for 5.1 surround sound

With the faster response time (6.5ms) and higher contrast ratio (1200:1), this TV seems every which way equal to or better than the W6 it replaces. According to a poster on slickdeals who already owns the TV, it also comes with USB input (hopefully for firmware updates!) All in all, it seems like a good upgrade from the W6.
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Wow, thanks for the specs!

I am really thinking about camping out and getting this TV. I purchased the 32w6 about two weeks ago for $610, and I was already considering returning it because I wasn't happy with the refresh rate on video games and the 480i/480p blurring thing really bugs me. Now I'm wondering if I should test out this TV in the store and see if it would be worth the effort of camping out at BestBuy.

The 32w6 was my first HDTV and I've learned so much these last two weeks. I just can't get over the blurring effect on motion in 480p mode tho... I have no idea if this is normal with HDTV's or if it's just the 32w6, but in general I was pretty happy with the quality of the 32w6. I can only assume the 32w13 would be even awesomer (and at a lower price!)
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Does it have a NTSC Tuner and a
ATSC Tuner
and Picture in Picture PIP/POP
Or does anyone know how it compars to the Visco 32(16:9) LCD TV VSC-32V1 [EDIT]
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Does the QAM Tuner means you can get OTA HD channels with an antenna? Also sorry if this is slightly off topic does anyone know a good time to camp out at Best Buy for one of these? Never done the camping out on black friday thing.
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Does the QAM Tuner means you can get OTA HD channels with an antenna?

QAM means you can watch unencrypted digital cable channels (including HD)without a cable box. The ATSC tuner the TV has means you can watch OTA HD channels. I didn't specifically ask for a NTSC tuner, but I would imagine it has one if the W6 had one since the inputs are the same.

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Also sorry if this is slightly off topic does anyone know a good time to camp out at Best Buy for one of these? Never done the camping out on black friday thing.

I'm going early, around 4pm or so, but only becaue I want to be sure to get that Sony 6.1 $199 receiver that is minimum 2 per store.
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Well, even though I've had a Sammy on my mind for the past 4 months, I think I might give this one a shot. Remember guys and gals, Best Buy is handing out tickets at 4AM and opening doors at 5AM!!!!! I'm planning on being there around 3AM myself.
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Wow, thanks for the specs!

I am really thinking about camping out and getting this TV. I purchased the 32w6 about two weeks ago for $610, and I was already considering returning it because I wasn't happy with the refresh rate on video games and the 480i/480p blurring thing really bugs me. Now I'm wondering if I should test out this TV in the store and see if it would be worth the effort of camping out at BestBuy.

The 32w6 was my first HDTV and I've learned so much these last two weeks. I just can't get over the blurring effect on motion in 480p mode tho... I have no idea if this is normal with HDTV's or if it's just the 32w6, but in general I was pretty happy with the quality of the 32w6. I can only assume the 32w13 would be even awesomer (and at a lower price!)

If you don't like the 32w6 i doubt you will be hapier with this model. You probably don't even see the difference.

I also have the 32w6 and use the TV only for gaming. 360 looks great on it, PS2 looks like crap without component cables. Black levels are far from perfect but thats nothing new for LCDs. Overall I think it is a great for gaming maybe not so much if only used for current gen consoles (Xbox/PS2/GC) but for 360 and PS3 this is a great low budget TV.
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Has the tickets at 4am been confirmed for all Best Buys?
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Has the tickets at 4am been confirmed for all Best Buys?

Yes.
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quick question:

i am getting this set for use with my xbox 360. does it support 1080i, which i believe is what the 360 outputs? i can't seem to find a list of resolutions it will support

also, how does the sale at bb work? do i have to get their the night before? or just early on that morning (3am ish?)
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most xbox games are in 720p, which is what it does.

anyone know what i should expect from this TV as far as regular, non-HD viewing goes?
i saw a no-name 15" LCD TV that was used on a ps2 demo, it looked horrible (like 240i, if it existed). and i mean horrible even compared to my $90 walmart CRT TV.
will the Westinghouse w3213 do 480i as well as a cheap CRT? (it'll be ps2 and regular cable through composite for a little while for me)
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so it won't even accept a 1080i signal?

is that much of a problem though? how does 720p compare to 1080i? better than 480i and 480p?

(i am upgrading from an Insignia 27" 4:3 crt tv that only did 480p and 1080i (i think)) is this a significant upgrade from that?
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quick question:

i am getting this set for use with my xbox 360. does it support 1080i, which i believe is what the 360 outputs? i can't seem to find a list of resolutions it will support

also, how does the sale at bb work? do i have to get their the night before? or just early on that morning (3am ish?)

The TV does accept 1080i, but it is native 720p(1366x768p).

The 360 will output 720p or 1080i thru component, and 768p(1360x768 or 1368x768) thru the VGA cable.

As far as waiting in line, it depends on the location. But I can tell you that anything after 12am on fri will be too late, so 3am wont work. I've seen people waiting for black friday deals as early as dinner time on Thanksgiving day.
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