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Hi guys... I've been lusting over Sharp and Sony LCDs for quite some time now. I was originally going to settle for a 32" or 37" TV but 32" is just too small for me as my primary TV. I'm looking at 40"-46"

The other day I was at Circuit City and I was watching this demo on a 40" Bravia V 1080p Sony. I must say, this was THE BEST picture I've ever seen on an HDTV, and I've seen a lot of them. However, people are saying the XBR2 and XBR3 versions are much better. I also did some research and found out that this 40" Bravia V 1080p set does NOT display 1080p with component or vga. This was a HUGE dissapointment to me, because as some of you know, the XBox 360 supports 1080p now, and the HD-DVD player does as well.

I'm hoping next year we will see Hdmi 1.3, 4 ms or faster response times, and most importantly this 120 hz chip everyone is talking about... is this a Samsung only deal for now? I would love to see 24 fps movies without the need for 3:2 reserve pulldown, and eventually video games 60 fps at 1080p. But does anyone have a date for the first panel that will include this 120 hz chip? And how will this effect the prices? I would like something $2,499.99 or less at 40"

Last but not least, will Bravia and/or XBR sets ever support 1080p via component and vga?

-Bryan
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Hi guys... I've been lusting over Sharp and Sony LCDs for quite some time now. I was originally going to settle for a 32" or 37" TV but 32" is just too small for me as my primary TV. I'm looking at 40"-46"

The other day I was at Circuit City and I was watching this demo on a 40" Bravia V 1080p Sony. I must say, this was THE BEST picture I've ever seen on an HDTV, and I've seen a lot of them. However, people are saying the XBR2 and XBR3 versions are much better. I also did some research and found out that this 40" Bravia V 1080p set does NOT display 1080p with component or vga. This was a HUGE dissapointment to me, because as some of you know, the XBox 360 supports 1080p now, and the HD-DVD player does as well.

I'm hoping next year we will see Hdmi 1.3, 4 ms or faster response times, and most importantly this 120 hz chip everyone is talking about... is this a Samsung only deal for now? I would love to see 24 fps movies without the need for 3:2 reserve pulldown, and eventually video games 60 fps at 1080p. But does anyone have a date for the first panel that will include this 120 hz chip? And how will this effect the prices? I would like something $2,499.99 or less at 40"

Last but not least, will Bravia and/or XBR sets ever support 1080p via component and vga?

-Bryan
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yes you can expect all that crap you listed from sharp, sony, and samsung. The Sharp should be out first around springtime. Sony and Samsung Fall.
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What about LED backlighting in a 52" set? Any idea when we can expect that? That's what I'm waiting for.
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pretty much all LCD manufacturers are experimenting with LED backlighting. Samsung already has a 40 LED but it won't be selling in the U.S. Sony released the Qualia 006 which received poor reviews and sold for over 10k and is now obsolete. I would say that maybe samsung may have something for next year but I doubt it. I think 2008 is definetely the year where LCD will switch from lamp to LED. But by 2008 SED the king of all TVs will be available and destroy LCD anyway. I vote for SED for 2008.
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animefx - You might consider buying a set now that will fit your needs in a non-primary location (i.e bedroom, game room, guest room). Use that set in your primary location for now and then next year or the year after when sets are out that fill your wish list, you could buy one and then rotate your sets around your home. Keep your budget in mind, don't overspend today because your dream set may come out next year. But, you will have something to watch today and something to move to a secondary location later. Good luck.
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But by 2008 SED the king of all TVs will be available and destroy LCD anyway. I vote for SED for 2008.
*snort* surely you jest?
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*snort* surely you jest?
He's been drinking the kool-aid too much. While SED will be a superior display technology it won't be in the living rooms of anybody who's shopping at current midsize flatpanel prices until well into the next decade. By then OLED will be contending as well.
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whateva. Talk to the hand. Where's Auditor55 when i need him? Mark my words: By 2008 you WILL own a SED tv and the price will only be 10 000 for a 55"
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I think 2008 is definetely the year where LCD will switch from lamp to LED. But by 2008 SED the king of all TVs will be available and destroy LCD anyway. I vote for SED for 2008.
LOL, gotta love it. By the time SED arrives we will all be debating 4K displays, not just 1080P.
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SED is going to have to be incredibly impressive to draw enough customers willing to drop $10K for a 55" set over what other technologies are offering. I keep wondering if SED technology is even going to produce enough revenue to keep the R&D engine running on it.

SED proponents had counted on plasma and LCD prices remaining high enough for their 1st gen sets to be at least in the price ballpark, but this isn't happening. I've heard rumors that some of the companies backing SED are thinking about pulling back on their investments.

Recent article on this subject:
http://www.tvtechnology.com/pages/s.0081/t.478.html
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SED looks incredibly impressive on paper, but there have been reports of flicker already... Yeah, I know those are prototype units. Still though, I thought that was what we were trying to get away from with CRTs?
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Thats true... I think a 32" could tide me over until my dream tv comes out late next year... I might look into getting an Olevia, although I missed out on a great newegg deal for a black 32" Sharp Aquos... doh!

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animefx - You might consider buying a set now that will fit your needs in a non-primary location (i.e bedroom, game room, guest room). Use that set in your primary location for now and then next year or the year after when sets are out that fill your wish list, you could buy one and then rotate your sets around your home. Keep your budget in mind, don't overspend today because your dream set may come out next year. But, you will have something to watch today and something to move to a secondary location later. Good luck.
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