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post #1 of 11 Old 12-08-2006, 05:50 AM - Thread Starter
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I will probably be returning a Sony SXRD RPTV due to bad response to the "silk screen" effect (Looks like a big smudge in the center of the screen).

Because all RPTVs have this side-effect to some extent, I am considering a flat panel. I know that the disadvantages to RPTVs are silk screen effect and smaller viewing angles and some have the screen door effect.

What are the disadvantages of LCD/plasma screens? I am hoping to stick with a 1080p set. I will probably be watching 1/4 SD TV, 1/4 HD TV, 1/4 DVDs and 1/4 games.

Thanks for any help!
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Just a quick summary for you....

LCD weakness:

- Black levels are weaker than plasma
- Some people say the color isnt as accurate, but the jury is still out on this
- Not the best off-axis viewing, picture gets washed out.

Plasma weakness:

- Less resolution per screen inch ( fewer pixels )
- Glare issues during anything other than dark-room viewing.
- Lower inherent brightness gives picture less "snap" than LCD

Really, they are both excellent choices and each of them have come a long way in masking their weaknesses and improving on their strengths. With your viewing itinerary, I would say LCD serves you best. For someone doing mostly movies, Plasma all day long.

Hope that helps....
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Thanks for the reply. I went to the store today for the first time after seeing the "Silk Screen effect" on my RPTV and now I can see it on any RPTV (DLP, LCOS, LCD RP).

I saw a Samsung LCD 1080p that seemed pretty nice. After a little more research, I may make the switch.

Is the responce time still a problem with the LCD models from this year?

How about burn in with today's plasmas?
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I have the exact same situation. I had a kdsr50xbr1 for a few weeks but once you see the SSE it's over so I returned it last night. Debated 768p plasma vs 1080p lcd for a long time and I give the overall nod to plasma considering viewing distance so I am picking up the pio 5070 hopefully soon.
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Sorry to hear about the return, but I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that sees this. I'll be checking out the options over the weekend. I hate to spend more money, but if I'm already spending a lot I want to have something I am unconditionally happy with. We watch a bunch of Disney movies and the bright colors of the Pixar movies just look terrible.
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Whoa! That's crazy because it is exactly what happened to me. The first movie that I put in to watch on my new sxrd using my new toshiba xa1 was The Incredibles and when the movie finally started I got..............bright sparkles all over the screen!!!!!!!!!!!! HUH??????????????

I am not an expert by any means but the things that S2Mikey had to say were pretty good and there are plenty more threads to read that go into excruciating detail. For my eyes the plasma almost always has a better image than an lcd and most people in this forum seem to agree. I have been comparing 1080p lcd's to 768p plasma's in the 50" range. At my viewing distance of about 8 feet the advantages of a 1080p lcd are not as great as the advantages you get with a 768p plasma that has overall better picture quality. But lcd is really catching up and you will probably be happy with either one.

In the end though you need to trust your own eyes. Don't be made to feel bad by some uber plasma pusher that you didn't get the snobbiest set out there.

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jedimastergrant, sparkles like you describe can be a symptom of a bad hdmi or component cable.

FWIW, I don't know if the forum overwhelmingly favors plasma, all you can really conclude from the various threads is that the strong plasma advocates seem to work harder on getting their opinions out there than their LCD counterparts:-) - DR
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In my case the "sparkles" are definately not a component cable issue. I tried upgrading the first day I saw them and it did not fix it. The screen texture is the problem for me. The marks are stationary and it looks like you went to a theater that had a cheap screen.
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You will clouds with Samsung/Sony LCD's, that is the downside! 65% chance.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=748779

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What about the Sharp LCDs? I have heard about some banding issues, but not all sets have the issue. Other than that, are they OK?

Do todays Plasmas still have burn in problems?
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