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Now that these sets are in the hands of a few folks, let's get a calibration thread going so we can get these sets tweaked.

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Contrast: 85
Brightness: 46
Color: 56
Tint: G50 / R50 (still experimenting with this one)
Sharpness: 15
Backlight: 5

Black Adjust: low
Dynamic Contrast: low
Gamma: 1

Everything else is pretty much set to defaults at this point, but that is only because I haven't figured out what all of the controls actually do.

NOTE: These settings were achieved from both Avia and DVE calibration DVDs. Hopefully, I will have the HD DVD of DVE in the next week or so to really get a good calibration going.

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Bless you!

Too bad all the previous cal. thread input cannot be transferred over mechanically.

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Hi everyone, I've had the 5265 since Thursday and have been very happy since we ordered it sight unseen (thanks to the great reviews in this thread)! For the past few days I have been tweaking the settings using recommendations in this thread, THX optimizer and my eye. I think I am going to pick up Avia also, but so far these are the settings I am most pleased with right now. Please remember I am a complete noob.

Mode=Movie
Contrast=85
Brightness=42
Sharpness=25 (15 for SD DirectTV)
Color=60 (50 for SD DirectTV)
Tint=G50-R50
Backlight=5
Tone=Warm1
Black Adjust=low
Dynamic Contrast=low
Gamma=-1
Color Space=Auto
White Balance=all 15
Color Control=all 15
Edge Enhancement=off
YvYcc=off

This is the settings i am using right now. pasted from the other thread.
seem to be a great start.

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Joph, it's good to hear that those settings are working out for you.

Bryan, now I remember where I got my initial settings from. Good work! Thank you for starting this thread and please keep us posted of any new tweaks.

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Anyone gone into the Service Menu of the 5265 to adjust/calibrate?
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Now that these sets are in the hands of a few folks, let's get a calibration thread going so we can get these sets tweaked.

Contrast: 85
Brightness: 46
Color: 56
Tint: G50 / R50 (still experimenting with this one)
Sharpness: 15
Backlight: 5

Black Adjust: low
Dynamic Contrast: low
Gamma: 1

Everything else is pretty much set to defaults at this point, but that is only because I haven't figured out what all of the controls actually do.

Bryan what set do you have? The calibration numbers are most likely going to be different between 61 and 65 series users. Moving forward everyone post what model you have.

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Hello everyone, here is my setting for SAMSUNG LNT 4665


Mode=Movie
Contrast=80
Brightness=36
Sharpness=55
Color=50

Backlight=7 FOR Bright color, 5 for dark color
Tone=Warm1 OR normal either one is great
Black Adjust=high
Dynamic Contrast=medium
Gamma=-1
Color Space=Auto
White Balance=all 15
Color Control=all 15
Edge Enhancement=ON
YvYcc=off


Conclusion: it's not a good idea move backlight bar all the way up, try 7 or 5 would be enough. Make sure do the adjustment in "Movie" mode, once it has been activated, there will be tons of selections. I dont perfer game mode. Any questions feel free pm me
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Bryan what set do you have? The calibration numbers are most likely going to be different between 61 and 65 series users. Moving forward everyone post what model they have.

Sorry, I have the 4661 set. I have updated my original posting with that info now. Thanks.

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Sorry, I have the 4661 set. I have updated my original posting with that info now. Thanks.

No problem, thanks for starting the thread!

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Here are my settings:

4661f

Picture Menu
Mode: Standard
Contrast: 88
Brightness: 44
Sharpness: 42
Color: 52
Tint: G50 / R50
Backlight: 5
Color Tone: Normal
Digital NR: off
DNie: off
Dynamic Contrast: off
Film: off


Settings Menu
Game Mode: off
HDMI Black level: low
Energy Saving: off


*these settings are for HDMI
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Hello - I picked up a 5265 this weekend. My settings have been all over the board as I tweak randomly - so this is a great thread to compare to. I will post what I am using once I get things squared away a bit more.

One thing I did notice - when I set backlight to 7, it is actually brighter than 8!! Anyone else experience this on their sets?

I also am having some weird HDMI issues with the far left/right edges being brighter than the center. Wonder if I have an issue with my set...
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Hello - I picked up a 5265 this weekend. My settings have been all over the board as I tweak randomly - so this is a great thread to compare to. I will post what I am using once I get things squared away a bit more.

One thing I did notice - when I set backlight to 7, it is actually brighter than 8!! Anyone else experience this on their sets?

I also am having some weird HDMI issues with the far left/right edges being brighter than the center. Wonder if I have an issue with my set...

its a 3 bulb setup up so I would reduce your backlight until it looks black but not too dark and then adjust the Gamma(center brightness) to match. I recommend also setting your HDMI black level to low.
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Hello - I picked up a 5265 this weekend. My settings have been all over the board as I tweak randomly - so this is a great thread to compare to. I will post what I am using once I get things squared away a bit more.

One thing I did notice - when I set backlight to 7, it is actually brighter than 8!! Anyone else experience this on their sets?

I also am having some weird HDMI issues with the far left/right edges being brighter than the center. Wonder if I have an issue with my set...

If I crank up the backlight, I see this as well. With my backlight on 4 or 5, it is uniform across the screen and perfect.

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its a 3 bulb setup up so I would reduce your backlight until it looks black but not too dark and then adjust the Gamma(center brightness) to match. I recommend also setting your HDMI black level to low.

OH, so THAT is what gamma is for! I had no idea what the heck that actually did so I am really glad you posted this!

If I plug my macbook in to HDMI 3, I get the choice of changing the HDMI black level. If I remove the macbook, the option stays greyed out (eventhough I have an hd tivo and hd dvd hooked up hdmi to ports 1 and 2).

So, I plugged my macbook in and changed it That setting seems to be universal and not specific to each input. I guess that is why it is in the setup menu

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Would you recommend calibrating the TV with test patterns that are being displayed at 480p? I'm using my PS3 as the only device connected through HDMI. I have a 360, but that is going through VGA.

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I would assume that you would want to run any test pattern at the TV's native resolution 1920x1080p.
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Here are my settings for the 4661:
Mode - standard
Con - 80
Bright - 40
Sharp - 25
Color - 52
Tint - 50/50
Backlight - 5
DNIe - on
Digital NR - off
Color tone - normal
Black adjust - off
Dynamic con - low
Gamma - 1
Color space - wide
Edge Enh - off
Energy saving - auto
hdmi black level - low

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Joph, it's good to hear that those settings are working out for you.

Bryan, now I remember where I got my initial settings from. Good work! Thank you for starting this thread and please keep us posted of any new tweaks.

i was watching the ncaa champ game last night and i had to switch to the dynamic defualt settings. the players didnt look right in HD with it.

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I thought all the NCAA games looked a little "off". Everything else I have watched looks incredible.

Ohio State uniforms last night looked "pinkish" instead of "redish". I'm sure with some more tweaks, I can get that ironed out as well.

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anyone have setting for the 4061F?

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I thought all the NCAA games looked a little "off". Everything else I have watched looks incredible.

Ohio State uniforms last night looked "pinkish" instead of "redish". I'm sure with some more tweaks, I can get that ironed out as well.

Bryan, it's important to remember that many factors can affect the perceived colors on your panel. In the case above, I'm pretty sure it was the bluish lights in the stadium that made the shirts look pink (I too noticed this on my Dell 2005FPW with Dvico PC tuner card). A calibration disk is essential for establishing overall balanced color on these LCD's, otherwise you would be correcting forever. As I was a Macintosh color operator for many years, I know very well the calibration game. You can never get everything "just right".

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Yeah, I have run both Avia and DVE on my set to come up with the settings I have currently. The uniforms were pink on my LCD in the bedroom as well, so I wasn't too concerned about it.

The guy that did my calibration on my last TV has a 6 month waiting period, so it will be a while until I get it "perfect".

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anyone have setting for the 4061F?

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It should be pretty much the same as the 4661F setting already posted here!
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I thought all the NCAA games looked a little "off". Everything else I have watched looks incredible.

Ohio State uniforms last night looked "pinkish" instead of "redish". I'm sure with some more tweaks, I can get that ironed out as well.


I felt the same way last night. The game was pretty poorly done by CBS. There is a thread in the HDTV programming section - a lot of folks were unhappy with the quality of the broadcast last night. I mean - those floor cams for free throws were WAY off (pink) compared to the others!!! Really poor work on the part of CBS for such a big broadcast.
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I felt the same way last night. The game was pretty poorly done by CBS. There is a thread in the HDTV programming section - a lot of folks were unhappy with the quality of the broadcast last night. I mean - those floor cams for free throws were WAY off (pink) compared to the others!!! Really poor work on the part of CBS for such a big broadcast.

Again, it wasn't anyones fault. Those HD cameras are calibrated to provide balanced color...if they changed the settings so the shirts were "accurate", it would throw off the other calibrated colors. The point is that lighting (incandescent, tungsten, fluorescent, etc.) can throw off colors in a scene. That is why professional photographers use special color filters (non-photoshoppers anyway) to counter the effects of different light sources. No way CBS or other networks are going to recalibrate for every event because this just doesn't work. I know color is a complex subject but I have spent many years in this field and I am very familiar with the nuances and shortcomings. Hope this helps.
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Again, it wasn't anyones fault. Those HD cameras are calibrated to provide balanced color...if they changed the settings so the shirts were "accurate", it would throw off the other calibrated colors. The point is that lighting (incandescent, tungsten, fluorescent, etc.) can throw off colors in a scene. That is why professional photographers use special color filters (non-photoshoppers anyway) to counter the effects of different light sources. No way CBS or other networks are going to recalibrate for every event because this just doesn't work. I know color is a complex subject but I have spent many years in this field and I am very familiar with the nuances and shortcomings. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the clarification Mike. Can't wait until football season to really show this set off

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I also am having some weird HDMI issues with the far left/right edges being brighter than the center. Wonder if I have an issue with my set...

I hope you will keep us advised on if you can reduce this, if it fades over time and if you can see it on component. I spent a few hours with the 5265F and I'm close to buying it, but the sides were brighter than the center on a component input. I did not think to adjust the gamma. I did think the 5265F had the best PQ out of the Sharp D92 and Sony XBR trio.
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I hope you will keep us advised on if you can reduce this, if it fades over time and if you can see it on component. I spent a few hours with the 5265F and I'm close to buying it, but the sides were brighter than the center on a component input. I did not think to adjust the gamma. I did think the 5265F had the best PQ out of the Sharp D92 and Sony XBR trio.

This issue has been talked about and remedied by lowering your HDMI black level to low. Search the owners thread for more info.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...w#post10202356
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post10177500
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Bryan, have you tried calibrating your 4661 with the HDMI Black Level set to low, or the color tone set to wide?

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Bryan, have you tried calibrating your 4661 with the HDMI Black Level set to low, or the color tone set to wide?

I have set the color tone to wide. I can't activate the HDMI Black Level on my set unless I hook up my Macbook to the HDMI 3 port. Anyone here have an HD DVD hooked up via HDMI to this set? If so, can you adjust this setting?

I have an HD Tivo and HD DVD player and neither one of them will trigger that setting.

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