LAST UPDATED: January 30, 2008.*****THIS post will NO LONGER be UPDATED. READ this post BEFORE posting!*****
Latest known software firmware: 1037. October 30, 2007. (available for download here)
Latest known mainboard firmware: 1014.Update: January 30, 2008
Please only (if you NEED to) update your firmware if your mainboard is a 1004, 1005, 1008, or 1009 revision
. If you have a 1007, 1011 or above, DO NOT update your firmware, and please do not ask if you have the latest versions
. As far as I'm aware, there are NO recurring issues with the 1007 or 1011-or-above mainboards.Update: November 23, 2007
Firmware 1037 is now available for download for LN-T4x61 and LN-T4x65 sets.. Thanks to cxtran for procuring it!Repeated from below:
Only attempt to upgrade your firmware if the first line is 1004, 1005, 1008, or 1009. This *new* 1007 (and 1011 and above..) is definitely an oddity we need to know more about before attempting any firmware upgrades.
Please read instructions detailed later in this post for how to install the update, and do so at your own risk
Download here:http://www.nkkn.org/samsung/Tulip.zipUpdate: September 26, 2007
It has come to my attention that there may be a new type of board revision floating around the LN-T line. Here is an example:
This looks quite different to the screen captures of my firmware in this thread. At this time please do NOT upgrade your firmware until we know more. Only attempt to upgrade your firmware if the first line is 1004, 1005, 1008, or 1009
. This *new* 1007 (and 1011 and above) we need to know more about before applying firmwares to it.Update: September 7, 2007FIRMWARE 1035 for LN-T4x6
1 available for download now!
Do not upgrade at this time if your firmware information looks anything like the image in the August 22nd update!
As before, this firmware has been tested on my LN-T4661F and applied with no problems. I make no promises this firmware will work with your TV, and as before, you use this at your own risk. It likely works with the 4x65 sets as well, as previous firmware have done so.
For instructions on how to install this, see the August 13, 2007 entry.http://t*nyurl.com/2qvwwj
(make sure to change the * into an "i")
Thank you to DarquePlague for hosting this, and for Trailkill for his acquisition of the firmware for us! As of this update, I know of no specific fixes that this firmware addresses.Update: August 22, 2007
As suspected, firmware 1032 has been confirmed by many AVS forum-goers as working on the LN-T4x65F series, so this firmware 1032 is now for both LN-T4x61 and LN-T4x65 sets. No confirmation on the Best Buy-only LN-T4x66 sets as of yet. As always, you use any firmware at your own risk. Drive safely, and have a nice day.
Do not upgrade at this time if your firmware information looks anything like this:Update: August 13, 2007FIRMWARE 1032 for LN-T4x6
1 available for download now!
*** WARNING *** This is only for the 61 series 1080p 2007 Samsung LN-T series TVs. It may well work on the 65 series, but I make no guarantees it will [SEE August 22nd UPDATE]. I have tested this on my LN-T4661 and it works great. Who knows what it fixes. It certainly made my revision 1024 a larger number! So I gained +8 points on the firmware scale. It's worth it for that alone, right? Right? Right.AS ALWAYS, you use this firmware at your own risk!http://www.*******.com/2352l5
Replace the *s with t i n y u r l
(but without the spaces.)Instructions:
1.) Download the file.
2.) Use Winzip or Winrar to extract the enclosed file to your desktop or folder of your choice.
3.) Copy the extracted folder (called "Tulip") to a FAT32-formatted USB memory stick. You should then have a formatted USB memory stick with the Tulip folder in there.
4.) Turn your TV on.
5.) Plug the memory stick into your TV
6.) Go to the SETUP menu and run the update procedure.
**NOTE** Some larger-sized USB sticks (over 1GB) apparently need more power than the TV can give it. If it's not working with one type of USB drive, try another!
Thank you to DarquePlague for hosting this file for me.
And here's my TV with the update applied:Update: July 5, 2007
The HDMI crisis is now "officially" over. If you are STILL having HDMI issues as described in this post, you MUST get in contact with Samsung at 1-800-Samsung, options, 4, 1, 1 (apparently now 5, 1, 1, [thanks djparis]), and get a BOARD replacement for your set. For the most part, new LN-T TVs are shipping with 1008 mainboards or HIGHER, which should resolve the problem. If you are still having issues with 1008 boards, get it replaced (again). Apparently some boards can be finicky.
More and more people are getting board replacements that are fixing the HDMI issue, so I feel it's fair to call the crisis over.Update: July 5, 2007
I can report that I had my main-board replaced (1004 board, with 1024 firmware) with a 1005 board with 1022 firmware. I'm happy to report that for my HDMI issues are now gone after several weeks of use with zero flashes/drops etc.
HOWEVER, it is still VERY possible to have a 1005 board with HDMI issues. The current official fix from Samsung is a 1008 board or higher, with 1024-or-higher firmware. There ARE several people who claim to have issues with 1008/1024 combinations, but I firmly believe another replacement is therefore needed. I also firmly believe there are 1008/1024 problematic boards out there, and 1008/1024 working boards. So hang in there folks!
(The bottom of this post explains the above numbers for the new people around these parts!)Update: June 23, 2007
As fellow board member Sam Relishe has noticed, after a mainboard swap some of the settings might be wrong. I own an LN-T4661, and my replaced mainboard was set up for a LN-T4665. This meant the color palette was completely wrong (everything was red and orange and green), and I had a menu option to turn the blue light on and off (only the LN-T4x65 series has the blue light). The way to fix this is as follows:
(Make sure to make a note of your picture calibration settings, as mine were reset after going into the service menu)
With your TV off, press MUTE, 1, 8, 2, and then POWER
Then, choose the OPTION BYTE.IMPORTANT: DO NOT MESS WITH ANY OTHER SETTINGS THAN THE ONES LISTED:
Make sure the SCREEN SIZE is correct: Panel Option = 46AMW
for LN-T4665 displays, and 46AM
for LN-T4661 displays.
Make sure that if you own an LN-T4x65
that your Lvds Tx Bit = 10bit.
Make sure if you own an LN-T4x61
that your Lvds Tx Bit = 8bit.
If you own an LN-T4x65, your should change your model so it says "Tulip Side."
If you own an LN-T4x61, you should change the model so it says "Tulip."
After changing these options, turn your TV off, and then on.Update: June 22, 2007
One of our fellow AVS members, axmode, came across a way to check what firmware version you'll get, before you open the box! This might be a smart way to check before you buy the TV.To check what firmware version you haveThe 8th character in your S/N (pertinent to all 2007 LN-Txx6x models) is a letter P which stands for 2007. The 9th character which follows that letter P will be a number which denotes the months of assembly. For those of you who want to ensure having a 1024/1008 at the very least, that number should be a 6 at the very least (to be sure).
Axmode verified this with his own S/Ns and the 4665 which went back was a P4 (1016/1004). The current 4061 is a P5 (1024/1008). This info may help those of you who are considering a purchase through a big box store, prior to opening up the sets.
Thanks axmode!Update: June 21, 2007
As of June Wednesday, June 20th, Tier 2 representatives at Samsung tech support have stated that the fix for ALL HDMI issues is a board replacement for those that do NOT have 1008 main boards with 1024 firmware. See the bottom of this post for instructions on how to check your version. Until we have confirmation from more people that this is the fix, this remains only SPECULATION on the part of the skeptical consumer. However, this is official and has been confirmed as the "fix" by several Tier 2 specialists.Update: June 18, 2007
. Fellow forum member dkwong has compiled a spreadsheet so we can keep track of who has what TV, and what firmware information and issues they are having. Thanks dkwong!
PLEASE send him any information you can so he can update his spreadsheet. You can view it here:Samsung SpreadsheetUpdate: June 15, 2007
. 1028 is the latest firmware, with no confirmation of the HDMI issue being fixed.Update: June 1, 2007
. How to use an XBOX 360 with the VGA cable, to resolve the "Mode Not Supported" message:
1. Reset the resolution of the console to 640x480. To do this, start the console, hold both triggers, and then press and hold the Y button as the console starts. For more information about how to reset your display settings, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
) Xbox 360: How to reset the display settings to the default settings
2. If this resolves the issue and you receive a picture on the display, you can continue to use the 640x480 resolution. Or you can try to use a higher resolution setting. If this does not resolve the issue, continue to the next step.
3. Disconnect the VGA HD cable from the display, and then remove the console power cord from the power outlet.
4. Wait five seconds.
5. Reconnect the console power cord to the power outlet, and then turn on the console.
6. Reconnect the VGA HD cable to the display. If this resolves the issue and you receive a picture on the display, you can continue to use the 640x480 resolution. Or you can try to use a higher resolution setting.
So this is the new *official* (merged) thread for the 2007 Samsung 1080p LCDs:
For previous posts on the 2007 Samsung 1080p LCDs, please refer to:Owner's Thread I
(3/15/2007 - 4/17/2007)Owner's Thread II
(4/17/2007 - 5/14/2007)
For picture quality settings of the LN-T series, please see the Calibration Settings
***This thread is for news regarding the entire LN-Txxxx series.***
****Check this first post often for news, updates, and FIRMWARES for the LN-T line.****Current news/what we know:
1.) The entire 2007 Samsung 1080p LCD lineup is suffering from HDMI handshake issues. This is the LN-Txxxx line. This is not just video-game related, but reported units giving trouble include the Playstation 3, XBOX 360 Elite, HTPCs, and various STBs. Also reports from people with drops/flashes:
"Mac Mini (Intel); PowerMac G4 DP (with a Radeon 9xxx(?) video card); Denon 2910 - upscaling (1080i) DVD Playler (this a pure HDMI connection)" - (courtesy of Ted Todorov)
1.b.) These issues manifest themselves as dropouts (picture loss), momentary green or pink flashes etc. These may not happen for hours and hours, and then suddenly you can get hit with two or three flashes/dropouts in a short time. There appears to be no rhyme or reason to the issue.
Here is an example of a dropped signal:
**THIS ISSUE IS NOW RESOLVED**
2.) Several tech people from Tier 1 and Tier 2 support said that Samsung ARE aware of the issue and are working to fix it. There is currently NO fix available.
3.) Design issues:
There are numerous reports of what is known as "clouding" or "mura." Nobody knows exactly what causes this, but it manifests itself as blotches of lighter areas on the screen or in the corners (corners are also known as "flashlights").
There are several reports of people wiping the area with a cloth from the cloud to the edge of the screen to remove the issue, but I can't verify this. To do this, grab a dry cloth and wipe the cloud fairly gently. If it moves, keep moving it!Please refrain from asking questions about clouds
, as this post should cover it. I personally understand the frustration of having had really bad clouds, but it bogs down the thread to discuss it ad nauseam. If you can't clear the clouds, and they actually bother you, exchange your set at your vendor. It is possible to get a completely cloud-free set, but don't drive yourself crazy. If you can't notice them during "normal" viewing, you've nothing to worry about!
Here is an example of clouds/mura:
3.b.) Another issue affecting these sets is something known as "pillaring." I personally haven't seen pillaring but it is visible as bands of light on the left and right of the screen. Apparently this can be fixed by properly calibrating your set: i.e. turning down brightness/contrast/backlight to NORMAL levels. If you have this problem, adjust your settings. If this doesn't fix it, return the set to your vendor. At this point, I believe it's simply calibration issues.
Here is an example of pillars:
4.) Some forum members are recommending HDMI port savers to take the strain off their TV's HDMI ports from the heavy cable connecting to your devices. Some have even said it fixed the handshaking issues they've been having but this is NOT proven as of yet (I can say they didn't help for me at all). You plug the port saver into your TV, and then your actual HDMI cable into it. I can speak only for myself when I say that port savers did NOT fix the handshaking issue.
Here's a picture of a port saver:To check your firmware version, here are the instructions:
1. Turn on your TV.
2. Press the MENU button on your remote.
3. Select SETUP, and then press ENTER.
4. Select Function Help, and then press ENTER.
5. Use the Up or Down arrow button on your remote to move down to Function Help to ON, and then press the ENTER button.
6. With Function Help ON highlighted
(don't actually push ENTER on it), press the INFO button on the remote. Your firmware revision will be listed as two lines of information. The TOP line is your software firmware. The BOTTOM line is the hardware revision number.
Here is my LN-T4661 with its firmware shown:
So, I have 1024 firmware (software), and 1004 hardware (mainboard).
Please send me a PM if you receive any information that might be useful to this post. If there is a newer firmware available, you might know before me, at which point I can request the firmware from my technician and be able to upload it for all of you to download. Your help is very important!