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post #1 of 7 Old 07-15-2007, 01:43 PM - Thread Starter
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My wife and I are looking at the 47" Philips 47PFL7432D/37 LCD at wally world.

We don't watch all that much television, news+weather and maybe some comedy central every so often. We mainly want the television for movies and as a really big monitor I don't really care about or want to pay the extra $ per month for HD from the cable company. Should this thing produce a picture from our cable box no worse then our 9 year old sony rear projection does? I'm worried that we get it home, get s-video from the cable into the new tv and it looks like crap.

Also, is there any point in investing in an dvd player with HDMI outputs? Shouldn't the composite out from our existing DVD player get upconverted by the tv? Eventually going to get a hd-dvd or blu-ray player, but not right now...
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SD TV is not going to look as good on the Philips as it would on your (I'm making an assumption here, standard def) rear projection Sony. It will most likely be mediocre.

As far as wanting a DVD player that upconverts, I highly recommend picking one up with the TV. You are correct in your assumption that the TV will scale the picture to fit, but a decent upconversion DVD player will make your DVD's look much better.
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SD TV is not going to look as good on the Philips as it would on your (I'm making an assumption here, standard def) rear projection Sony. It will most likely be mediocre.

yeah, it's an old sd Sony KP43T75. Well, crap Any idea if the HD cable box improves the look of the non HD channels? Looks likeTime Warner only has 12 standard hd channels. I'm wondering how the other non-HD ones will look.
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If you are concerned about SD looking decent, take a look at the JVCs, although there are newer models slated to drop in a few months.

But they still need a good SD signal to do their best. Even the 7 series Olevias cannot work miracles on a crappy source. I don't know how your cable provider is, but mine (Comcast) gives a horrid SD picture on anything.
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yeah, it's an old sd Sony KP43T75. Well, crap Any idea if the HD cable box improves the look of the non HD channels? Looks likeTime Warner only has 12 standard hd channels. I'm wondering how the other non-HD ones will look.

I had read a lot on here before buying an HDTV. Reading all of the posts about how crappy SD looked on almost all HDTV's concerned me as well. I have found out through buying and using my set that SD is not all that bad when viewed from a normal viewing distance. I am also in a different boat than you though, as I have Directv which is 100% digital so my opinions on SD are a little skewed. My father has a panny plasma hooked up to Comcast and any of the analog SD channels are damn near unwatchable. As time goes on most all of the cable systems are phasing out their analog channels anyways so I wouldn't worry about it. Buy whatever set pleases you and take a look at it in your house. If you don't think you can bear to watch it bring it back. Like I said earlier I don't think it looks that bad, it just can't compare to watching HD.

The cable box will give an improved picture with any of the analog cable channels that have a duplicate digital channel. I'm pretty sure that there are still some channels on Comcast that have an analog and digital channel, for example ESPN, Nickelodeon, etc...
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Any idea if the HD cable box improves the look of the non HD channels?

I upgraded from an Explorer 8300 to an Explorer 8300 HD box, and I saw no difference in SD channels.

However, SD programs broadcast on an HD channel often look much better than on the SD channel. Much more bandwidth is allocated to HD channels, so more of the program's original quality is preserved in the transmission.
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I would advise not buying any TV that does not have a Clear QAM tuner.
This device allows you to watch local HD channels on cable without the need for a cable box or special HD subscription.

After several years of watching HD programming, I find that I try to avoid SD programming if at all possible. Thus, it's not really important how well a TV plays SD stuff, it's how the TV plays the HD stuff that counts.
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