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post #721 of 3238 Old 10-31-2007, 09:08 PM
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I purchased the panasonic 50 pz77 3 weeks back. Love the set, but I dont find it bright enough during the day. I bought the unit from BB and was thinking of returning it for a 52 sony - either the XBR4 or the w3000. I watch mostly sports. A few questions for people who own the w3000.

1) How do the sports programming look? Any issues? In the store its impossible to discern a difference between these units (to my eye).

2) In a bright room (2 full wall of windows), am I going to see a benefit from an LCD?? I know they are brighter, but am I simply being too picky? Meaning, any TV will not be bright enough.

Any major reasons to pursue the XBR4 - It runs an extra $800-1000, which seems hard to justify.

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Thanks for the comments. It makes some sense. However, I watched plasma before and wasn't bothered by the blur.

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Movies typically show blur on panning scenes! I'm doing some research for a family member on this thread, but can't help saying something.

Movies are shot at 24 fps. Go to a movie theatre and watch when the camera pans -- the blur will be obvious. Don't take my word for it... see for yourself. So, why then isn't this noticeable on other tv's, such as crt's? Because the picture is soft and low resolution.

I've nothing against you (I'm just jumping in here) getting an XBR4. But, 120 hz isn't going to make a blurry panning scene shot at 24 fps not look blurry. The 120 hz is good for letting 24 fps divide evenly and not having to do 3:2 pulldown.

Poor pq on any of these high quality sets is almost invariably due to the source or the settings (turn off any "enhancements").

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The 46" w3000 is advertised in the Circuit City ad this week for $2399 after all discounts. I happened to be in the Northridge, CA store and noticed it was marked at $1899. I asked the salesman if this was a mistake, he didn't think so, but checked the computer to make sure and informed me that the price was correct. He also told me that I would get a $100 gift card with purchase of that TV.

That was the first major A/V purchase I've ever made without consulting this forum... I was afraid the price would change if I left!

So if you're thinking about it, you might want to check in-store at a few Circuit City's to see if the price difference affects your area stores as well.
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I'm on the fence: the 52W3000 is $2599 @ Sears, $2649 at CC (but I have a AAA 10% off coupon, so $2385), and Sams has it for $2989(but you get their return policy free).
Sams had the 52w hooked up playing the reg. version of transformers and it still looked awesome.
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That's an awesome deal and very hard to pass. Good job!


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The 46" w3000 is advertised in the Circuit City ad this week for $2399 after all discounts. I happened to be in the Northridge, CA store and noticed it was marked at $1899. I asked the salesman if this was a mistake, he didn't think so, but checked the computer to make sure and informed me that the price was correct. He also told me that I would get a $100 gift card with purchase of that TV.

That was the first major A/V purchase I've ever made without consulting this forum... I was afraid the price would change if I left!

So if you're thinking about it, you might want to check in-store at a few Circuit City's to see if the price difference affects your area stores as well.

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The 46" w3000 is advertised in the Circuit City ad this week for $2399 after all discounts. I happened to be in the Northridge, CA store and noticed it was marked at $1899. I asked the salesman if this was a mistake, he didn't think so, but checked the computer to make sure and informed me that the price was correct. He also told me that I would get a $100 gift card with purchase of that TV.
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Good deal, looks like prices are dropping, I saw a Sears Black Friday pre-release ad for the 40W3000 at 1399.
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Yeh, I saw that too. Can't wait to see what CC & BB will have. Only 3 more weeks!
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I'm on the fence: the 52W3000 is $2599 @ Sears, $2649 at CC (but I have a AAA 10% off coupon, so $2385), and Sams has it for $2989(but you get their return policy free).
Sams had the 52w hooked up playing the reg. version of transformers and it still looked awesome.

Off topic...thanks for that AAA 10% discount! I didn't know about it...going to make that 52W3000 that much easier to buy

Right now I am debating the 52W3000 and two of the sharps (46D64 and 46D82) does anyone have opinions/real life testimonials on these units? I will probably go down and buy tomorrow, so any help you guys can give would be greatly appreciated! TIA
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If anyone is on the fence for the 52w3000. Sears is selling it for $2599. And if you use the Sears card they're going to knock off another $250 for a promotion they're running. I have mines coming on Friday.

Thanks for the heads up on Sears! Just put in my order. BTW, price is good until 11/3.

ETA: Now it says the price is good until 11/10. $250 rebate is good until 11/17.
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I've scanned thru a good chunk of the thread but am still having some issues tweaking the settings on my 46"W3000....particularly for watching HD sports via dish. I would appreciate any recommendations or advice on that.

I've noticed that many have all the so called enhancements (MPEG reduction, white level, etc.) turned off. Why are these included and what are the issues with using them?

By the way, I was back and forth for months on what to get and overall I am very pleased with this set.

Thanks.
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ah i just bought a 46w3000 at circuit city 2 weeks ago, for $2250 (pricematched with dell and then sales man knocked another $150 off, we have a "dell store" in our mall (its really a kiosk but they dont need to know that)); but now its $2299 on the website (1899 in store??? can anyone confirm?) and a 10% off coupon from AAA...i know they do the price matching for cheaper prices...but will they retroactively add the 10% coupon? cause if they wont then im just gonna return it and rebuy, seems like just retroactively adding it would save them some trouble. maybe its time to upgrade to the 52inch...

also does anyone know if there are major differences between the circuit city warrenty and the sony warrenty. the sony one is significantly cheaper, while the circuit city employee claimed they'll service a single dead pixal, while sony requires 27 to be dead. any clue if thats true? how common are future dead pixals if there are zero now?

other than that i used the settings found on this thread as the custom...whites are still yellowish on those settings. i find that that standard preset settings are the best, and have a very crisp white. hdtv, xbox 360, and hddvds look great on the standard setting, the other settings seem useless. picture looks great overall, im very impressed. pictures even look great during the day with high light environment (its next to a wall of windows (w/ curtains)).
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I just had my 52w3000 delivered today and I'm loving it. I'm not as versed in the terminology as most people here so I can't comment on the technical stuff. But i'm really happy with it. Held off on watching Transformers till I had this delivered, so it's going to be a movie night tonight.
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I just went to circuit city, the 46w3000 was priced at $2399.99...its listed as 2299.99 on CC's website
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I just went to circuit city, the 46w3000 was priced at $2399.99...its listed as 2299.99 on CC's website

The $100 price difference is because in-store you get a $100 gift card, the TV rings up for $100 less than advertised and then they charge you $100 for the gift card. I don't think you have a choice whether you want the gift card or not.

As for the price, as I posted previously, I found the 46w3000 at one local CC store for $2399, and at another for $1899 (including the $100 gift card). So you might want to check more than one store if you have that option close to you.
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The wife and I discussed our need for a new tv and I plan to run over to *ry's and pick up a W3000 tomorrow morning. Can you guys recommend a good wall mount bracket for the set? I am getting DirectTV to come out ASAP for a HD upgrade and I am in the market for a PS3 so what cables should I order?
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hi forum gurus,

i've been reading the comments from you guys for hmm... 7 months and finally pulled the trigger and purchased the v3000 from bb in canada. i've never researched something so long but you collectively convinced me that i would be okay with this one. i owned a top end sony 34' crt last year but the coating was wearing so i was able to get a full refund (after many months of back and forth from vis*). the price i got was the same as that posted on the usa sony site. gotta love dollar parity (while it lasts). unfortunate for me none were in stock so i have to wait til wed to pick it up. for the savings i thought the piano black was fine over the w series. besides, i only have one hdmi dvd player at the moment.

we don't generally see the same great sales of 'black friday' but i have 30 days to do better i guess.

anyways, i'll search the past 20-so pages for them but if some kind member could easily direct me to the best settings i should use for my setup on wed. i would be very grateful.

thanks again for your continued discussion. i feel more like family now and will report on anything relevant for the necessary future.

cheers,
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Welcome Scott... hate to break it to you, but looks like your first post is in the wrong thread. This is the W3000 thread.
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The 52W at Sams comes with a tv stand. Does this model come with a tv stand elsewhere or is it just a Sams bundle deal?
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Also please any W3000 vote on my cloudy thread about 3000 model line up
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I waited a long time for the price on these to come down and felt great about $2240 at Frys for the 46" a couple weeks back. Now it seems to be coming down even more...oh well.

In any case, I am thrilled with overall picture quality but one nuisance seems to be scrolling text such as on ESPN with scores etc. When it moves slow it is fine but when the text is a little quick it becomes blurry or worse appears to jump across in steps rather than a smooth constant scroll. Is this to be expected with LCD's particularly w/o some of the newer features (120 Hz, Motion enhancents etc.)? Is there anyway to tune this out via settings?

Thanks.
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oops.
thanks jason. i guess my excitement and a long week got the better of me
i'll move over to v-land.
thanks
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goducks28 - "enhancements" modify the source. Since this is a digital set, it should faithfully reproduce the signal it's getting. There are basic settings that need to be calibrated - brightness (for black level), picture or contrast (for white level), color saturation and hue. But "enhancements" process (distort) the original signal. Unnatural pictures such a Vivid can initally impress, but typically become tiresome and annoying w/ their distorting side-effects.

Why do sets have these "features"? Because they draw people in (as flashy vivid settings do on a showroom), sound hi-tech and can fetch a premium price. It's trivial to throw in some signal processing code, and very rewarding to a manufacturer's bottom line. Most people, esp. when hdtv naive, will go for the flash and look past a set w/ a clean, natural picture.

Re: jumpiness w/ a fast scroll... that's certainly in the source itself. These motion problems are common in source material, yet most immediately think it's their set. The weak link in the HDTV chain is source material not these latest generation sets. Film is 24 fps. You can't pan a film camera w/out blur at that rate. Digital broadcasts are also of very mixed quality. One shot will look great during a football game, and w/ a switch to another camera the picture looks crappy. Then there's compression artifacts and so on.

When there's bad PQ, one should look to source, settings ("enhancements"!) and connection -- it's rarely a high quality HDTV.
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I purchased a 46W3000 about 3 weeks ago and overall I am pleased with the picture, however I noticed the viewing angles from the sides are not as good as the display models in the stores. The color seems to get washed out when I stand about 6 feet to the side and about 6 feet from the TV or anywhere in that area. I actually set about 9 feet back when watching TV and the viewing angles from that distance are much better. I know it may sound weird, because who wants to watch a 46 TV from 6 feet away. I am just concerned since the specs say it has a 178 degree viewing angle and I am not seeing that. I want to make sure I do not have a defective TV right now while I have the opportunity to return or exchange it. Has anyone else noticed this with their 46W3000? I apologize if this issue has come up already or if I posted in the wrong forum I'm a newbie here.
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I just bought my first HDTV - the 46W3000. I saw some earlier posts about callibration and ideal settings, but they are all different. I assume you need the settings for your specific equipment.

Right now I have the "Motorola DCT6416 III" cable box from Time Warner with HDMI cable. Can anyone post (or repost) settings using similar equipment?

Thanks!!
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What kind of power cord is this set shipped with - a two prong AC, with no ground, or a 3 prong AC, with a ground? I really need it to be the two prong, because behind my setup, that's all there is (old house), and I really don't want to have to rewire (the wife will make me rewire the whole house...)
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I'll say three-prong 'cause you shouldn't be sending direct power into yr 'new' set.
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It's a 3 pong that comes with the set
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hi,

i am new to this forum, i have researched this to the extreme, i work at an electronics store and have hooked up tvs to blu-ray, hd-dvd, sd cable, and a loop. its down to the sony kdl-40v or 40w 3000's or the panasonic 42pz77u.

my problem is i want to watch sports and love watching movies on my new but unused sony ht-7000dh home theater in a box (last year, but great deal). i plan on buying a PS3 in the future.

i think the sony has an incredible white and picture quality, and the colors just seem to jump. i am pretty sure the setting is on vivid though. and i like the pq on the panasonic but think it is a little dull/faded/washed out/lighter whatever you want to call it. does anyone know how to change the settings so it doesn;'t look as washed out and the white look white (sry if yall went over this)

i want a tv that will last and that i will not regret, i know both brand wise are very good. price is not an issue, i can get both at a price close enough not to matter.

what would you do, for sports and action movies i know plasm,a is better, blacks are better etc...

don;t know what to do

if anyone can help that would be awesome
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What kind of power cord is this set shipped with - a two prong AC, with no ground, or a 3 prong AC, with a ground? I really need it to be the two prong, because behind my setup, that's all there is (old house), and I really don't want to have to rewire (the wife will make me rewire the whole house...)

What type of wiring does your house have? If it's metal shielded and properly grounded, you can just change the plug and connect the ground wire to the the metal receptacle box. Someone with a volt-amp meter can tell quickly if it will work. I have changed almost all of the two wire plugs in my old house to three wire plugs. All check out for proper grounding. Good luck

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Hey Guys,

I'm about to pull the trigger on the 52W3000 at Sears since they have such a great deal on that unit right now. I have a question I'm hoping one of you can answer. I understand that the remote does not have discrete input buttons, but I'm wondering if the TV takes discrete input codes from a universal remote like a Logitech Harmony. Just from looking at the Logitech software, it looks like it may support discrete IR commands for changing inputs, but if someone could verify this I would feel much better before I purchase this thing.

Thanks so much!

- John

Hey, in case you haven't found out already, the set should support discrete inputs. I just purchased the 46W3000 and uploaded the necessary IR database profile to my URC TX-1000 universal remote. I now have discrete input selection. I'm pretty sure you can program this to most universal remotes including the Logitec remote you mentioned.

I'm new here and I thought I should provide some helpful info if could, seeing that reviewing all the posts from the veteran members was helpful in helping me to decide on my purchase. I am definitely enjoying my new set and just want to say thank you to the other members for the information they have posted.
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