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A few people in the Mitsubishi forum had techs look at their LCD's which confirmed that it was a power supply issue, switching to power save mode fixed my clicking noises, this what about 4 months ago. From what I've heard it's pretty common with LCD's and goes away with time.

10-4, thanks for the info. I have the power save mode on High and still have this problem. When I had my Sharp D92U (2 of them) neither of them made this noise. When I get my new TV (10/22) I will post if it has the same problem or not.

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Check your manual on page 5 or 7 it said it is normal. Last night my wife turned off the TV expected the snap crackle pop and she didn't hear it at all.

I did check page 5 and while it did state it is normal for the snapping and popping sounds when the TV is being turned on or off, it further goes on to say if the sound is continuous or frequent while the TV is operating, to unplug the TV and consult your dealer or service tech. I would not have a problem with these noises if it only did it while the TV was being turned off or turned on, but the noises continue while while watching the TV.

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I did check page 5 and while it did state it is normal for the snapping and popping sounds when the TV is being turned on or off, it further goes on to say if the sound is continuous or frequent while the TV is operating, to unplug the TV and consult your dealer or service tech. I would not have a problem with these noises if it only did it while the TV was being turned off or turned on, but the noises continue while while watching the TV.

I only heard mine when I turned on/off, until yesterday my wife said said no noise. I did heard it when I switched to blank input or the signal is not strong too. In your case you might want to have a tech comes out and check.
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Should I return it in the hopes of getting a better sample or return it and get a samsung 71 or 81 series? I like the 24p but is it worth it for the crappy backlighting I am getting? I can post pics if anyone would like more info.
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Should I return it in the hopes of getting a better sample or return it and get a samsung 71 or 81 series? I like the 24p but is it worth it for the crappy backlighting I am getting? I can post pics if anyone would like more info.

If you have only had it a short while keep it and see if the clouds clear up as others have noted. If you are coming up on your return period return it for one last chance. If you are dissatisfied with the replacement then go with another brand.
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Should I return it in the hopes of getting a better sample or return it and get a samsung 71 or 81 series? I like the 24p but is it worth it for the crappy backlighting I am getting? I can post pics if anyone would like more info.

just curious which xbr4 do you own 32",40",46",52"?
Because from what i'm reading and hearing of clouding/backlight issues, seems to me the 46" seems to be having the most clouding issues as to never hearing that problem on the 32",40",52".
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just curious which xbr4 do you own 32",40",46",52"?
Because from what i'm reading and hearing of clouding/backlight issues, seems to me the 46" seems to be having the most clouding issues as to never hearing that problem on the 32",40",52".

I got the 46 - sigh. not enough money for the 52 and the 40 felt too small.
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If you have only had it a short while keep it and see if the clouds clear up as others have noted. If you are coming up on your return period return it for one last chance. If you are dissatisfied with the replacement then go with another brand.

Good call - is there a calibration screen I can place it on for a day or overnight? Like a total black or a total white? I had a slight ghosting problem on my Dell 20" monitor awhile back and a pure white screen for a day or so fixed it.
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What you want to know is if it can do inverse telecine as that is the rarity right now. And the consensus seems to be that Sony does not do this correctly when fed 1080i film based video content.

From what I have researched, I think it does 1080p/24 without mucking with the frames as long as you turn off the motion stuff. However, don't take my word for it as I don't own one to even try this.

No, I'm not asking about inverse telecine. I've pretty much given up on that with the current generation of TVs. Most of my movie watching are for Blu-rays anyway, so I'm only interested in 1080p/24 input handling.

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If you read the comments in that HDGuru review, he specifically says later on that he didn't even TEST the 24fps input feature of the set. I've enjoyed his reviews from time to time, but I'd have to say that was one of the most confusing reviews of a television I've ever read.

Yes, but he also says he talked with manufacturers and they confirmed that they don't do 120Hz directly. He never claimed or implied he tested 24p himself.

I agree with you on the most confusing review part though. You can actually see me getting confused asking questions on that page.

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I got the 46 - sigh. not enough money for the 52 and the 40 felt too small.

my previous 46" xbr4 had one cloud on the top right corner but in a week it disappeared completely.
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Hi, I'm about to pull the trigger on a 52" XBR4 and have had an entertaining week reading all these pages and the extremely helpful info here.
I haven't found anything specific in regard to this situation tho, so I thought I'd ask the Collective's opinion.
I just got a PS3, and will be getting the 52XBR4. I would like to play games and watch BD. I would like to use my Onkyo TX-DS777 receiver that is not HDMI capable. I don't have a STB currently, so would just hook the cable directly to the XBR4 I suppose.

I'd like to have surround sound for gaming and movies both, of course - and the Onkyo supports 5.1 DTS/DD. It has 4 digital audio inputs - 2 coax and 2 Toslink and one digital Toslink output along with 3 composite video and 3 s-video outputs.
Any thoughts on the best way to put hook this all together would be greatly appreciated.
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I am having lip sync issues with my HDTV signal from Dish network. The audio is in sync over the hdmi (TV speakers) but the audio coming from the optical out on the VIP 622 is a little ahead. Has anyone experienced this issue or know how to fix it. I have tried everything from game mode from turning tv speakers off to try and get them in sync.

Surely i am not going to have to go out and upgrade my AV reciever to an HDMI capable one just to get my audio in sync.

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on a side note the speakers on these xbr4 especially the 46" and 52" are pretty nice i use the tb speakers on sd tv and more than loud and bass is nice for a tv.
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OK right now I have a 120hz set which is the samsung 4671. I notice a lot of motion blur in the backgrounds in Motorstorm and GTHD. Ususally in fast paced games. The Ps3 I use is connected with HDMI.

I really need to know how the motion is handled in games. I heard this set has a lot of motion blur.

Ive been looking for posts about motion blur with the XBR4 but cant find any. Can you guys point me in the right direction.
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I am having lip sync issues with my HDTV signal from Dish network. The audio is in sync over the hdmi (TV speakers) but the audio coming from the optical out on the VIP 622 is a little ahead. Has anyone experienced this issue or know how to fix it. I have tried everything from game mode from turning tv speakers off to try and get them in sync.

Surely i am not going to have to go out and upgrade my AV reciever to an HDMI capable one just to get my audio in sync.

I only noticed a lip sync problem in one show after having my set for less than two weeks and it was only off a little. I'll have to look for it this week. Other than that anomaly my 52xbr4 has been a dream. I don't have an avr yet.
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OK right now I have a 120hz set which is the samsung 4671. I notice a lot of motion blur in the backgrounds in Motorstorm and GTHD. Ususally in fast paced games. The Ps3 I use is connected with HDMI.

I really need to know how the motion is handled in games. I heard this set has a lot of motion blur.

Ive been looking for posts about motion blur with the XBR4 but cant find any. Can you guys point me in the right direction.

Go to Search this Thread at the top of the page and type in "motion blur".
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Fry's had it on sale this week for under $3800. Just finished the Patriots/Cowboys game on my 52XBR4

Frys in Texas had it for sale last week for cheaper ( cost equal 3800 - to a greek - persion movie which came out a month ago )

I had a converssation with one of the Super at outpost and they said they might get more in at a cheaper price than most of the other places.

I and a few others have already on back order, however they are not taking any more orders unless they can fulfill the old ones.

Patiently waiting .......

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Go to Search this Thread at the top of the page and type in "motion blur".

Maybe he hasn't found any posts cause there isn't any blur

I had a sammy 5281 and it had ghost trails like crazy, motion was no where near as good as this xbr4.

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Maybe he hasn't found any posts cause there isn't any blur

Heh, heh!

I love my 52xbr4 so much I'm beside myself. The wife says I don't look at her like that. I said that's because it gives me unconditional love. The doctor said my concussion could have been worse.
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I'm picking up my 52XBR4 in the morning, you guys have got me really excited about this TV. I love this forum .

Making the most out of what I got.
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I'm happy as a pig in crap...and I don't even have surround sound yet. I ordered a sub yesterday and should be pulling the trigger on speakers and avr in the next few days. Talk about excited...
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Heh, heh!

I love my 52xbr4 so much I'm beside myself. The wife says I don't look at her like that. I said that's because it gives me unconditional love. The doctor said my concussion could have been worse.

Funny !!!!
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I am having lip sync issues with my HDTV signal from Dish network. The audio is in sync over the hdmi (TV speakers) but the audio coming from the optical out on the VIP 622 is a little ahead. Has anyone experienced this issue or know how to fix it. I have tried everything from game mode from turning tv speakers off to try and get them in sync.

Surely i am not going to have to go out and upgrade my AV reciever to an HDMI capable one just to get my audio in sync.

I notice the sync problem with only certain HD channels. I believe TNT or TBS, I will have to look tonight, has a problem with sound.

I have the vip722 receiver and run an optical cable also.

Any Directv customers or other dish customers have this problem?
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Most AVR's equipped with optical/coaxial digital audio inputs, have a speaker by speaker delay adjustment, or at the very least a center channel delay. They're typically buried deep in the menus. If it can decode 5.1/dts or take stereo and matrix it into dolby pl, pl2, pl2x, there nust be speaker delay settings someplace. Happy hunting!!!
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The first thing I always think about before heading home from work is my 52"xbr4 =D and puts me in a good mood, take a shower drink some wine watch some movies =D
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just curious which xbr4 do you own 32",40",46",52"?
Because from what i'm reading and hearing of clouding/backlight issues, seems to me the 46" seems to be having the most clouding issues as to never hearing that problem on the 32",40",52".

46XBR4 here. No clouds, flashlights, spotlights, floodlights, popping, cracking, coughing, wheezing...........
Very pleased here.
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Maybe he hasn't found any posts cause there isn't any blur

I had a sammy 5281 and it had ghost trails like crazy, motion was no where near as good as this xbr4.

Really? I thought the Samsungs handled motion better (not counting the tri-ball effect)
They had a display of the Samsung 71 & the Sony V3000 playing the same HD feed & there were definitely some slight bluring on the Sony compared to the Samsung.
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46XBR4 here. No clouds, flashlights, spotlights, floodlights, popping, cracking, coughing, wheezing...........
Very pleased here.

lol congrats, i'm not saying that "all" 46" xbr4 have clouding issues but seems to hear about it more than the other sizes.
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