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post #361 of 5782 Old 03-17-2008, 08:13 AM
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Soon to be a 50PX80U owner...the extra HDMI port, contrast, gradation, and Wii-proof CRT-grade glass sold me.

But it was a lot to talk my wife out of the anti-glare PX77U line, which we'd been focusing on (fair amount of in-room light). I've appreciated comments on the new AR screen - can we get some more, esp. more pics of the glare (or lack thereof)? Thanks.
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s-video is SD only though.

I would use VGA out of the laptop with a VGA/RGB to component cable that you can get from a forum sponsor.

yeah, 720p would be needed. So a vga/rgb to component cable will pass through 1280x720 without issue?

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Soon to be a 50PX80U owner...the extra HDMI port, contrast, gradation, and Wii-proof CRT-grade glass sold me.

But it was a lot to talk my wife out of the anti-glare PX77U line, which we'd been focusing on (fair amount of in-room light). I've appreciated comments on the new AR screen - can we get some more, esp. more pics of the glare (or lack thereof)? Thanks.

Tell your wife the px80u is that and more than the px77u. You are getting a better television at one hell of a price. Please remember there are some members here who have their own businesses and they are offering great prices to members of avs.

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Any opinions on the black level set to "Dark" (which I believe is the jargon for dynamic contrast for this set)? Anybody try to calibrate their set around this setting?

The black levels have nothing to do with any dynamic anything. The black level adjustment is there simply to allow for compensation between two standards of 'black'. In the analog NTSC-M (US plus others) the blanking level is defined as 7.5 IRE and in the NTSC-J (Japan) the blanking level is defined as 0 IRE. These levels determine the black level.

EDIT: It's a bit more technically complicated than how I described it.

Use the 'black level' adjustment to compensate for an overbright (washed out) or for a too dark picture. Old analog output DVD players and most VCRs benefit from a setting of 'dark.'

Eventually, when analog TV is really gone (in my opinion, in a few decades) this will no longer be a problem.

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Freight co. just called. 42px80u is one hour away! This is my first HDTV. I feel like a kid on Christmas morning. Comcast comes wed., but I have ps3 and can't wait to pop in a dvd. Bought this T.V. largely due to all the info I read from this thread. Thanks everyone! Putting it in bedroom on dresser 52"x17" 30" high. Will it sit safely on stand or should I brace it somehow?
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I have a Sony DVP-NS75H outputting at 720p via HDMI.

Your specific problem is the first that I have heard about in the 42px80u. Mild posterization was common in the Cinema mode of the 42px75u but users solved it by switching to either Standard or Custom.

Try other modes and other settings. If you can't get rid of the problem and if is readily obvious to everyone, I would suggest that you may have a defective set. If the TV can be exchanged, I would do that. If not, call the Pansonic Concierge and have them send a repair technicial to look at it. It may be a damaged board (D board, I believe but don't quote me.)

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Had mine since Friday....as someone else mentioned...must be a defect in the coating or something. Can you take a picture for us to see it?


I will try and take a pic tonight. So when you go up to the screen and look at reflections there are no patterns of any type?
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Freight co. just called. 42px80u is one hour away! This is my first HDTV. I feel like a kid on Christmas morning. Comcast comes wed., but I have ps3 and can't wait to pop in a dvd. Bought this T.V. largely due to all the info I read from this thread. Thanks everyone! Putting it in bedroom on dresser 52"x17" 30" high. Will it sit safely on stand or should I brace it somehow?


This set sits firmly in place with the included stand. You should not experience any problems with the television tipping over.

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I'm gonna load up a **** load of picks for you guys in about 2 hours or so.

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I'm gonna load up a **** load of picks for you guys in about 2 hours or so.

Can't wait to see them. How many phots are in an a****.
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Your specific problem is the first that I have heard about in the 42px80u. Mild posterization was common in the Cinema mode of the 42px75u but users solved it by switching to either Standard or Custom.

Try other modes and other settings. If you can't get rid of the problem and if is readily obvious to everyone, I would suggest that you may have a defective set. If the TV can be exchanged, I would do that. If not, call the Pansonic Concierge and have them send a repair technicial to look at it. It may be a damaged board (D board, I believe but don't quote me.)

Larry

Thanks, I actually get it in Standard too. I watch HD Cable in this mode and Saturday Night Live was pretty bad a couple nights ago. I checked out a few minutes of Law and Order and Cold Case last night and some people looked as if their faces were melting.
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Any body have feedback on this?

I think this is normal. See post #265. I have this on mine and so did the one at my local Best Buy.
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@ Laxguy, I think what you are seeing the AR coating. It should make a cross-hatch style reflection. At least that is what mine, the models at the store, and many others have reported.

aidenpendragon, as long as the light source is not directly in front of the TV, there should be minimal glare. I was very worried about glare (my first plasma) and to this point it has been a non-issue. More glare than my Aquos, but nowhere near the glare of my old CRT.
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Not sure if you saw my panny sitting on the bush television stand...the stand and the tv look as if they were made for each other. Black gloss against black gloss. Here is a link on Best Buy's website.....nice stand.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1138085296252

BTW...I fit my center speaker....cable recevier....belkin power center(dvd player on top) on the bottom shelf. Middle shelf has the PS3, HD A2, and my Onkyo receiver. There is alot of room.....look at post #309 for my pics

Here's the response I got from Racks and Stands about the stand I was looking at and whether or not the supplied mount will hold the 50" Panny.

Hello,

There really is no way for me to guarantee that the Bush VS11550A-03 would work with the television that you are purchasing. It would most likely fit as it is a universal mount intended for usage with televisions 50" or less. I know that Bush does not test their units with each television model so there is no way for me to offer you a guarantee. If you were to go ahead and order this item, I would recommend purchasing the return protection with it, which costs about $25.00 and would cover all shipping and handling costs as well as the 10% restocking fee in the event of a return. Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions or would like to place an order.

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Considering there are not that many 50" tv's out there to test, can't understand why they didn't test the Panny.

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I took about 44 pics, gonna load them on my website, just give me a bit. I think about 30 are solid ones. I took a couple PS3 shots, 3 or 4 Blu-Ray movies, and a couple high Def cable.

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I took about 44 pics, gonna load them on my website, just give me a bit. I think about 30 are solid ones. I took a couple PS3 shots, 3 or 4 Blu-Ray movies, and a couple high Def cable.

Sounds great. Must have taken you a while to do all of it.
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All the pics are up guys.

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All the pics are up guys.

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Thanks alot.

For requests of pics let me know.

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I've owned Sony 46XBR4,Panny 42PX75u, Sammy HP-T4254, Toshiba 32HL57, and now finally Panny 42PX80u and I could be keeping this one. All of the above have not really lived up to the price or performance. I picked this one up for 1100.00 plus Tax and I really loved the price and the picture is wicked.

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I've owned Sony 46XBR4,Panny 42PX75u, Sammy HP-T4254, Toshiba 32HL57, and now finally Panny 42PX80u and I could be keeping this one. All of the above have not really lived up to the price or performance. I picked this one up for 1100.00 plus Tax and I really loved the price and the picture is wicked.

Thanks for the pictures. Most were pretty nice. What and where do the thick LIGHT green lines (in an arc)that radiate from the left side of the screen come from???

Otherwise very good. BTW, you see the lines in some (around 10) pictures but NOT all of them. I'm really curious about the green lines. I'm not exactly sure what "posterization" is but is that what the lines are? What, if anything, can/should be done about them? Once again,

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You only see these when a camera is on it....otherwise you can't see it.

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Thanks alot.

For requests of pics let me know.

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Will I notice a diff w/ blue ray on this tv? I too have this tv (will try to upload pics tonight).
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I wouldn't mind seeing some rock band pics if you have a chance. Not the best for judging quality probably, but it's one of the heavy uses mine would get. I've been back and forth between the 4685u and 50px80, and am likely leaning towards the 50. 1080p (a wash at 75% of my viewing positions), bit better contrast but smaller screen and $500 more are weighing heaviest right now. I spent a good deal of my lunch break eyeing the 50px80 in CC today and I was very impressed.

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Just got my PX80 yesterday and I love it. Quick question though about the screen. I went to check for image retention by getting the screen to all black. There was no IR, but as I was about to walk away I noticed the screen has unique light refelctions, almost likes x patterns throughtout the screen. I turned the TV off and they were still there so its obviously reflections. Is this the material of the screen causing these reflections/ x patterns? Does anyone else have this? I just want to make sure I don't have a lemon. Thanks!

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Any body have feedback on this?

Pretty sure it's the anti-reflective filter. It's normal.
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@ Laxguy, I think what you are seeing the AR coating. It should make a cross-hatch style reflection. At least that is what mine, the models at the store, and many others have reported.

aidenpendragon, as long as the light source is not directly in front of the TV, there should be minimal glare. I was very worried about glare (my first plasma) and to this point it has been a non-issue. More glare than my Aquos, but nowhere near the glare of my old CRT.


I think that's exactly why I am seeing. Would the cross-hatch somewhat resemble x-like patterns? So I don't have a lemon then right?
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I wouldn't mind seeing some rock band pics if you have a chance. Not the best for judging quality probably, but it's one of the heavy uses mine would get. I've been back and forth between the 4685u and 50px80, and am likely leaning towards the 50. 1080p (a wash at 75% of my viewing positions), bit better contrast but smaller screen and $500 more are weighing heaviest right now. I spent a good deal of my lunch break eyeing the 50px80 in CC today and I was very impressed.

I'll do my best to get you some pics tonight. I'll post when some are done.

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My 42PX80 is currently connected to my Comcast Moto HD box via component. Will I see ANY picture improvement by using HDMI? In other words, since Comcast HD is not broadcast in 1080p, is there any benefit by using HDMI?
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I think that's exactly why I am seeing. Would the cross-hatch somewhat resemble x-like patterns? So I don't have a lemon then right?

Yes. It would also have a bit of a tint to it likely, though that may depend on the light source. Try going to the store look at it there and see if you see the same thing.
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My 42PX80 is currently connected to my Comcast Moto HD box via component. Will I see ANY picture improvement by using HDMI? In other words, since Comcast HD is not broadcast in 1080p, is there any benefit by using HDMI?

If you are using decent cables over a short throw, probably not.
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