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Damn the 42PX80U is only $1,199
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Heh its only *** through Panasonic EPP I got mine tonight and all is well. Things are working as they should, unfornately this is my first plasma so I am messing with settings quite a bit. Would the older 75 series settings be a good place to start?

What is that?

I am tempted to sell my 42PX75U that I have only had since October
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Heh its only *** through Panasonic EPP I got mine tonight and all is well. Things are working as they should, unfornately this is my first plasma so I am messing with settings quite a bit. Would the older 75 series settings be a good place to start?

Sarcoptic, would you (or anyone else who has their PX80U displays) be willing to check for the Panasonic line-bleed issue that had been reported with previous displays? There's a video of questionable quality at http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lj3gMH6cWC4 that shows a mild case of the issue; you can see some static pictures that show the issue "in the wild" at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post11817007 as well.
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What is that?

I am tempted to sell my 42PX75U that I have only had since October

I thought you were Sick of Change?

Panasonic EPP offers discounted prices on their products for employees of companies that participate in the EPP program. I don't think there's any way for persons outside of the program to use it.
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I thought you were Sick of Change?

Panasonic EPP offers discounted prices on their products for employees of companies that participate in the EPP program. I don't think there's any way for persons outside of the program to use it.

Haha

Nice man...I got my PX75U for such a nice price...but this is not that much more considering it's brand new
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Well if Panny has it through their EPP for $930 I'm sure it's going to turn up on the net for less than $900 & probably closeout at below $800 & maybe even $700. But after seeing all the closeout prices from BB, CC & etc I think they are a joke. BB 50PX75 for $1,699.99 on closeout when BrandsMart USA, Fry's, Vanns & etc had/have it for around $1,300.00

The answer is to stay out of the really big electronic stores because they are overcharging everybody especially with the buying power that they have.

I hope that this is the year that Wal-Mart will start carrying some Panasonic models maybe that will help lower the Big Electronic Chain's prices?
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The answer is to stay out of the really big electronic stores because they are overcharging everybody especially with the buying power that they have.

I hope that this is the year that Wal-Mart will start carrying some Panasonic models maybe that will help lower the Big Electronic Chain's prices?

Last I read panasonic did not want TV's to be sold in Wal Mart, has that changed?
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Panasonic generally carriesz old gear..They have a Panasonic 42inch now but its like a old model...

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I just put up the 42px80u up a couple days ago in my BB...its a nice upgrade from the 75u...but in the end it falls short of my expectations.

The black levels are definitely better, the styling isn't for me (IMO I think its hideous), colors seem accurate with mild adjustments. In the long run though, the Pio 4280 still wins out in just about every field besides price. The panny is catching up but still, the Pio easily bests it. I'm very happy that Panny is doing the single glass design though.

Hopefully the pz800's will show more improvement.
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Sorry I didn't get back any sooner. I didn't see any of the line banding issues that were outlined in the thread or youtube video. I would post pictures but I am afraid of doing more damage than good. I am not a color specialist and don't want to give the TV a bad reputation over my lack of knowledge of calibration. I will take some images of the tv and its back panel for those interested...
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I have been waiting for this new Panny model to come out, but no stores around here have them in stock. But, after calling BestBuy I found out that they have them in their warehouse and I can order one and have it in about a week. So, ordered it last night and it should be in next week. Looking forward to it. Also found a 10% off in-store printable coupon online if anyone cares. Just type in BestBuy coupon in Google and it will show up.

So.... this is my first flat panel. I currently have a 32" Hitachi CRT and was wondering what I need to do to properly set it up. I keep reading about everyone tweaking their settings, so where is a good place to start?

I also plan on getting an extended warranty and was wondering if anyone has used these people: dtvexpress.com
Much cheaper than BB's warranty, but wonder if they are as good as they claim to be. Anyone recommend a good extended warranty for a good price?
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The new TH50px80u is apparently being offered by a few on-line vendors for around $1600 with a $200 rebate and zero shipping/tax. Almost sounds too good to be true. It would be a deal for a sum total of $1400. Does anyone have any experience with these east coast dealers? I'm willing to wait a few weeks for delivery if this is legit.

I can't find anything official about the rebate, but the guy on the phone swears the set will arrive with a "Manufacturer's rebate form for $200". This concerns me.
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The new TH50px80u is apparently being offered by a few on-line vendors for around $1600 with a $200 rebate and zero shipping/tax. Almost sounds too good to be true. It would be a deal for a sum total of $1400. Does anyone have any experience with these east coast dealers? I'm willing to wait a few weeks for delivery if this is legit.

I can't find anything official about the rebate, but the guy on the phone swears the set will arrive with a "Manufacturer's rebate form for $200". This concerns me.

Be aware that if a price or offer sounds too good to be true, it probably is a scam, or a disreputable bait-and-switch vendor.

Tell us who these online vendors are, and maybe we can tell you if they're legit or not. In the meantime, look them up on Resellerratings dot com and look for any "Very Dissatisfied" reviews.

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I also plan on getting an extended warranty and was wondering if anyone has used these people: dtvexpress.com

Much cheaper than BB's warranty, but wonder if they are as good as they claim to be. Anyone recommend a good extended warranty for a good price?

DTV Express appears to be one of the many scammy online vendors owned by Plasma TV Buying Guide (a fake information site which is actually an advertising site that links their own group of online vendors).

DTV claims to have been in the online business for 10 years but i think that's a lie because there is not a single review or entry about them at Resellerratings dot com, and there should at least be something posted about them there. I would avoid them like the plague.

You can buy a very inexpensive Mack warranty from known reputable places like ClevelandPlasma and Mountavision (who both participate in this forum).

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The new TH50px80u is apparently being offered by a few on-line vendors for around $1600 with a $200 rebate and zero shipping/tax. Almost sounds too good to be true. It would be a deal for a sum total of $1400. Does anyone have any experience with these east coast dealers? I'm willing to wait a few weeks for delivery if this is legit.

I can't find anything official about the rebate, but the guy on the phone swears the set will arrive with a "Manufacturer's rebate form for $200". This concerns me.

There was recently a $200 Panasonic rebate for installation services. Basically, it covered the cost of having a Panasonic installed in your home, up to $200. You had to send in a copy of an invoice with the rebate form. However, I believe this rebate only covered purchases up to January 31, 2008. I don't know of any more recent Panasonic $200 rebates. I would not purchase a TV based on a rebate form I had not seen. Tell the online retailer to scan a copy of the rebate form and email it to you before you make any purchaes.

And certainly, as Randy said, check Reseller ratings. Reseller ratings can be confusing. If you see a lot of very positive reviews (typically with similar sentence structure/syntax) and then a number of contrary negative reviews, I would be highly suspect. Sometimes these shady dealers try to boost their ratings with fake reviews.
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There was recently a $200 Panasonic rebate for installation services. Basically, it covered the cost of having a Panasonic installed in your home, up to $200. You had to send in a copy of an invoice with the rebate form. However, I believe this rebate only covered purchases up to January 31, 2008. I don't know of any more recent Panasonic $200 rebates. I would not purchase a TV based on a rebate form I had not seen. Tell the online retailer to scan a copy of the rebate form and email it to you before you make any purchaes.

And certainly, as Randy said, check Reseller ratings. Reseller ratings can be confusing. If you see a lot of very positive reviews (typically with similar sentence structure/syntax) and then a number of contrary negative reviews, I would be highly suspect. Sometimes these shady dealers try to boost their ratings with fake reviews.

I saw the $200 one out there and it is purchases after April 1, 2008 or something like that (when the new ones come out). It must be purchased with installation, so it is basically $200 off of installation.
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Sarcoptic, would you (or anyone else who has their PX80U displays) be willing to check for the Panasonic line-bleed issue that had been reported with previous displays? There's a video of questionable quality at http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lj3gMH6cWC4 that shows a mild case of the issue; you can see some static pictures that show the issue "in the wild" at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post11817007 as well.

I have a px80, and I did notice the effect demonstrated in the youtube video when on the setup menu. A highlight bar shadow stretches across the screen. Its very noticable actually...so much so that Id tend to think its not a flaw in the display, but more of just how they render that menu selection bar. I dont notice it when I use the setup menu on my xbox360, and it has the same type of highlighting going on. I also dont see it on DVD menu or anything. Ill expressly look for it later tonight.
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The dealer in question is Pricemad.com. After reading the negative press info in Resellerratings.com, I think I'll steer clear. I appreciate the advice. Smells fishy. Especially when a $200 rebate is towards an install that doesn't exist.
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The dealer in question is Pricemad.com. After reading the negative press info in Resellerratings.com, I think I'll steer clear. I appreciate the advice. Smells fishy. Especially when a $200 rebate is towards an install that doesn't exist.

Yeah, this websites reeks. I like how all their merchant certified logos are just images without links. I'd be willing to bet my paycheck that none of these certifications are true.

Edit: Yep, check out the right column at this link "Alert! Non-CNET certified stores"

http://shopper.cnet.com/4002-5_9-5100970.html#2
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The dealer in question is Pricemad.com. After reading the negative press info in Resellerratings.com, I think I'll steer clear. I appreciate the advice. Smells fishy. Especially when a $200 rebate is towards an install that doesn't exist.

OMG they're one of the worstest most scammiest etailers on the net!

Just for fun, read some of the hundreds of horror stories on EPinions dot com:

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Online_St...splay_~reviews

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You guys have done excellent detective work. I'll steer clear!
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I just put up the 42px80u up a couple days ago in my BB...its a nice upgrade from the 75u...but in the end it falls short of my expectations.

The black levels are definitely better, the styling isn't for me (IMO I think its hideous), colors seem accurate with mild adjustments. In the long run though, the Pio 4280 still wins out in just about every field besides price. The panny is catching up but still, the Pio easily bests it. I'm very happy that Panny is doing the single glass design though.

Hopefully the pz800's will show more improvement.

Falls short overall in terms of picture quality to the pioneer? Or falls short when you compare picture quality + cost to the pioneer? I think it is important to compare displays to the best available, but it is also important to compare it with displays in its same class.

If the specs hold true and there are no serious issue with this display, I think it represents a fantastic bang for the buck. I'm really interested in this model, it is a shame that no place has it available to see it in person.
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Falls short overall in terms of picture quality to the pioneer? Or falls short when you compare picture quality + cost to the pioneer? I think it is important to compare displays to the best available, but it is also important to compare it with displays in its same class.

If the specs hold true and there are no serious issue with this display, I think it represents a fantastic bang for the buck. I'm really interested in this model, it is a shame that no place has it available to see it in person.

It falls short just in PQ to the Pioneer...the price is still better as it's 300 cheaper than the Pioneer so as far as bang for your buck goes, the px80u is where its at. Definitely better than the px75u though.
Most BestBuy's should have it, I've had this thing displayed for a good week now. It is available to order since its at our distribution centers.

On another note, the menu's are very responsive this time around, there is really no input lag like the Panny's before...or any other TV.
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It falls short just in PQ to the Pioneer...the price is still better as it's 300 cheaper than the Pioneer so as far as bang for your buck goes, the px80u is where its at. Definitely better than the px75u though.
Most BestBuy's should have it, I've had this thing displayed for a good week now. It is available to order since its at our distribution centers.

On another note, the menu's are very responsive this time around, there is really no input lag like the Panny's before...or any other TV.

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Just picked one up at a local BB. Was just going there to make sure it was the TV I wanted since my work gets EPP pricing. Told that to the rep and he matched the price, sweet!

Was replacing a sony kdl-40xbr1. Nothing wrong with it, just wanted more hdmi inputs and a less bulky flat panel. Set it up on the wall mount, turned it on, changed it to American Chopper in HD. Was in awe for a couple minutes! The picture is definitely better than the sony. SD channels are average, not terrible, not good. about the same as my sony, guess I was hoping for better picture.

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Just picked one up at a local BB. Was just going there to make sure it was the TV I wanted since my work gets EPP pricing. Told that to the rep and he matched the price, sweet!

did the employee make you verify your EPP status?
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I have a px80, and I did notice the effect demonstrated in the youtube video when on the setup menu. A highlight bar shadow stretches across the screen. Its very noticable actually...so much so that Id tend to think its not a flaw in the display, but more of just how they render that menu selection bar. I dont notice it when I use the setup menu on my xbox360, and it has the same type of highlighting going on. I also dont see it on DVD menu or anything. Ill expressly look for it later tonight.

Not to rehash the issue, but those of us that could see it in previous generations made very sure that it wasn't a source issue, tied specifically to the menu on the TV (that's just an easy and controlled way to see it). I could pick out the effect all the time in live programming on the PX77U, in things like sports (the score along the top/bottom of the screen would cause shadows extending to the left/right), movie credits, the rating screen for movies (white text against green background), etc.
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did the employee make you verify your EPP status?

No. He left for about 5 minutes after I told him about the EPP price, came back and offered it to me at that price. Before he checked I told him if it was close I would most likely buy it. I know that bb employees aren't commission based, but they have spiffs and quota's to meet. So maybe being the end of the month helped.

He was very easy to get along with, no pressure at all.
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