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post #181 of 5782 Old 03-07-2008, 07:02 PM
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Now where in the blankety **** did you get your TH-50PX80U??? :-)
We are in Central Illinois and our Best Buy said in a few weeks......famous last words.
Anyways, anything (settings etc.) you can share with us on you new Panny would be appreciated.

I got mine here:
http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-e...00000000005702

Pay no attention to the Pre-Order - Ships Early April stuff. I ordered it 2/19 and it shipped from San Diego almost immediately. It arrive in Michigan on the 27th.

They aren't hard to find. Since you're in Illinois, Abt in the Chicago area has them in stock, and with free shipping when I grabbed this link for you:
http://www.**************.com/product/33566.html

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Does anyone have the dimensions and/or weight of the box that this model comes in?

I was wondering the same thing so I contacted Panasonic and they told me: 31.9" x 45.2" x 13.1"

They were very helpful, A+ for customer service
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Does anyone have recommended picture settings for the TH-50PZ85U?
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Does anyone have recommended picture settings for the TH-50PZ85U?

Not to be a dipstick, but why don't you ask in the PZ85 thread.
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Has anyone had a chance to compare the 50PX80U to the 50PX75U.
Im wondering if these newer ones will handle SD better than the 75U? I have a 50PX75U that I can still return but dont know if the 80U is worth the several hundred more to me.
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Thanks alot k3k3k3 for the details. I guess I'm going to make a trip my my local BB and check it out.
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Hello to everyone, I have been lurking for a few months researching. I was leaning to the 50PX75U but decided to wait once I heard about the 80U models. Just a fyi , in today's Fry's ad in the Dallas area the have both the 42 and 50 PX80U on sale so I will stopping by to check them out.
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I purchased a Samsung 4254 plasma a week ago and I have been very unhappy with it. It has a judder problem and is unfixable atm. On top of that the PQ is kinda grainy on all inputs. cable with hdmi and xbox360 with component. No matter what I do as far as settings it never completely gets rid of it.

I went back to cc today looking around and thinking about returning it. A sales guy came up to me today. I told him i was very unhappy with my Samsung then he quickly pointed out to me a TH42PX80U he said he just got them in a week ago and there great tv's. I spent hours looking at that tv and comparing them and the pq was great.

Really I am just wondering how good is this unit compared to my 4254 . Is it worth the 200$ extra? Is it grainy like my tv ? I would hope there is no judder like that samsung

Im kinda new to the whole lcd/plasma thing and I just want the best I can get for my money. I also saw this samsung 4061 1080p for the same price it was very tempting
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I just picked a 42PX80U last week. The PQ is very very good. Black levels are great and detail is pretty good. My only gripe would be the speakers. Seems like they are way too mid-rangey. I've done all the sound adjusting I could possibly do and can't get to sound decent. For movies I have it running through my NHT's, but for normal viewing I like to just use TV speaks. This TV is a replacement for my 46" Sammy DLP (speakers on that were awesome). HDDVD looks stunning. The raining oil scene in Jarhead was a good test and The Descent in HD off DTV was insane too. Other than the audio, I have no complaints.
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Briz600, I was really in the same position as you when looking for plasma's & I was all set to go with the Samsung 64 because it has great features on it compared to the other brands but after reading all the problems with the Samsung's here I decided to go for a 42" Panasonic & after looking around for awhile I discovered that on March 24th Costco will be selling the 2007 42" Panasonic TH-42PZ700U for $1,099.99 which Best Buy, Circuit City & Sears originally sold for $1,999.99 so that's the model I'm going with.

My thinking was a Top-Of-The-Line Model vs an 2008 Entry Level Model but if you have a really bright room than I would go for the new Panny PZ80.

The Panny at Costco also comes with a 2 Year Warranty compared to Panny's 1 Year Warranty plus Costco has a no questions 90 day return policy so you just might want to check out that Panny TH-PZ700U at Costco.

The new Panasonic PZ800 that's replacing the PZ700 won't be in for awhile & the 42" one will be selling for around $1,800 to $1,900

If you want the specs, pictures & etc on the Panasonic TH-42PZ700U go to www.crutchfield.com & enter the model number in the "Search Box" & it will come up.
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Curious as to where you found info on Costco's coupon or end prices. I have the coupon, and it could be for the PZ77 *OR* the PZ700, with no price mentioned anywhere.
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Wow thanks for the heads up. I may just go that direction also.
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I called my local Costco & that's the info they gave me plus in some other posts somewhere? here people have said that some of the Costco's already have the TH-PZ42700U & I was surprised it wasn't a "PE" Costco type model but the regular model PZ700U.

I too was concerned that it might be the PZ77U with the Anti-Glare screen which I din't want anything to do with plus the set is a present for my daughter & she wants one that has a PC Input so when I called Costco that was another thing I wanted to know.

Also after seeing the post above about the sound quality on the PX80 the PZ700 does have Panny's best sound system in it & did I forget to mention that this is a 1080p set not a 768p one like the PX80.

Originally when this set first came out some places were selling it for Panny's MSRP of $2,499.99 & Best Buy one week in July of 07 had it on Sale for $2,224.99 so at $1,099.99 I think it's a steal!

Oh Costco told me a membership will cost me $50.00 so I have to add that on & the A/V Manager told me there would be plenty of the $200 OFF Coupons at the desk & not to worry about it.

I'll bet Panny had a lot of trouble trying to move a 42" set for around $2,000 & they din't sell that many & they were looking to clean out their warehouse's for the 2008 models & they gave Costco a Great Deal on them to get rid of them. Happy Hunting!
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Thanks, Bill...I've been watching the 42PZ700 as well.
Best,
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Hey guys, shouldn't the PZ700's be discussed in a different forum?
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Hey guys, shouldn't the PZ700's be discussed in a different forum?

Well it's the right forum, but the wrong thread . . . . .

>>> Click Here for the Master PZ700U Thread <<<

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I just picked a 42PX80U last week. The PQ is very very good. Black levels are great and detail is pretty good. My only gripe would be the speakers. Seems like they are way too mid-rangey. I've done all the sound adjusting I could possibly do and can't get to sound decent. For movies I have it running through my NHT's, but for normal viewing I like to just use TV speaks. This TV is a replacement for my 46" Sammy DLP (speakers on that were awesome). HDDVD looks stunning. The raining oil scene in Jarhead was a good test and The Descent in HD off DTV was insane too. Other than the audio, I have no complaints.

The problem with what you perceive as poor sound is due to the laws of physics. A small speaker in a small enclosure equals poor bass. Read a little about speaker design and Hemholtz Resonators. I find the sound from the Panasonic quite remarkable considering the science of sound and the engineering design of speakers and speaker enclosures.

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The problem with what you perceive as poor sound is due to the laws of physics. A small speaker in a small enclosure equals poor bass. Read a little about speaker design and Hemholtz Resonators. I find the sound from the Panasonic quite remarkable considering the science of sound and the engineering design of speakers and speaker enclosures.

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So, are you saying, if I "read a little about speaker design" I would appreciate how unremarkable the Panny's speakers sound? Do you own one of these TV's(42PX80U)? If so, what settings to you have the audio at?


-donnie

p.s. I wasn't complaining about the bass. I was saying the audio sounds like it has too much Mid-Range. Thanks.
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So, are you saying, if I "read a little about speaker design" I would appreciate how unremarkable the Panny's speakers sound? Do you own one of these TV's(42PX80U)? If so, what settings to you have the audio at?


-donnie

p.s. I wasn't complaining about the bass. I was saying the audio sounds like it has too much Mid-Range. Thanks.

Yes, I own one. Too much mid-range may be a result of a lack of bass. Try increasing both treble and bass to, in essence, reduce the mids. Have you turned on the bass boost?

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Yes, I own one. Too much mid-range may be a result of a lack of bass. Try increasing both treble and bass to, in essence, reduce the mids. Have you turned on the bass boost?

Larry

Nice....this set has bass boost for it's speakers? Looking forward to receiving my set and playing with all of the settings.

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I went to CC yesterday to sleuth HTiB's for my soon to arrive (on Tuesday) 50PX80. To The right of a 50PX75U...I think it was,isn't that one a 720P?...was a bigger Sony 1080p LCD. Frankly, it was blowing the Panasonic away. Of course it should for something like 2 grand more
I couldn't tell the qualitative difference the other day while comparing 720 vs, 1080 plasmas at Fry's, but the difference was CLEARLY obvious in this case.
What I found much more interesting however was the comparison btween the px75u, and the 1080p Panny (700U?) to the left. As these tvs were closely lined up with the same HD feed, I could see that the Sony had a "tighter" pixel pattern than the 1080p as well. But thats an issue of $$$ more than any criticism of the Panasonics.
The sets (Yeah. I know. Showing my age with the word "set") in question were the Panny 50PZ77U, Panny PX75U, and Sony 52KDL 52W3000

The sets (Yeah. I know. Showing my age with the word "set") in question were the Panny 50PZ77U, Panny PX75U, and Sony 52KDL 52W3000

The Sony LCD blows away the Panny plasma in what way? 2 things I know, Sony LCD is waay brighter and the 720p vs 1080p. Resolution and brightness are not everything.

I have a Panny 58" PX600 and a Sony 46W3000. Yes the Sony is blindingly bright, has super-saturated colors, and is 1080p. But I stick to the plasma for watching cable TV (SA8300 HD recorder), it has better contrast and more natural color for regular TV. My Sony 46W3000 is for HTPC (DVD & HD-DVD), and PS3/Wii.

I'm waiting for the PZ800/850. My next TV must NOT use 3:2 pulldown for 1080p24 source.
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Just bought a 50PX80U this weekend online. Hoping to get it by friday, next monday at the latest. I'll post some pics and settings once i get everything connected.

Haven't seen anyone mention this yet. I know there was talk about new pannys being more efficient this year, and turns out likely wont happen till new plant opens. While obsessively researching this TV came across this info from Crutchfield.

Power On (Manufacturer) 50PX75U -- 499 max W, 50PX80U -- 497 max W
Power On (Crutchfield test) 50PX75U -- 365.5 W, 50PX80U -- 187.85 W

According to their tests, new 50" panel is almost 2x as efficient as last years!

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The manufacturer power number in the user manual specifications is a peak/maximum level like with an all bright white screen. The other number is more likely a typical average power level with more typical average display patterns and its normally 1/2 or less than the peak level.
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The manufacturer power number in the user manual specifications is a peak/maximum level like with an all bright white screen. The other number is more likely a typical average power level with more typical average display patterns and its normally 1/2 or less than the peak level.

I realize that. I was referring more to the fact that this years 720p 50" panel uses 1/2 the juice as last years 720p 50" panel.

At least according to the tests crutchfield performed.
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Does the px80 have a headphone output? It annoyed me that last years models didn't have a pc input and also no headphone from what I remember. It's nice to be able to plug in some decent Klipsch or Logitech speakers right to the tv and not have to full around with a receiver.
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Does the px80 have a headphone output? It annoyed me that last years models didn't have a pc input and also no headphone from what I remember. It's nice to be able to plug in some decent Klipsch or Logitech speakers right to the tv and not have to full around with a receiver.

No headphone output, no VGA input, but it does have a very useful 3rd HDMI connector on the front panel

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The Sony LCD blows away the Panny plasma in what way? 2 things I know, Sony LCD is waay brighter and the 720p vs 1080p. Resolution and brightness are not everything.

As I said, when I compared them, settings may have been a significant factor.

That reiterated, when I went back to verifiy the models, there was a scene from Heroes(?) which was pretty dark, and the Sony was showing a better level of detail in those dark areas (for instance, the texture of a black girl's hair)than either of the 720p or 1080p Panasonics. Also, I saw the pixel pattern on the Panasonic 1080p before I did on the Sony.

As set up in that store, Joe Consumer -yeah any dilettante like me- was likely going to be more impressed with the Sony than the Panasonics.

And BTW, my 50PX80 will be going up on my wall tomorrow...
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longtime lurker here, though I am still new to pdp's. I just bought a 42px80 this weekend, this is my first hdtv. I was wondering if anyone could recommend me some color settings. Also, have any of you broken in your px80 yet and if so what setting should I use to do so?
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OK, I was all set to buy a 4280HD Kuro this morning but a quick price check indicates almost a $600+ price premium with the Kuro over the Panny 42PX80. Interestingly, the price for the remaining Kuro's has risen in the last few days....

After reading every post in this thread, I'm thinking maybe it's not worth the @35% price premium to get the Pioneer. I'm a Pio fan and have two of their plasma's now but that's a big $$$ jump.

Any thoughts from others?
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