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Press Releases:

PDP-5020FD/6020FD

PRO-101FD/111FD/141FD/151FD


Pricing:
  • PDP-5020FD $4000 MSRP
  • PDP-6020FD $5500 MSRP
  • PRO-111FD $5000 MSRP
  • PRO-151FD $6500 MSRP
  • PRO-101FD $5500 MSRP
  • PRO-141FD $7000 MSRP


PDP-5020FD/6020FD Specs:

- High-Definition 1080p Resolution (1920 x 1080p)

- 50”/60" Diagonal Class / 16:9 Wide-Screen Aspect Ratio

- New Deeper Intense Blacks for Unmatched Contrast (5x Previous Generation)

- New Thinner Cosmetic Design

- New Home Media Gallery

- Exclusive cell structure with crystal emissive layer for a more intense black with added detail

- Improved filter for enhanced contrast in bright environments

- Improved ASIC video processing and scaling for the ultimate in Standard-Definition and High-Definition video performance

- Detachable bottom speaker with fully integrated digital amplifier for ››pristine clarity and accuracy of sound

- New, Improved Optimum Mode. Automatically analyzes and adjusts audio and video settings according to specific room light conditions and type of light and color. Program content is also monitored and finely adjusted so movies, sports and news are all faithfully reproduced. Includes OSD with status.

- Smooth Film mode to eliminate motion judder in 3:2 Pulldown (60Hz) ››providing natural even playback of content created by film

- 4 Independent HDMI 1.3 inputs with HDMI-CEC control and the ability ››to accept 1080p 24/60Hz signal

- Room Light Sensor for automatic picture adjustment

- Standard 3:2 (60Hz) and Advanced PureCinema with 3:3 Pulldown (72Hz) for accurate playback of film content

- Fully Integrated ATSC and NTSC Tuner with Clear QAM

- V-Chip Parental Control

- Remote Control – Glow in the dark / Preset Mode

- A/V Selection Memory – 7 options for viewing preferences: Optimum / Dynamic / Performance / Movie / Sports / Game / Standard (PC input: only for Standard)

- Aspect Ratio Control – 9 positions: Auto* / Full / “Dot by Dot” / Zoom* / Cinema* / 4:3 / Wide* (only for SD) / Wide1* (only for HD) / Wide2* (only for HD) *Except PC signal

- Advanced Picture-in-Picture (4 positions), Picture-side-Picture 3 positions) and Still Picture capability

- After-Image Reduction Function
- Orbiter (Off / Mode 1 / Mode 2)
- Auto Size (Off/ Natural / Wide-Zoom) Side Mask Detection (Mode 1 – for black side masks / Mode 2 – for black & illustrated side masks)
- Side Mask Brightness Sync (Fixed / Auto)
- Video Pattern (White Bar)
- Game Control Preference (AV Selection: only Game) (Off / On)

- Room Light Sensor (Off / Mode 1 / Mode 2)



PRO-111FD/151FD Specs:

- High-Definition 1080p Resolution (1920 x 1080p)

- 50”/60" Diagonal Class / 16:9 Wide-Screen Aspect Ratio

- 1080 Progressive Image Reproduction with ability to accept 480i / 480p / 720p / 1080i / and TRUE 1080p 24fps signals

- New Deeper, Intense Blacks for Unmatched Contrast (5x Previous Generation)

- New Thinner Cosmetic Design with ››Elegant Acrylic Bezel

- New, Improved Optimum Mode. Automatically analyses and adjusts audio and video settings according to specific room light conditions and type of light and color. Program content is also monitored and finely adjusted so movies, sports and news are all faithfully reproduced. Includes OSD with status.

- New External Color Sensor

- Room Light Sensor for automatic picture adjustment adjustment

- PureCinema Smooth Film Motion mode to eliminate motion jutter in 3:2 Pulldown (60Hz) providing natural even playback of content created on film

- 4 Independent HDMI 1.3 inputs with HDMI-CEC control and the ability ››to accept 1080p 24/60Hz signal

- Standard 3:2 (60Hz) and Advanced PureCinema with 3:3 Pulldown (72Hz) for accurate playback of film content

- Fully integrated ATSC and NTSC Tuner with Clear QAM

- Home Media Gallery – offering a multimedia experience to enjoy movies, music and photos through an existing home network or USB memory device

- ISFccc Calibration Ready for professional customization of plasma picture according to personal preferences for contrast, tint, color as well as room conditions for both day and nighttime viewing. Includes:
- Independent Gamma Control (R / G / B) for heightened color ––calibration

- V-Chip Parental Control

- Remote Control – Illuminated / Preset Mode / Learning Mode

- New Advanced Redesigned GUI

- A/V Selection Memory – 10 options for viewing preferences: Optimum / Performance / Sports / Movie / PURE / Game / Standard*/ ISF-Day / ISF-Night / ISF-Auto (PC input: only Standard)

- Aspect Ratio Control – 9 positions: Auto* / Full / “Dot by Dot” / Zoom* / Cinema* / 4:3 / Wide* (only for SD) / Wide1* (only for HD) / Wide2* (only for HD) *Except PC signal

- Advanced Picture-in-Picture (4 positions), Picture-side-Picture for use with Home Media Gallery & Broadcast and Still Picture capability

- After-Image Reduction Function
- Orbiter (Off / Mode 1 / Mode 2)
- Auto Size (Off/ Natural / Wide-Zoom)
- Side Mask Detection (Mode 1 – for black side masks / Mode 2 – for black & illustrated side masks)
- Side Mask Brightness Sync (Fixed / Auto)
- Video Pattern (White Bar)
- Game Control Preference (AV Selection: only Game) (Off / On)

- Fine Tune Setting for ultimate picture control of color temperature, noise reduction and color management

- Intelligent Mode (Off / Mode 1 / Mode 2)

- Room Light Sensor & New External Color Sensor (Off / Mode 1 / Mode 2)




PRO-101FD/141FD Signature Series Specs:

TBA


Pictures:

PDP-6020FD



PRO-151FD



PRO-141FD



Manuals:

PDP-5020FD/6020FD

PRO-111FD/151FD

PRO-101FD/141FD


Cut Sheets:

 

PRO-111FD.pdf 434.0068359375k . file

 

PRO-151FD.pdf 494.7021484375k . file

 

PDP-5020FD.pdf 437.9287109375k . file

 

PDP-6020FD.pdf 476.560546875k . file
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Here is my review of the 6020FD. Many thanks to Robert at Value Electronics for sending me an evaluation unit.

 

Pioneer PDP-6020FD Review.pdf 330.4296875k . file
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Here is my review of the 111FD. Again, many thanks to Robert at Value Electronics for sending me this unit. And a special thank you to AVS member drkddell for painstakingly proofing my work.

 

Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD Review.pdf 266.8896484375k . file
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D-Nice ... is there a good chance we can start seeing the 5020s in local B&M stores (best buy, magnolia, etc) by early June?

Also, any idea if Pioneer has made any internal design changes to the 9Gs to address the buzzing noise (reported by folks in the buzzing thread)
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I'm so excited.

How soon before you get your hands on a 9g and put up some settings?

Patience has its rewards.
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D-Nice ... is there a good chance we can start seeing the 5020s in local B&M stores (best buy, magnolia, etc) by early June?

Also, any idea if Pioneer has made any internal design changes to the 9Gs to address the buzzing noise (reported by folks in the buzzing thread)

BB should have then by week 3 of June.

Buzzing??? What Buzz New power supplies in the 9Gs.
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Alas, that Pro 141FD does not appear to have a thinner bezel...it seems it is only thinner in terms of depth, not width.
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I'm so excited.

How soon before you get your hands on a 9g and put up some settings?

That's up to Pioneer
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These should be great displays.

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D-Nice,
Can you post black level specs and brightness specs?

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What is this "Seamless Orbiter"?

Does that mean no black bar on the sides of the image when it's being shifted?
No more smearing in Dot by Dot when using 1080 line patterns, as some have reported?

Patience has its rewards.
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hey D-nice, great stuff, might want to fix the availability on the pricing matrix you got there....according to the press releases the elites are coming June. Finally an official thread.
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Can you post black level specs and brightness specs?

Chris

Not until I get my hands on one. Pioneer does not "officially" have those numbers. I cannot post the "unofficial" ones beyond what I have previously posted.

Maximum peak brightness will still be lower compared to....say Panasonic.
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God, they are so close yet so far...

Pioneer is just cruel for taunting us the way they are... by the way anyone know the canadian MRSP?
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D-Nice,

Thanks for the official thread.

Everyone:
I need some guidance on my second TV purchase. I posted a while ago in one of the predecessor threads about a two-TV setup in my new house. The media room will have an elite 60" -151. My dilemma involves the family room, which is suited for a 50".

Should I:

A) grab one of the close out 8G elite -1150s (my seating distance is ~13')
B) go for one of the remaining 8G 5010s
C) wait for the 9G 5020

Springing for BOTH a -111 and 151 is simply not in the financial cards.

Any suggestions?

KDD
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i wonder what the contrast ratio will be. its gotta be better than panasonics so called 1,000,000 to 1.
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Are the dimensions known yet (bezel to bezel width, pedestal depth)? Same as last year?
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Look out ****** little Toshiba 27" CRT, the day has finally come for you to take up residence in my parent's room as their "oh crap I'm falling asleep so I'll 'watch' some TV"...TV.

The wait has been excruciating, but well worth it. I feel as if I may ruin my life for the first few months I have this thing.

As for brightness, so long it can output reference whites, thats fine by me...
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Are the dimensions known yet (bezel to bezel width, pedestal depth)? Same as last year?

Most likely the same as last year, or very close.

Patience has its rewards.
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Alas, that Pro 141FD does not appear to have a thinner bezel...it seems it is only thinner in terms of depth, not width.

Yep....


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Start licking your chops right now.

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Display THAT LCD!

Patience has its rewards.
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i wonder what the contrast ratio will be. its gotta be better than panasonics so called 1,000,000 to 1.

The maximum native (on/off) contrast ratio is 100,000:1. Post calibration, with a peak brightness level set @ 40fL, the contrast ratio will be between 40,000:1 and 50,000:1.

There is nothing out there that comes close besides the Kuro projector (JVC clone).
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Any word on Tru2way compatibility?
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Gallery of Bliss!!!!

Chris

Holy cow!

Thanks Chris.

Patience has its rewards.
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