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post #30931 of 30942 Old 04-12-2015, 06:38 AM
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sooooooo............what would be a good replacement if one couldn't find a 60" kuro for a reasonable price? also aside from price, age of these tv's are now beginning to bother me. i'm not too keen on blowing $1k-$2k for a unit that maybe 6 plus yrs old and only last me a few months. fast forward to yesterday where i took a trip to my local magnolia/bestbuy store. after talking to the rep for a while (explaining my concerns and what i already own) he showed me 2 tv's that he highly recommended. the sony 65" x900b and the newer sony 65" x950b. i'm not gonna lie, but i was impressed with the x900b, but the 950 has the nicer bezel. the prices are $3700 vs $6000 for a 65".

its hard to find a tv that can kill the elites when it comes to pic quality, but of all the new tv's i saw yesterday. the high end sony ones were the best. i would love to hear what other previous elite owners moved on to, or did you continue the hunt/risk for another kuro panel?
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I moved to a Sony W905 (UK name) and have been pretty pleased with it.

Sharper than the Pioneer, much nicer looking, a light sensor that works really, really well (always turned them off previously) and much better to use daily with Plex and loads of other apps built in. I have gone back to just a TV and a pair of Meridian DSP Speakers, a very clean and simple set up that sounds great.
So nice to have everything built into the TV.

The one thing the Sony struggles with is doing proper black when there is quite a lot of bright areas on screen at the same time. But otherwise the picture is good, just not as good as my old Kuro, by a long shot.

I bought this knowing it was a step back picture wise, but I wanted a nice looking TV that didn't dominate the room.

As soon as there is a 47" OLED I will buy one of those, LED displays are getting 'watchable' but even the best ones are so far behind plasma still, and you won't notice where they are behind in a store, it is when you get home and the lights are low that you start to realise their shortfalls.
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I moved to a Sony W905 (UK name) and have been pretty pleased with it.

Sharper than the Pioneer, much nicer looking, a light sensor that works really, really well (always turned them off previously) and much better to use daily with Plex and loads of other apps built in. I have gone back to just a TV and a pair of Meridian DSP Speakers, a very clean and simple set up that sounds great.
So nice to have everything built into the TV.

The one thing the Sony struggles with is doing proper black when there is quite a lot of bright areas on screen at the same time. But otherwise the picture is good, just not as good as my old Kuro, by a long shot.

I bought this knowing it was a step back picture wise, but I wanted a nice looking TV that didn't dominate the room.

As soon as there is a 47" OLED I will buy one of those, LED displays are getting 'watchable' but even the best ones are so far behind plasma still, and you won't notice where they are behind in a store, it is when you get home and the lights are low that you start to realise their shortfalls.
so OLED is the way to go then, in terms of trying to match plasma?? not many stores carry decent plasma's anymore and the good ones are all gone or going for silly money on eBay (brand new in box asking for at least double their original retail price)

i see you're in norwich. i'm originally from south london, but been to kings lynn a couple of times
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Kings Lynn eh? I'm surprised you choose the East Bay over Kings Lynn!!
God that place has some odd people. haha



I have just looked at the new 55" LG OLED and think it is stunning, few people on avforums are now getting theirs and seem to be reviewing it well. I am waiting though as they said a 47" version is coming, but of you want 65" then definitely look at it.
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Kings Lynn eh? I'm surprised you choose the East Bay over Kings Lynn!!
God that place has some odd people. haha



I have just looked at the new 55" LG OLED and think it is stunning, few people on avforums are now getting theirs and seem to be reviewing it well. I am waiting though as they said a 47" version is coming, but of you want 65" then definitely look at it.
lolz.......i need to update my new location. i just moved to naples florida @ 4-5 weeks ago. california is waaaaaay to expensive to live........its so unaffordable now. there's a brit pub down the road not too far from my new place of residence, so i'll be checking that out asap

OLED is having some issues too from what i've just been reading about. its a shame plasma is now gone
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lolz.......i need to update my new location. i just moved to naples florida @ 4-5 weeks ago. california is waaaaaay to expensive to live........its so unaffordable now. there's a brit pub down the road not too far from my new place of residence, so i'll be checking that out asap

OLED is having some issues too from what i've just been reading about. its a shame plasma is now gone
I think this gen that is just arriving in stores seems to have sorted most of them out, colour tinges etc. now gone, just a bit of noise at the very lowest ire levels, but no more than the dithering on Pioneers.

I could be wrong, but that is what I can gather from reading up, and the one I saw looked stunning.
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Help! 13 blinking lights pioneer elite pro 507pu

I have a Pioneer Elite Pro 507PU, and after many years of not having any trouble with it, it would not come on today and it started with a blinking blue light that flashes 13 times.
I have seen on many forums that peoples TV's have blinked 12 times, but mine is blinking 13 times. I also have not had any luck with any information about how to trouble shoot the 507PU. If anyone out there can tell me how to fix my TV or at least tell me what the 13 blinking lights mean, I would appreciate it.
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My choice of display to replace my Kuro would be an OLED?

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7 years later and the kuro is still being used to compare to other displays-

Vizio Reference Series HDR UHDTVs at 2015 Product Showcase

The demo is obviously not accurate and they made the kuro look worse as possible. Just like panasonic did.
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i have a question about the different VS or HZ modes on the Kuros.

does anyone have an facts how different HZ affects the picture quality and in what way?
i run my KRP-500A from a PC for watching movies nowdays as i sold my old BDP LX58 Blu Ray player.

i have tested and tried to compare different modes but its hard to see any real changes in picture quality
what i know and whats visible is that you get an almost flicker free and calm image with 50HZ and Drive mode2
that puts the Kuro up to 100hz.
the tv also buzzes less with 100hz compared to 72Hz.

one other thing is that whiteballance changes from 72hz to 100hz.
another problem that is logical is that motion gets slight worse when you play 24p content at 50Hz (100hz)
but not as much as you may think and not as bad as it is worth getting more flicker for.

i read an old review some time ago from a 8G kuro and they explained the different Drive modes.
there it said that you get worse picture quality and worse blacklevel with higher HZ ?
as for blacklevel i havnt noticed any change.

just curious on how HZ is related to picture quality and whats optimal (if you dont include motion handling)

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When using audio analog outs from the kuro, 75 and 60Hz (drive mode 1 and 3) the sound is exactly the same, but it changes (worse) at 100Hz (mode 2), so something tells me this mode is worse than the other 2.
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got my 151fd in july 2008 and it is still great - picture is great, have had no problems with the set.

it is a shame that pioneer couldn't make money making tvs.

i would only consider an oled to replace my pioneer.
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