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Yup, it looks way to easy on the youtube videos until you see firsthand just how tiny the components on the board are.
I thought I was a big shot because I could fix Onkyo Receivers with HDMI issue buy soldering on a couple capacitors. Tried one one of those little chips on a Plasma board. No way. Beyond my skills.
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Yup, it looks way to easy on the youtube videos until you see firsthand just how tiny the components on the board are.

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I see you added a JVC DLA-RS4810 to your list of toys.
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Makaveddie,

I see you added a JVC DLA-RS4810 to your list of toys.
Yeah, I've had it for a few months. I also added a 151fd and sold a 111fd.

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Yeah, I've had it for a few months. I also added a 151fd and sold a 111fd.
Yeah, I've had my 4810 when they first came out. However its been sitting in storage for about a year now. I may be looking at getting a 141 if the price is right and the set is in good shape. I really don't need it have too many sets now. But I have been giving the "lower" quality set to family members.

Gonna give away the VT25 and older Sharp. Keeping the Sharp Elite, 151, F8500 and of course the 4k LG OLEDC6.

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Yeah, I've had my 4810 when they first came out. However its been sitting in storage for about a year now. I may be looking at getting a 141 if the price is right and the set is in good shape. I really don't need it have too many sets now. But I have been giving the "lower" quality set to family members.

Gonna give away the VT25 and older Sharp. Keeping the Sharp Elite, 151, F8500 and of course the 4k LG OLEDC6.
How would you compare that VT25 to your other stuff? I picked up a 65VT25 broken fixed it and sold it to a friend. I never had time to calibrate it or do any critical viewing but the time I had it I was quite impressed.

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Yeah, I've had my 4810 when they first came out. However its been sitting in storage for about a year now. I may be looking at getting a 141 if the price is right and the set is in good shape. I really don't need it have too many sets now. But I have been giving the "lower" quality set to family members.

Gonna give away the VT25 and older Sharp. Keeping the Sharp Elite, 151, F8500 and of course the 4k LG OLEDC6.
I hardly use mine as my landlord won't let me drill any holes to mount it or my screen. My main room, with its light beige walls is not the ideal environment for it it anyways, so will put it to better use when my living situation improves.

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How would you compare that VT25 to your other stuff? I picked up a 65VT25 broken fixed it and sold it to a friend. I never had time to calibrate it or do any critical viewing but the time I had it I was quite impressed.
VT25 was no comparison at all to F8500 or the Sharp Elite in every way in terms of PQ.
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I hardly use mine as my landlord won't let me drill any holes to mount it or my screen. My main room, with its light beige walls is not the ideal environment for it it anyways, so will put it to better use when my living situation improves.
Yeah that would suck not be able to watch the PJ with a nice screen.
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Yeah that would suck not be able to watch the PJ with a nice screen.
I do have a 0.8 gain floor pull up screen. It doesn't have any anti reflection properties so my black level gets washed by the light reflecting from the light beige walls.

If you've used the RS4810 in a proper room, how would its black level compare to a 9th gen Kuro (excluding 101 and 500m).

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I do have a 0.8 gain floor pull up screen. It doesn't have any anti reflection properties so my black level gets washed by the light reflecting from the light beige walls.

If you've used the RS4810 in a proper room, how would its black level compare to a 9th gen Kuro (excluding 101 and 500m).
I can't provide any feedback on that. I am just now getting into being actual Kuro fanboy! This is the 1st time having in my possession. My 4810 has been boxed up for about a year now as I just moved back west after spending time in the SE. But when I get my own spot, the will be hooked up in the same room for comparison. But going off memory I would have to say that 9th Gen Kuro has much better blacks than the 4810. My 4810 was in designated room with black walls and black carpet. However I had a ZeroEdge screen which takes away from the black level.

OK.... sorry everyone.... no more talk on the 4810! We can take it to the official 4810 thread.
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Would anyone happen to know what the last 151/111/6020/5020 firmware update addressed?

Sofware Version : 0907-401
Hardware Version: 0x351
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Would anyone happen to know what the last 151/111/6020/5020 firmware update addressed?

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If I remember correctly it fixes something in the OTA tuner software. The updated software corrects the channel display for each OTA channel.

Also, these Kuros do not like the newer USB sticks with partitions. To get mine to work on my 111 I had to find an older USB stick from 2008-2009 years.

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If I remember correctly it fixes something in the OTA tuner software. The updated software corrects the channel display for each OTA channel.

Also, these Kuros do not like the newer USB sticks with partitions. To get mine to work on my 111 I had to find an older USB stick from 2008-2009 years.

All the best.
Yep. I piggybacked a 1GB microSD (not SDHC) card to a SD to USB adapter.

After upgrading one Kuro, I had to reformat the card and copy the file again as it wouldn't take when attempting to upgrade two Kuro's successively.

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About two or three years ago I did the firmware upgrade because I am OTA and it fixed some tuner problems. I had the USB stick partition problem with the download, however, Pioneer then sent me a USB stick with the firmware on it that worked just fine. I have no idea if they still have them available today.

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I'm tempted to buy some of these UHDs. Leon, The Fifth Element, Dracula, etc are some of my dream movies. However, I'm just not willing to sacrifice my Kuro for a 4K display just yet. I have too many DVDs/Blus that look fantastic on it, not to mention everything else I throw at it.

So would I be waisting my money on a Sony X800 UHD player? I have a 5020FD with an Elite board calibrated by D-Nice (now has .005ml), and was curious if I would notice any uptick in detail, colors, etc? I realize it isn't a 4K display but these discs still offer much higher bitrate so was thinking downscaled on the Kuro it should look superior correct?

The only reservation I have is that my Kuro was calibrated with Blu-ray standard in mind (REC709 or whatever). Will the new 10-bit processing of UHDs (excuse my ignorance or lack of knowlege on the topic) look okay on the Kuro or will colors/black levels be off? Will I have to re-calibrate my set? I'm hoping not, and that I can see an increase in detail. I'm not as interested in HDR as I am the increase in sharpness/detail. I upgraded to Blu-ray for the increase of detail and I imagine this will be similar, albeit on a smaller scale (which is okay). Some of these films releasing I wouldn't hesitate to triple dip so money isn't a huge factor. I just don't want to buy another tv when my Kuro works perfectly fine.

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I'm tempted to buy some of these UHDs. Leon, The Fifth Element, Dracula, etc are some of my dream movies. However, I'm just not willing to sacrifice my Kuro for a 4K display just yet. I have too many DVDs/Blus that look fantastic on it, not to mention everything else I throw at it.

So would I be waisting my money on a Sony X800 UHD player? I have a 5020FD with an Elite board calibrated by D-Nice (now has .005ml), and was curious if I would notice any uptick in detail, colors, etc? I realize it isn't a 4K display but these discs still offer much higher bitrate so was thinking downscaled on the Kuro it should look superior correct?

The only reservation I have is that my Kuro was calibrated with Blu-ray standard in mind (REC709 or whatever). Will the new 10-bit processing of UHDs (excuse my ignorance or lack of knowlege on the topic) look okay on the Kuro or will colors/black levels be off? Will I have to re-calibrate my set? I'm hoping not, and that I can see an increase in detail. I'm not as interested in HDR as I am the increase in sharpness/detail. I upgraded to Blu-ray for the increase of detail and I imagine this will be similar, albeit on a smaller scale (which is okay). Some of these films releasing I wouldn't hesitate to triple dip so money isn't a huge factor. I just don't want to buy another tv when my Kuro works perfectly fine.
I think it would be a waste of money to buy a 4k player and 4k blurays and then play them on a 1080P tv. The player will have to be set to output 1080p and it will down scale the native 4k material to 1080p so the kuro can play it. There may be a slight increase in detail but the real advantage of 4k blurays is HDR not resolution.
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Pro-150FD has a purple line on the right...

After a couple months trying to make my Meridian speakers work correctly with my Pro-150FD TV, the Elite has developed a purple line towards the right side of the screen, not the whole vertical distance but about half. I really like this TV so I want to fix it if it's relatively easy.

I need to find out if it is something user fixable w/o taking it apart. I need to find out if it is always there or if it comes in after the set warms up. I also have a calibration disc but I haven't used it yet. Is there some way to adjust colors, etc., with the TV's remote? Is it possible it is just an adjustment?

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I think it would be a waste of money to buy a 4k player and 4k blurays and then play them on a 1080P tv. The player will have to be set to output 1080p and it will down scale the native 4k material to 1080p so the kuro can play it. There may be a slight increase in detail but the real advantage of 4k blurays is HDR not resolution.
I guess I was hoping that watching a 4k blu-ray on the kuro would be similar to the blu-rays that are 'mastered in 4k'. Over the past couple years we've seen Sony do this and I've bought every one of those 'Supreme Cinema' series blu-rays (Dracula, Leon, Crouching Tiger, etc) and Ghostbusterers 1/2, Bad Boys 1/2, etc that are all 'Mastered in 4k'. While their not true 4k, the detail increase is evident on the Kuro. Shouldn't a typical 4k blu-ray behave similarly? Since I already buy 'Mastered in 4K' blu-rays, then I may as well buy the real 4k version for a few dollars more. Plus, I wouldn't have to hunt down blu-rays that are mastered in 4k and just pick up whatever UHD I see at the store that I like. Make sense to you?

I still need my question answered. Will 4k blu-rays throw off the black levels and colors if I had my kuro calibrated by D-nice a couple years ago? I need to know this firstly before I decide anything. Thank you very much!

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From what i understand ''mastered in 4K'' at its core is 1080p blu-ray stuff optimised, sony 4K algorithms, for UHD Sony TV playback.
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PathofNeo:

I posted comments on my 4K discs viewed on my PRO 111FD over in the SONY UDP X-800 thread under Blu ray players.........may answer some of your questions.

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I have Pioneer PRO-151FD, 60" TV purchased in 2009 still going pretty strong, does anyone know if the USB port on this set is powered? I want to connect Roku Express stick and provide power from the TV.
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I have Pioneer PRO-151FD, 60" TV purchased in 2009 still going pretty strong, does anyone know if the USB port on this set is powered? I want to connect Roku Express stick and provide power from the TV.
Just tried toggling through the inputs on my KRP-600M and I don't see one for usb. I don't think it will work. I could be wrong. A roku box with HDMI would work fine though.
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I have Pioneer PRO-151FD, 60" TV purchased in 2009 still going pretty strong, does anyone know if the USB port on this set is powered? I want to connect Roku Express stick and provide power from the TV.
It's not powered. I have a Roku stick on my 151fd and a Fire stick on my 111fd and both require the use of the included power adapter.

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I have Pioneer PRO-151FD, 60" TV purchased in 2009 still going pretty strong, does anyone know if the USB port on this set is powered? I want to connect Roku Express stick and provide power from the TV.
Works fine on my 151. But it does turn off usb power when the tv is in stand-by...
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