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asystole13 06-13-2008 10:16 PM

Pioneer 111FD and 151FD Owner's Manual

111FD Product Brochure

151FD Product Brochure

The Official Pioneer 9G Kuro Settings/Issues Thread

The Official 9G Pioneer General Discussion Thread


9G Elite Reviews

D-Nice's Review of the Pro-111FD

Sound and Vision's Review of the Pro-111FD

Ultimate AV's review of the Pro-111FD

CNet's review of the Pro-111FD


It seems I'm the first to get the PRO-151FD in this forum so I figured I'd start the Thread.

First impressions:

Can notice blacker blacks over 5010. It's hard to tell were the bezel ends with the black bars.

Initial start up is set to performance mode.

While in the menu. Very slight buzz when you put your head behind the set. Can't hear it in front at all. Haven't try TV or video yet but I will before I start break-in.

Update regarding buzz:
While running the break-in disc, I do hear a buzz which does change pitch from dark to light screens, light screens higher pitch, but I have to be 2 to 3 feet from the front to hear it and it's the same as my 5010. My DVR box is louder then the buzz.

Not the brightest backlite remote I've seen. It's a little hard to see if the room is very dark.

I like the menus better then the 5010. I didn't care for the windows xp-ish menus in the 5010.

It has a great tool menu that comes up from the bottom during viewing which you can change settings like picture mode and screen size. Here's the post of the picture. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...4&postcount=10




PRO-111FD/151FD Specs:

- High-Definition 1080p Resolution (1920 x 1080p)

- 50”/60" Diagonal Class / 16:9 Wide-Screen Aspect Ratio

- 1080 Progressive Image Reproduction with ability to accept 480i / 480p / 720p / 1080i / and TRUE 1080p 24fps signals

- New Deeper, Intense Blacks for Unmatched Contrast (5x Previous Generation)

- New Thinner Cosmetic Design with ››Elegant Acrylic Bezel

- New, Improved Optimum Mode. Automatically analyses and adjusts audio and video settings according to specific room light conditions and type of light and color. Program content is also monitored and finely adjusted so movies, sports and news are all faithfully reproduced. Includes OSD with status.

- New External Color Sensor

- Room Light Sensor for automatic picture adjustment adjustment

- PureCinema Smooth Film Motion mode to eliminate motion jutter in 3:2 Pulldown (60Hz) providing natural even playback of content created on film

- 4 Independent HDMI 1.3 inputs with HDMI-CEC control and the ability ››to accept 1080p 24/60Hz signal

- Standard 3:2 (60Hz) and Advanced PureCinema with 3:3 Pulldown (72Hz) for accurate playback of film content

- Fully integrated ATSC and NTSC Tuner with Clear QAM

- Home Media Gallery – offering a multimedia experience to enjoy movies, music and photos through an existing home network or USB memory device

- ISFccc Calibration Ready for professional customization of plasma picture according to personal preferences for contrast, tint, color as well as room conditions for both day and nighttime viewing. Includes:
- Independent Gamma Control (R / G / B) for heightened color ––calibration

- V-Chip Parental Control

- Remote Control – Illuminated / Preset Mode / Learning Mode

- New Advanced Redesigned GUI

- A/V Selection Memory – 10 options for viewing preferences: Optimum / Performance / Sports / Movie / PURE / Game / Standard*/ ISF-Day / ISF-Night / ISF-Auto (PC input: only Standard)

- Aspect Ratio Control – 9 positions: Auto* / Full / “Dot by Dot” / Zoom* / Cinema* / 4:3 / Wide* (only for SD) / Wide1* (only for HD) / Wide2* (only for HD) *Except PC signal

- Advanced Picture-in-Picture (4 positions), Picture-side-Picture for use with Home Media Gallery & Broadcast and Still Picture capability

- After-Image Reduction Function
- Orbiter (Off / Mode 1 / Mode 2)
- Auto Size (Off/ Natural / Wide-Zoom)
- Side Mask Detection (Mode 1 – for black side masks / Mode 2 – for black & illustrated side masks)
- Side Mask Brightness Sync (Fixed / Auto)
- Video Pattern (White Bar)
- Game Control Preference (AV Selection: only Game) (Off / On)

- Fine Tune Setting for ultimate picture control of color temperature, noise reduction and color management

- Intelligent Mode (Off / Mode 1 / Mode 2)

- Room Light Sensor & New External Color Sensor (Off / Mode 1 / Mode 2)

asystole13 06-13-2008 10:16 PM

Pics:














FocusedOne 06-13-2008 10:26 PM

This is the best pic I took tonight from my 151FD:


russwong 06-13-2008 10:26 PM

Congrats on the new set. Who said we'd see them in June? Who said east coast gets them first?

Anyways, more pics as always!

Russ

ROMAN O 06-13-2008 10:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by russwong View Post

Congrats on the new set. Who said we'd see them in June? Who said east coast gets them first?

Anyways, more pics as always!

Russ

Yes yes you are right I should move.

asystole13 06-13-2008 10:31 PM

Menu Pics:



Pure mode menus:
















fallenbuddha 06-13-2008 10:39 PM

And jealousy rears its ugly head.

Waboman 06-13-2008 10:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by russwong View Post

Congrats on the new set. Who said we'd see them in June? Who said east coast gets them first?

Anyways, more pics as always!

Russ


Lol, you rock Russ!

dssturbo1 06-13-2008 11:15 PM

congrats asystole 13 welcome to the Kuro Elite Club

so where did you get it from, a local dealer or a bb/mag?

man pioneer is speeding up the normal yearly product cycle. the first Pro150FD hit about 29th of August 2007, it's only ~9 1/2 months and the new models are out, wow.

asystole13 06-13-2008 11:16 PM

No one is more shocked then me that I 'm looking at it right now. I put in a dvd and turned all the fans and everything else that makes noise off. The buzz is the same as in the menus. Can only hear it when I put my head behind the set.

It has a cool popup tools menu while you are watching the tv which you can change the picture mode and the screen size.



I am going to start the break-in now.

Aetherhole 06-13-2008 11:19 PM

That's awesome, asystole! Only 4 more days for me...

What TV did you come from before the 151?

asystole13 06-13-2008 11:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by dssturbo1 View Post

congrats asystole 13 welcome to the Kuro Elite Club

so where did you get it from, a local dealer or a bb/mag?

man pioneer is speeding up the normal yearly product cycle. the first Pro150FD hit about 29th of August 2007, it's only ~9 1/2 months and the new models are out, wow.

Thanks dssturbo1,

I got it at bb/mag? I walked in wednesday night and the sales guy said they had over 100 in stock at the warehouse and that he could have it at the store on friday. I didn't really believe him but it turns out that he was correct. I called today at noon and they said they had it at the store. Picked it up at 8:00pm.

RobertR1 06-13-2008 11:22 PM

asy,

First of all, I hate you getting past that! How much of an improvement would say the blacks are over the 5010. Slight or quite noticeable to the point the whole pic looks a lot better?

How about the brightness compared to the 5010?

Congrats man!!!!!

Vashti 06-13-2008 11:23 PM

Come on you guys! It's been 8 minutes since the last picture!

asystole13 06-13-2008 11:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aetherhole View Post

That's awesome, asystole! Only 4 more days for me...

What TV did you come from before the 151?

Hi Aetherhole,

You are going to love it. I have a 5010 that a friend is going to buy from me in 6 days.

Aetherhole 06-13-2008 11:24 PM

SERIOUSLY! What Vashti said!

Aetherhole 06-13-2008 11:26 PM

asystole, thanks for the reassurance! My brother is buying my XBR5 this Monday, we're hauling that to his place and then Tuesday, I'll likely be picking up the 151 and having my brother help me to get it set into place.

I think you mentioned it in the other thread, but how easy was it to put the panel onto the stand??

dssturbo1 06-13-2008 11:28 PM

if it's anything like the 8G 60" models it's very easy with 2 people.

asystole13 06-13-2008 11:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertR1 View Post

asy,

First of all, I hate you getting past that! How much of an improvement would say the blacks are over the 5010. Slight or quite noticeable to the point the whole pic looks a lot better?

How about the brightness compared to the 5010?

Congrats man!!!!!

I've been playing with the setting in pure mode and the blacks are definitely blacker. I wouldn't say it's night and day but you can see the difference. I only have a dvd player hooked up to it right now because it just started the break-in. I put in saw 2 which is dark and man the blacks are unbelievable even on a dvd.

asystole13 06-13-2008 11:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aetherhole View Post

asystole, thanks for the reassurance! My brother is buying my XBR5 this Monday, we're hauling that to his place and then Tuesday, I'll likely be picking up the 151 and having my brother help me to get it set into place.

I think you mentioned it in the other thread, but how easy was it to put the panel onto the stand??

Very easy. Took me about 20 minutes to set everything up (stand and speakers). That is while I was taking pics for you guys.

asystole13 06-13-2008 11:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by dssturbo1 View Post

if it's anything like the 8G 60" models it's very easy with 2 people.


I would definitely have someone help you.

asystole13 06-13-2008 11:47 PM

Couple of more pictures from when I first set it up.




Thebarnman 06-14-2008 12:22 AM

I came home tonight and there were two calls waiting for me...both from Showcase. The message was that there was some very pressing information they wanted to talk to me about the 151FD. And that it was important that I contact them ASAP.

Unfortunately it's going to have to wait till I wake up on Saturday before I can call back. The pressing urgency almost makes it sound like if I don't call back right away, that the set that's being held for me will go to someone else. I'm sure it will still be waiting for me as the sales person said in the 2nd message that I could call back on Sat and Sun during normal business hours.

So I probably won't get delivery on Saturday as there's probably too little time to arrange that.

asystole13 06-14-2008 12:31 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thebarnman View Post

I came home tonight and there were two calls waiting for me...both from Showcase. The message was that there was some very pressing information they wanted to talk to me about the 151FD. And that it was important that I contact them ASAP.

Unfortunately it's going to have to wait till I wake up on Saturday before I can call back. The pressing urgency almost makes it sound like if I don't call back right away, that the set that's being held for me will go to someone else. I'm sure it will still be waiting for me as the sales person said in the 2nd message that I could call back on Sat and Sun during normal business hours.

So I probably won't get delivery on Saturday as there's probably too little time to arrange that.


You should have gave them your cell phone if you have one. Hope everything goes well for you.

akademiks 06-14-2008 12:44 AM

So the 151 has only one component input?

Nice pictures BTW!

HDPeeT 06-14-2008 12:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by akademiks View Post

So the 151 has only one component input?

Correct.

asystole13 06-14-2008 01:00 AM

I have the break-in disc running and I do have a buzz which does change pitch from dark to light screens but I have to be 2 to 3 feet from the front to hear it and it's the same as my 5010. My DVR box is louder then it .

Thebarnman 06-14-2008 02:32 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by asystole13 View Post

You should have gave them your cell phone if you have one. Hope everything goes well for you.


I think I'll be ok. With 30% down and at/near the top of their list, they should at least wait one day before it goes to someone else. If not, well I guess I wait another month.

Anyway, I will know more in about 7.5 hours after I wake up...that is, if they don't call me while I'm still sleeping!!!

If I can sleep!!

arunkandra 06-14-2008 05:15 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by asystole13 View Post

I have the break-in disc running and I do have a buzz which does change pitch from dark to light screens but I have to be 2 to 3 feet from the front to hear it and it's the same as my 5010. My DVR box is louder then it .

Hello

Congrats on your new TV. I am scheduled to get a new one by the end of next month once I move into a new place.

I am curious about the break-in DVD. Is it mandatory and pioneer recommended?

Also can you pls tell me where I can buy the break in dvd and instructions on how to use it?

Meridius 06-14-2008 05:55 AM

hi there

i have seen a real 8g tv and there seems to be alot of some sort of dancing fuzzyness to the picture and it seems to be only on the pioneers and not other tvs it looks like very faint interferance but i have seen many 8g and thay all have it i was woundering if the 9g has had this removed ?


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