I am now the proud owner of a Pioneer PRO-141FD Signature Elite
I cannot believe that the display I ended up with is what is considered by many to be the best display currently available.
Especially since I am coming from a 14 year old CRT that was on its last legs - towards the end, my wife and I would have to wait while it would blank on and off until it warmed up, lol.
Now that I am officially an owner, I am going to contribute to this thread by my relating my experiences in a post divided into topics. Hopefully it helps someone with getting their's or is at least interesting to read.Dealer Experience
I decided to go the route of saving a significant amount of money by going through a forum sponsor. Recently I have been ordering quite a bit of equipment online in order to build up my home theater (speakers, amp, subwoofers, etc.), but nothing of this magnitude. I'd overhear my wife chuckle and tell her sister, "Well, our 60" TV is coming in the mail!".
I have been lurking and posting here since when the 8G Kuros were coming out and have had a chance to get to know about the different sponsors. The forum sponsor I chose was Roman. The amount of input and time he gives this forum and its members, and his easy availability (every time I have called, he was the one who answered the phone, plus he returns my emails quickly) were certainly factors, but one of the biggest factors was his use of a specialty shipping company. His reports of not yet having a 9G Elite arrive damaged (*quickly knocks on wood so I don't jinx anything*), indicates to me the effectiveness of that.Delivery
I had tracking information given to me and could call both the sending station and the destination carrier and have someone immediately pick up to ask questions about my shipment tracking and status. The person at the destination location knew all about my shipment and set up the delivery window on the spot - it's nice to not have to wait on hold or be transferred around.
When the truck arrived, I went outside to meet the delivery guy. My box was up towards the front left wall. It was on its own pallet (like ProShooter's was) and was strapped to the sidewall. There were only a few other items in the truck. The delivery guy was very careful about gently sliding the display off of the pallet and setting each of its corners down, one at a time. Also, the truck had a powered lift gate, which meant that at no time did the box have to be let down more than a few inches at a time. He and I both carried it inside.
You might be thinking that because I was watching him, he was more careful. But I can tell you that is no guarantee. When I had subwoofers delivered, they came through DHL, and as I was standing there, the guy slid the subwoofer out to the edge and tilted it and let it slide and slam down (I made sure to step in to help with the second one). And he knew what they were as they said powered subwoofers on the outside and he even explained how he hated delivering them because they were so heavy and he had done a couple the day before.
With that experience, I knew that I would not want my display to be handled by anyone like that and so the shipping method became a top criteria.Inspection
I was torn with what I was going to do for my delivery inspection. I knew that was a crucial step and did not want to get it wrong. I kept wondering if I should do what ProShooter did and plug it in and get a signal to it. Plugging it in alone wouldn't tell me much, but my PS3 was set for my old SDTV and I didn't want take a lot of time trying to set up the PS3 for HDMI while the delivery guy was there and not know if there was a problem if it was with the PS3 setup or with the display. I could have hooked it up with composite just to have tried something, but ultimately I decided against anything but a visual inspection. Why? Well, I figured that if the box looked perfect and the display had no physical damage, then how could the shipping company become responsible if the display did not turn on or had something defective with the input I was trying to test with. In the end, those types of issues would be handled by Pioneer through Roman. So I lifted the box off and thoroughly looked it over (I shined a flashlight all along the glass to look for event the smallest crack like I had seen some others suggest). Everything was perfect and so I signed for it. You can see almost all of the display while it is sitting in its box, but since I could not see the bottom of the bezel, I wrote "Subject to Inspection" above my signature like some had suggested. The delivery guy didn't really pay attenting to me writing that and as I wrote it, I was not even sure how much protection that would actually give me, but I figured might as well.Setting Up
My baby was still in its cardboard cradle. Since the mount was coming separately and had not arrived, I had to decide where to put it. I had planned on taking it out and leaning it against a wall, like I had heard others do. But, although I hadn't heard of any reports of problems doing that, I didn't want to risk damaging the bezel as the glossy thin piece does extend a little past the edge. I would probably have had to lean it a decent amount to not have it rest on that thin acrylic lip.
So when I saw that I could see the entire screen while it was in the bottom box and that it would be able to be viewed without being leaned back, I decided to leave it in the box until I got my mount.
If you sit at a low enough angle, the lip of the box can hide a small portion of the bottom of the screen, but other than that it is fine until I get my mount. I bring this up as an option to anyone who is finding they are receiving their display before their stand or mount. To reach the infamous "chadmak09 power switch" (the one he took a pic of on the 151 on the bottom right as you face the back of the display), there is a hole in the styrofoam you can reach your hand into. And even though the IR sensor is behind styrofoam, you can get the remote to work by getting the remote really close to the set and aiming down in between the styrofoam and bezel. Since I just needed to get the settings set up to start running the breakin and that was what I was going to be leaving it running on, all of this worked out fine for me.Break-in DVD
Since there were some reports of mishaps with doing the breakin process because of power outages, I wanted to come up with a robust solution. I had tested this out on my SDTV prior to my display's shipment to make sure. Basically, I have a PS3 and the 141 plugged into a Belkin PureAV PF60 with the outlets set to "switched". The way the Belkin works is if there is a power outage, when the power comes back on, it keeps everything switched off until you explicitly have it switch them back on. So that means that the display will not get stuck with something unwanted on its screen because of a power outage.First Impressions
I did "cheat" for ten minutes and took it off the break-in settings and put in Planet Earth for a bit, and like everyone says, the images are just breathtaking. Since there are plenty of positive impressions to read, I won't add much more than that. I keep it in break-in mode now just to get it through that as quickly as possible. It's funny, my wife is more strict than me on keeping it in that mode (and she's gotten used to watching the color cycle and likes the effect it gives off in lighting the room, lol). I tell her that it is OK to mix some full screen content, but she wants to do it as correctly as possible and so that works out well as it makes it easier for me. Like I said, it'll just get it done that much faster and then hopefully the mount will have arrived near the end and we can experience it that much better right as it is mounted.Day 3 of the Break-in DVD
Day 3 - We are running low on food. More boxes arrive at the door, but when we open them they are only filled with cables. We will need to forage soon, but the eerie, hypnotic glow of the colors from the set have us transfixed. Only 3 more days left.Other Comments
Up until a while into running the break-in, I had forgotten about checking for some of the more commonly reported problems of the displays. Which is strange, because since I have read about them here I would have thought that I wouldn't have possibly forgotten. But I think it was because everything was going fine and I was concentrating on getting it set up and running the breakin. I remembered people talking about blotching with the signal off, but I could not see anything at all like that with or without a signal. I could not hear any buzzing, and I know that I shouldn't have (because it is not good to know about something you might never have found when watching normal content), but I checked for dead/stuck pixels during the break-in screens. Pixel Perfect
(I know ProShooter thought his might be in the first 40 if serial numbers are in order, well mine is in the low single digits - don't know if that means mine was that early or not, but at least so far it has come out great).
I am so glad that my display is free from any problems as I will be keeping this set for a looooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnng time
Here are some pics, taken with a cell phone so sorry they are really low quality (I had a digital camera and it broke and I haven't gotten around to getting another one - hey, this stuff is more important, right?
First, I can confirm that the PIP and Side by Side pics can be combos of any sources. I was cyclying through different inputs and the pic I have below happens to be Inputs 2 and 5.
So component is on the left (Sat DVR) and HDMI is on the right (PS3):
Lastly, I don't think anyone as shown pics of the network settings. Most are shown in the manual and I know some had played around with it (it's kind of neat using your laptop as a virtual remote control and watching inputs and settings change on the display).
I was actually able to get into the ISF portion - not sure if it is better to stick with using ControlCAL or not - turbe may be able to say more on that subject.
It's the best pic I could get with my camera phone - all of the inputs listed on the left, above the ISFccc logo.
The three columns are ISF Day, ISF Night and ISF Auto and it defaults to having 'No' for all of them until specific ones are activated. In the dropdown box on the top right under the input selection is where you select ISF day, night or auto. I haven't done much in this screen as there are no instructions for it and so I thought it best to leave it be for now.