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As people seem to benefit from seeing screen shots I thought I'd start a thread for those of us with these sets. Lets see your screenshots!

My first attempts, not the best, but...:












My second batch, making some progress. I've since changed from Warm to Normal color temp so these are a bit warm and consequently red, the actual picture is much more subtle. I should have worked on my white balance more when I processed these:






























And some SD material just to show off not only the 85u but the upconverting of the PS3. Again, the photography could be a bit better.










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Very nice screen shots. I just recently watch the Lord of the Rings series on my PS3, what an incredible job it does. What type of camera are you using on your screen shots?
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Great shots indeed! Do you also do any tweaking in Photoshop?
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Those shots look fantastic, which size of the PZ80/PZ85 do you have?

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Very nice screen shots. I just recently watch the Lord of the Rings series on my PS3, what an incredible job it does. What type of camera are you using on your screen shots?

Thank you. All shot with: Nikon D70s, 50mm 1.8.

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Great shots indeed! Do you also do any tweaking in Photoshop?

No PS tweaking. I should have done a more accurate white balance rendition, as I intimated, the white balance throws off the colors a bit. I'll do better on the next set.

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Those shots look fantastic, which size of the PZ80/PZ85 do you have?
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It's a 42" 85u.

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Thank you. All shot with: Nikon D70s, 50mm 1.8.



No PS tweaking. I should have done a more accurate white balance rendition, as I intimated, the white balance throws off the colors a bit. I'll do better on the next set.



It's a 42" 85u.

Warms me heart...

I have this very TV (same size as well) comming in 4 days!!!!

I am blown away by your screens. What are the settings for movies you have settled on and what kind of lighting is the room normally when you view?

I will be running all disk content through the Panny DP30 Blu plyr. The room is about 12 x 12 more or less.

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Warms me heart...
I have this very TV (same size as well) comming in 4 days!!!!
I am blown away by your screens. What are the settings for movies you have settled on and what kind of lighting is the room normally when you view?.....
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The viewing distance is 11' and the room conditions are dim. The photos were shot in complete darkness but I never watch that way, I use some bias lighting.

These settings are what I was running for those pics. I've since tweaked them a bit. The biggest change I've made though is going from Warm to Normal Temp. I think now that the set has a few hundred hours on it that the phosphors have warmed a bit and Warm is simply too warm now.

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Picture: 74 (now down to 67)
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Color: 41 (now 38)
Tint: -2
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The viewing distance is 11' and the room conditions are dim. The photos were shot in complete darkness but I never watch that way, I use some bias lighting.

These settings are what I was running for those pics. I've since tweaked them a bit. The biggest change I've made though is going from Warm to Normal Temp. I think now that the set has a few hundred hours on it that the phosphors have warmed a bit and Warm is simply too warm now.

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C.A.T.S.: OFF
Video NR: OFF
Black Level: Light

I am rolling with this settings ATM and I am impressed. Using warm though. For now.

Personal tweaks? Or a Calibration disk?

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I am rolling with this settings ATM and I am impressed. Using warm though. For now.

Personal tweaks? Or a Calibration disk?

C.

Anyone know if the blacks are a lot better than the PX80 blacks? I'm planning on returning my PX80 and I'm leaning towards the 50PZ80 HDTV. The difference in cash would be about 350 dollars. Anyone?
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Nice screenshots. I have the 42PZ80U... I'll post some when I'm done with the break-in period (currently about 50 hours of break-in DVD non-stop).
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I am rolling with this settings ATM and I am impressed. Using warm though. For now.
Personal tweaks? Or a Calibration disk?
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Not sure what you're asking but assuming: no I've not used any calibration disc.

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Anyone know if the blacks are a lot better than the PX80 blacks? I'm planning on returning my PX80 and I'm leaning towards the 50PZ80 HDTV. The difference in cash would be about 350 dollars. Anyone?

The PX is 15,000:1 and the PZ80 is 20,000:1. That said, I would expect a noticeable difference between the PX80 and the PZ85u which is 30,000:1. I mention it because there is relatively little difference in price between the 80u and 85u. Remember also that the PX series is 720p.

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Nice screenshots. I have the 42PZ80U... I'll post some when I'm done with the break-in period (currently about 50 hours of break-in DVD non-stop).

Thanks. Please do!

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Not sure what you're asking but assuming: no I've not used any calibration disc.



The PX is 15,000:1 and the PZ80 is 20,000:1. That said, I would expect a noticeable difference between the PX80 and the PZ85u which is 30,000:1. I mention it because there is relatively little difference in price between the 80u and 85u. Remember also that the PX series is 720p.



Thanks. Please do!

I've read that the blacks are the same regarding the PZ80 vs PZ85. The only difference is that the PZ85 has a VGA input. Not really worth the few extra hundred dollars if what I just stated is in fact true.
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I've read that the blacks are the same regarding the PZ80 vs PZ85. The only difference is that the PZ85 has a VGA input. Not really worth the few extra hundred dollars if what I just stated is in fact true.

Not sure where youre buying from but the price difference between the 80u & 85u has been typically less than $200 for months (often less than $100).

As for the blacks being the same, I'm not sure I can agree fully. I don't own both sets but have recently confirmed that the measured difference between the two is indeed 10,000:1. I'm sure that amounts to at least a small difference if not more.

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Not sure where youre buying from but the price difference between the 80u & 85u has been typically less than $200 for months (often less than $100).

As for the blacks being the same, I'm not sure I can agree fully. I don't own both sets but have recently confirmed that the measured difference between the two is indeed 10,000:1. I'm sure that amounts to at least a small difference if not more.

Considering that the black level difference is small, is it really worth the extra 200 bucks?
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Considering that the black level difference is small, is it really worth the extra 200 bucks?

I guess that's up to you. Again, I've not seen them next to each other. The consensus is that it's not major. On the other hand....well just look what I wrote here

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Appearance of crushing is the camera, not the tv.
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Not sure what you're asking but assuming: no I've not used any calibration disc.

When I said Personal Tweaks or Calibration disk I meant were you going just by eye and your personal visual preference through general use of the TV watching a movie here and there versus useing a consumer calibration DVD of some kind to get accuracy...

I find your other comment about the Warm color setting getting warmer with time. I am now about 40 hours into this TV and I do not know if it's in my head or if I am now seeing it too. I find myself on the fence about Normal versus Warm at this stage. Warm seemed perfect the first few days I had this unit. Both look great once you get used to them though. Going back and fourth while watching a movie to decide on the best one will drive you mad.

Is this common?

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Warm has been confirmed by TWO calibrators to be best on this tv.
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Ok, here begins my before and after pics:







Sky looks better in after, also appears i WAS crushing blacks.
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Def got more detail.
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More detail still, everything seems lighter and brighter. I like the sky improvements (blues)
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Blacks are better. He stated that the improvement in detail would help CR and in turn give a better 3d effect.
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Diff in skin tones
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BIG diff in color there
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Better color in rocks, more detail (look at the road!)
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