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First off, love the site, so much great info in here. I have this 46pz80u plasma and I absolutely love it. I have about 130 hrs on it and did all the break in stuf. I put in the plasma break in images on an SD card and wanted to run it for a few hours a day to help further break it in to 200 hrs. Well....of course I now notice a dead pixel, its a black square. I know its only noticeable at about 3-ft, but I'm aggravated. The tv is 3 weeks old and I still have the option to exchange it.

I'm just annoyed that there is already a dead pixel and worry that more will develop since something maybe be faulty. I know a few of you have had them, but should I just exchange it? I didn't think plasma were as prone to dead pixels as lcd's are.

What do you guys think?
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One dead pixel is not considered a defect by any manufacturer so you would not be able to return it for that reason.
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^^^^
Bummer but true for all but the kindest of B&M stores.
One dead/stuck pixel can distract and really ruin a brand new beautiful pdp.
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If it bothers the OP and it can be seen from viewing distance of 3ft it can be swapped out it looks like
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If it bothers the OP and it can be seen from viewing distance of 3ft it can be swapped out it looks like

Exactly...I purchased the set at Sears, their return policy is that if ur not satisfied with the product, return it for full refund or exchange within 30-days.

I'm just trying to justify taking it off the wall and doing this whole swap thing. Am I just being a little crazy? I just feel like there is a very small percentage of plasma owners that have dead pixels, or maybe noone looks for them...which I wish I hadn't.

My wife thinks I'm crazy and thinks the new tv will probably have dead pixels too. I sure as hell hope not.

I know its tiny, but its aggravating. Do a lot of people deal with it? I would deal with it if I couldn't exchange it.
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My point was that if you cant see it from your viewing distance dont worry about it but if you did see it and it bothers you and you have the option exchange it do it.
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If it bothers the OP and it can be seen from viewing distance of 3ft it can be swapped out it looks like

Is that a panasonic thing or just a sears thing?
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My point was that if you cant see it from your viewing distance dont worry about it but if you did see it and it bothers you and you have the option exchange it do it.

I know, I just feel like I have damaged goods. I mean if one is already out 3-weeks in, how will it be in 5 years?
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Is that a panasonic thing or just a sears thing?

its a Sears thing or some other B&M's
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Is that a panasonic thing or just a sears thing?

Thats sears return policy. I know panasonic doesn't consider it a defect unless there are 3 or more?
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Thats sears return policy. I know panasonic doesn't consider it a defect unless there are 3 or more?

More like 8 or so
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More like 8 or so

Thats just crazy. I mean I know the technology isn't 100%, but 3 weeks old?
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8.....it would look like a dog with rabies sneezed on the screen at that point, lol.
Is that just a guess or do they have no stated/printed staance on the number of faulty pixels?

Sears has usually been very good to their customers through the years for everything for the home.
Good american company.
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8.....it would look like a dog with rabies sneezed on the screen at that point, lol.
Is that just a guess or do they have no stated/printed staance on the number of faulty pixels?

Sears has usually been very good to their customers through the years.

LOL!! So if you were in my situation, I know its only one, but is it worth the hassle to exchange it? Are the odds high that the new screen would have a dead one as well this early in the game?
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A consideration when deciding to buy from a B&M or online. I wonder if online dealers will take back a set with 1 dead pixel?
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8.....it would look like a dog with rabies sneezed on the screen at that point, lol.
Is that just a guess or do they have no stated/printed staance on the number of faulty pixels?

Sears has usually been very good to their customers through the years for everything for the home.
Good american company.

I cant find the written policy but I know Pioneer is like 10 pixels or 30 cells lol but I have seen them be nicer it just depends and case by case
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A consideration when deciding to buy from a B&M or online. I wonder if online dealers will take back a set with 1 dead pixel?

good point, I doubt it considering the shipping charges etc.

Sorry for the noob question: what does b&m stand for? buying and merchandising?
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I cant find the written policy but I know Pioneer is like 10 pixels or 30 cells lol but I have seen them be nicer it just depends and case by case

Wow!
Luckily Tweeter and BB are more leniant.


jfon0604......Roman nailed it, if you can't see it from any of your normal seating positions keep it. If no others go bad before 30 days then you're good.
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A consideration when deciding to buy from a B&M or online. I wonder if online dealers will take back a set with 1 dead pixel?

Considering the odds of having a dead pixel is one in a million and putting that against saving a ton of money on certain units I dont think it matters. Plus yes it has happened
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good point, I doubt it considering the shipping charges etc.

Sorry for the noob question: what does b&m stand for? buying and merchandising?

Brick and Mortar store which by the way omelet I have both
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Considering the odds of having a dead pixel is one in a million and putting that against saving a ton of money on certain units I dont think it matters. Plus yes it has happened

True...I just have that luck I guess. I'm more worried that if one failed so soon, will my screen be more susceptible to have more failure down the road? I've read on here people having these for years and not one dead pixel.
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Brick and Mortar store which by the way omelet I have both

ahhh..gotcha. Thanks
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True...I just have that luck I guess. I'm more worried that if one failed so soon, will my screen be more susceptible to have more failure down the road? I've read on here people having these for years and not one dead pixel.

Yea I would not worry about that.
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Wow!
Luckily Tweeter and BB are more leniant.


jfon0604......Roman nailed it, if you can't see it from any of your normal seating positions keep it. If no others go bad before 30 days then you're good.

There is no more Tweeter
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I was scrolling through the solid colors this morning, when its on red, the pixel is white and when on green, the pixel is black. Does that means its a stuck pixel rather than a dead one?
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