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post #511 of 524 Old 12-13-2009, 04:42 PM
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Its been a while guys!

I am about to jump on a Elite Kuro PRO PRO-141FD!
Not too sure what the difference is about with the 151FD but there seems not to be much other than the missing spkrs and the stand!

Any input would be appreciated!

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The 141 also does not have a tuner.
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Hi, I've got a line on a used pdp5020fd. How does this model compare to the rest? Thanks in advance.
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Hi, I've got a line on a used pdp5020fd. How does this model compare to the rest? Thanks in advance.

Welcome to AVS.

The 5020 is in the xx20 column in the first post.
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The 141 also does not have a tuner.

I didnt know that!
Thanks for this info.

Since I will be using it with a cable box/Fios box no tuner is required.

I am guessing I have the correct answer!
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thanks for the info- would 1400 be a good price or should I splurge on a newer set? thanks.
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Any thoughts?

1) You keep going around and around on this. In multiple threads. This is the wrong one.
2) Pick a thread (but not this one) and stick to it. I'd suggest the 9G owners thread.
3) You can keep asking the same questions but the answers aren't going to change.
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After four years in the U.S. I am moving back to Europe, and want to take my KRP-600M overseas. Does anyone know if this model will work on 230V/50Hz?
On this forum, some report U.S. Kuros (other models than KRP-600M) work on 230V, a post on the 500/600M thread says it "will damage the Power Supply"
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On this forum, some report U.S. Kuros (other models than KRP-600M) work on 230V, a post on the 500/600M thread says it "will damage the Power Supply"

I'd suggest posting in that thread and quote the the specific post that says it will damage the PSU.
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based from the KRP500 manual, it says that the weight is 69lbs (31.4kg). is this accurate?

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Here is a comparison chart I have composed so far for all the info. available. Hope it helps.

The North American M-Series is NOT a direct import from Europe or any other part of the world. It is designated for the custom installer market in North America. Although the specification is very similar to the European M-Series, they have different firmware (i.e. No ISFccc mode - See Note in the 3rd section) in North America

  xx20 M (N. America) 111/151 101/141 A (Europe) LX-XX90
Physical            
Speakers Bottom* Optional Side None Optional Optional
Stand Raised Optional Normal Optional Optional Optional
Depth 3.75" 2.5" 3.75" 2.5" 2.5" 3.75
HDMI 4 2 4 4 4 3
DVI-D(HDCP) 0 1 0 1 0 0
D-SUB 15** 1 1 1 1 1 1
USB 1 0 1 0 1 1
Component 1 1 1 1 1 1
Composite 3 1 3 1 1 1
S-Video 1 0 1 0 0 0
Audio-In*** 5 2 5 0 2 3
Sensors 1 Light 1 Light 2 Color/Light 1 Light 2 Color/Light 1 Light
IR Repeater 0 1 1 1 0 0
Digital Audio Out 1 0 1 0 1 1
RS-232 1 1 1 1 2 1
LAN**** 1 (For HMG) 1 (For WCS) 1 (For HMG) 1 (For WCS) 1 (For HMG) 0
ANT Terminal 1 0 1 0 7***** 5******
AR Filter xx20 Specific Elite Specific+ Elite Specific Elite Specific Unknown Unknown
Media Receiver No No No No Separate No
  • *xx20 Speaker can be mounted on the top; Side mounting Elite speakers also work.
  • **The D-SUB 15 Connection seems to be able to configure for Component video.
  • ***Including both RCA and Headphone jacks
  • ****HMG=Home Media Gallary; WCS=Web Control System
  • *****Euro-SCART: 3; CI Slot: 2; Ant: 2;
  • ******Euro-SCART: 3; CI Slot: 1; Ant: 1;
  • + It is known that the M series share the same replacement PDP parts (AWU1378 for the 500M & 101; AWU1347 for the 600M, 151 & 141) and service manual with the Signature series. However, the glass is not hand picked like the Elites.
  • The Pro-111fd speaker brackets will need some modification to fit on the KRP-500M. The Pro-151fd speaker brackets fit on the KRP-600M with NO modification needed.
  • The Pro-151fd stand can be used on Pro-141fd and KRP-600m. Parts Number: AXY1212 - STAND ACCESSORY ASSY (Nuts & Screws); AXY1221 - BASE COVER ASS'Y; AXY1222 - STAND PIPE L ASS'Y (Need to order 2). You can order them directly from Pioneer Parts: http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/...lNum=PRO-151FD.

  xx20 M (N. America) 111/151 101/141 A (Europe) LX-XX90
Picture Control            
Optimum Yes (Light) Yes (Light) Yes (L & C) Yes (Light) Yes (L & C) Yes (Light)
Performance* Performance Standard Performance Standard Standard Standard
Dynamic Yes Yes No Yes Yes Yes
Movie Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Pure No Yes Yes Yes Yes No
Sport Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Game Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Standard** Standard User Standard User User User
Contrast Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Brightness Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Color Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Tint Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sharpness Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Color Temp Fixed Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Gamma Fixed Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
  • Optimum: automatically adjusts the image quality for the brightness level of the viewing area
  • *Performance: for a highly defined image in a normally bright room (called "Standard" in M, 101/141 and A)
  • Dynamic: for a very sharp image with maximum contrast but manual image quality adjustment unavailable
  • Movies: for movies
  • Pure: reflects input signals as faithfully as possible for checking image materials, for example
  • Sport: for sports programs
  • Game: lowers image brightness for easier viewing
  • **Standard: allows customizing settings as desired (called "User" in M, 101/141 and A)

  -- xx20 -- M (N. America) 111/151 101/141 A (Europe) LX-XX90
Pro-Adjust Control            
Intelligent Mode No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
DRE Picture Fixed Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Black Level Fixed Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Automatic Contrast Limiter Fixed Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Enhancer Mode Fixed Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Color Transient Improvement Fixed Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Color Space (Mode 1 & 2) Fixed Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
3DYC Fixed Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
I-P Mode No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Drive Mode No Yes No Yes Yes Yes
Game Control Pref. Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Blue Only Mode No Yes No Yes No No
ISFccc (Day, Night, Auto) No No# D, N & A D, N & A D, N & A D,N; "H": D,N,A
  • 3DYC: optimizes characteristics for separating brightness signals from color signals (Off, High, Mid, Low)
  • I-P Mode: provides optimum conversion from interlace signals to progressive signals (1=Optimizes video images; 2=Standard setting; 3=Optimizes still images)
  • Drive Mode: switches image display frequency (1=Standard settings; 2=Enhances readability for horizontally scrolling text; 3=Optimizes movie content)
  • Game Control Pref.: establishes a gaming preference for image quality or operability (Off=Image quality preferred; On=Operability preferred)
  • Blue Only Mode: displays images in blue only (Off, On)
  • # By Using a Custom Profile (NOT Supported by Pioneer) developed by ControlCal, North America M-series can have ISFccc Auto, Day, Night enabled. ControlCal will also provide a rollback profile in order for owners to avoid any potential warranty dispute with Pioneer. For details, contact ControlCal at www.controlcal.com.

  xx20 M (N. America) 111/151 101/141 A (Europe) LX-XX90
Other Spec.            
Factory Break-in Unknown 50 Hours 50 Hours 100 Hours Unknown Unknown
Power Consumption* 436W/524W 396W/492W 436W/524W 384W/481W 440W/530W** 420W/510W
Weight*** 74.1/112.0 lbs 69.2/110 lbs 74.5/112.4 lbs 69.2/110 lbs 69.2/110 lbs 73.9/112 lbs
Speakers 18W+18W(6Ω) 6Ω-16Ω/9W+9W@6Ω 18W+18W(6Ω) N/A 18W+18W(6Ω) 18W+18W(6Ω)
Warranty 1 1 2 2 1 1
Note: First number is for the 50"; Second is for the 60".
  • *All models standby consume less than 0.3W (N. America)/0.4W (Europe).
  • **Combined both the panel and media receiver (52W).
  • ***Weight are without stand, speakers and/or media receiver.

From what I read from the manual, it says that the KRP500 is 69.2 lbs (31.4kg). is the weight stated in the manual accurate?

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based from the KRP500 manual, it says that the weight is 69lbs (31.4kg). is this accurate?

Yes, this is correct. Two people can easily carry it.
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I was hoping if someone could help me understand how firmwares would be installed (if any have been available for the 9G Kuro post launch) without the aid of USB slot in the Pro 141/111 models? Do they have any sort of storage card reader integrated?

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