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post #181 of 7895 Old 03-13-2009, 08:34 AM
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Bought a TC-P50S1 and it will be here on Wednesday and it gets installed on the wall on Thursday. I did not need all the extra stuff the G offers. I'm just looking for PQ at a good price. I will have it ISF calibrated for better PQ. Do I need to wait before getting it calibrated?

Those in the know, such as D-Nice, say that the set has to be broken in for about 150 hrs before having it calibrated. They say that the RGB phosphors have to be seasoned, and they will change during the break in period, so you should go on the break in thread, and seek more details on how to go about it. Good luck with your new TV.


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If the g10 is anything like the pz800 then I think for an extra $200 it's totally worth it. Plus you get 24p cinematic mode.

this only useful for dvds only right?
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No it plays blu rays at the 24 fps that they are recorded at. It doesn;t have to do that 2:3 pulldown crap so it eleminates telecine judder. However, it plays 2 frames per second so the tv outputs at 48hz (same as a theatre apparently?) but you can notice the flicker. I can notice my computer screen flicker at anything under 70hz... so I wonder if this would bother me.
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ok good to know but what I meant is that if somone like myself who use it just for directv viewinfg then the 24p will not be needed hence the S1 will suffice.
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yeah for hdtv I bet the x1 would suffice. If you're sitting any further than 8 feet away I'd get the x1 since you don't need the higher resolution at all.
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Someone mentioned something about input lag in the g10 thread.* Just to clear my doubts: Don't plasma's have extremely fast response times?* If I played videogames would I notice lag with this TV?
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For those debating the S and G series, would the custom on both permit the same picture? Or would you need to get into the service menu of the S to get it as good as the custom setting option in the G?

Just curious as I'm on the fence with these two. It may be too early to get a definitive answer on this.

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yeah for hdtv I bet the x1 would suffice. If you're sitting any further than 8 feet away I'd get the x1 since you don't need the higher resolution at all.

Yes, but the S1 and G series offer much better picture quality even beyond the higher resolution.
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For those debating the S and G series, would the custom on both permit the same picture? Or would you need to get into the service menu of the S to get it as good as the custom setting option in the G?

Just curious as I'm on the fence with these two. It may be too early to get a definitive answer on this.

It appears, based on the owners manuals, that the custom mode option on both models is exactly the same, so anything that you could adjust on the G10 settings, you should be able to do in the very same manner on the S1 settings, in the very same way.
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why did this thread die?? anybody get one home yet??
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Trying to get one home! I've been without a decent HD set ever since my 34" Sony CRT decided to crap out right before the Oscars.

The 42S1 has been on order with a local appliance shop for over a week now. Impatiently waiting. I know they are in stock at the local SEARS but the savings going with the other shop (and general good feeling of supporting local business) seemed worth the wait...
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why did this thread die?? anybody get one home yet??

I have a TC-P50S1 being delivered on Wednesday and installed on the wall on Thursday. It took over a week and a half to get it.
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well, i bought the 50S1 at BB today! unfortunately, they had none in stock, so it will be here wed. seems like were all paying the waiting game lol
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I ordered one last week Wednesday and it's getting delivered tomorrow. I'm not a huge video buff so I'm sure I'll be easily impressed, so I'm not sure how much help I can be.

Anyone know if there will be input lag with the set concerning videogames?
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Bad news on the TC-P50s1 that i was supposed to receive last week. I went to the freight terminal to pick up my TV and upon inspection found that the entire glass was shattered. These things do happen especially when you find indentations on the box(tow motor?). Anyways, I will be receiving credit and bought a samsung 720p plasma at a local retailer. Saved half my money and since the closest seating is 9 foot away 1080p wouldn't make any difference. One thing is thing that is an Absolute "Always inspect your plasma when taking delivery....either from shipping or from the store"!!
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bought a samsung 720p plasma at a local retailer. Saved half my money and since the closest seating is 9 foot away 1080p wouldn't make any difference.


Can someone clear this up for me?

I just measured again and I will sit 9ft or 10ft away from the screen. My plan is to buy the 54V10. The difference in the cost is not that important to me but the quality of the picture is extremely important.

My question is, at a distance of 10ft should I just get the 720/768 or should I still get the 54V10 as planned?

Please remember picture and not price is the important thing here, for me.

Any and all reply's will be appreciated.

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Can someone clear this up for me?

I just measured again and I will sit 9ft or 10ft away from the screen. My plan is to buy the 54V10. The difference in the cost is not that important to me but the quality of the picture is extremely important.

My question is, at a distance of 10ft should I just get the 720/768 or should I still get the 54V10 as planned?

Please remember picture and not price is the important thing here, for me.

Any and all reply's will be appreciated.

Jim

I agree and I believe the 50V might be worth the wait, however, their should be similarities to the 50G. Although the Digital Cinema Color could make a difference in picture adjustment over the 50G.

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Can someone clear this up for me? I just measured again and I will sit 9ft or 10ft away from the screen. My plan is to buy the 54V10. The difference in the cost is not that important to me but the quality of the picture is extremely important. My question is, at a distance of 10ft should I just get the 720/768 or should I still get the 54V10 as planned? Please remember picture and not price is the important thing here, for me.

I'd stick with the 54V10 for sure. Even aside from the viewing distance, i'm sure the picture quality on the V10 will be overall better than the smaller 50" entry level X1.

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Can someone clear this up for me?

I just measured again and I will sit 9ft or 10ft away from the screen. My plan is to buy the 54V10. The difference in the cost is not that important to me but the quality of the picture is extremely important.

My question is, at a distance of 10ft should I just get the 720/768 or should I still get the 54V10 as planned?

Please remember picture and not price is the important thing here, for me.

Any and all reply's will be appreciated.

Jim

you should maybe consider the 50 inch version as that's more then enough tv for that viewing distance. I have a 50 from 8-9 feet and it sometimes feels a bit too big even. But at the end of the day its personal preference but distance is the one thing you should be able to test at a store.
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Chris and Randy,

Thanks for the feed back on that question. It is reassuring to hear that from both of you. So I will wait for the 54V10.

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I think I need the 54 inch to appreciate the 1080P. If need be, I can always move the seating back away from the screen.

Now if I can only talk D-Nice into coming to Boston to calibrate it for me I will be in heaven. May as well go with the best!

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Now if I can only talk D-Nice into coming to Boston to calibrate it for me I will be in heaven. May as well go with the best!

Ditto.

When I get my new TV, I would want him to calibrate it.
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I've had my TC-P42S1 since last Friday. I'm going through the break-in period and have let it run continuously since I brought it home. TV doesn't feel warm, either. I will not be messing with the 'service' settings, though.

Anyway, even though it isn't calibrated it is very impressive thus far. I have no idea why anyone would rather have an LCD than a plasma. I do have a calibration DVD to use so I'm looking forward to that.

I should be viewing a Blu-Ray film on it by next week. So I'll have more to say then. I bought a Sony BDP-S350 just over a month ago but my old set was not a Full HD just an HD. (Samsung 32" CRT). I only own one Blu-Ray film, Pan's Labyrinth, so that's what is likely to be the first one I watch on my new Panasonic plasma TV. I bought the film just under a week ago, though I do already own the DVD and love the movie. Got it for a great price and needed something to test my set with.
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I only own one Blu-Ray film, Pan's Labyrinth.

Yo man, check out amazon! You can get some really good movies used for outstanding prices! Ive bought several for under 6 bux! Just go to the blu ray home page, select the "All Blu ray" option on the left, and sort from price lowest to highest. theres some really great stuff on there! thanks to amazon, my collection just hit the 100 mark
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Yo man, check out amazon! You can get some really good movies used for outstanding prices! Ive bought several for under 6 bux! Just go to the blu ray home page, select the "All Blu ray" option on the left, and sort from price lowest to highest. theres some really great stuff on there! thanks to amazon, my collection just hit the 100 mark

I know this is OS but here goes anyway. They also have a BIG sale going on that started last week. Many titles for under $10.
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Does anybody know what "24p Playback(2:3)" is? I was on Panasonic's website and was checking out the specs for the S1 and noticed that for this spec, it was listed as having it. The spec above this is titled "24p Cinematic Playback" and is listed as No. The G10 is listed as having "24p Cinematic Playback", but im confused as to the difference?? Does the S1 indeed have some sort of 24p playback??
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Hi Everyone,
Need help. Pany 50x1 plus bluray cheaper that 50s1 to buy. 720p at 7-9 feet viewing or 1080p. We had 55 inch hd rptv that has died. Directv hd and OTA hd. Would buy bluray for 50x1, benefits pros or cons with 720p or do we buy upconvert dvd player with 720p. $600+ more for 1080p seems high when we could buy both for less than cost of 50ps1. Viewing distance and SDE on 720p, 20/20 and wearer of glasses.
comments, advice, go 720p + Bluray save money, then upgrade later to 1080p and larger screen?
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I have been reading these forums for several years now. I got the settings here for my PT50-LC13 LCD projection a few years ago. That set looks like an antique now.

Anyway for the past few years I have been wanting a Panasonic plasma. Well, I finally broke down and bought a TC-P42S1 this weekend. I don't usually buy something so new, but I felt like I needed to do my part in stimulating the economy. I always like to read the impressions of posters here on the new tv's, so I thought I would return the favor and leave mine, non-technical though they may be.

The picture looks great right out of the box. My eyes told me to go with Cinema and Standard color (I hear some of you muttering 'warm'). The blacks look great and I am impressed with the details that are visible even in the darker scenes of a movie. That's a big improvement from my lcd projection. I have also been pleased with the absence of glare on the screen. The set is placed in a bright living area and while there is some reflection from the shiny black bezel, there is little or none from the screen itself. I find the design of the set to be understated and classic. The thing even looks good when it's turned off.

Again I very much like the picture, although I must confess that to me it somewhat favors the color green. Not enough that it bothers me, but on some scenes I notice it. I'm sure in time I will find the information here on how to tweak the settings to improve it. I changed the color setting to 'warm' and was surprised to find that it made the picture look greener to my eyes. Let me be clear that I'm nitpicking the color here. Please don't think everyone looks like the Joker or anything. I think 99% of people wouldn't even notice it.

Other impressions:

-- I like to put in an SD card and look at photos. Even on the 'very fast' setting they scroll very very slowly though. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? If it's always going to be this slow though I'll just use my computer slide show instead.

-- The screen itself puts off some heat. No big deal, but I was initially surprised by it.

-- The remote layout could be better, but I don't get too hung up on remotes. I've used far worse remotes successfully.

-- I think the sound is great for on-board tv sound. I like the hidden speaker design.

-- I don't have a BDP yet (no money left) so I can't comment on that.

-- Directv HD looks fantastic.

Overall I am very pleased with this display so far. If anyone is here just shopping for a set, I can't imagine you will be displeased by this one. I really had to move in close and tilt my head and squint to find any faults to write about. Mostly my family and I just watch it and occasionally smile about how stunning the picture looks.
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Yo man, check out amazon! You can get some really good movies used for outstanding prices! Ive bought several for under 6 bux! Just go to the blu ray home page, select the "All Blu ray" option on the left, and sort from price lowest to highest. theres some really great stuff on there! thanks to amazon, my collection just hit the 100 mark

Thanks. Yeah, I've checked out Amazon lately, but most of the movies I want I already own on DVD and Pan's Labyrinth was on sale and I wanted to know that I had a Blu-Ray movie handy when I get a chance to try one out.

I won't be replacing 99% of my movies with Blu-Ray versions simply because it wouldn't be feasible. Even if they were $6 a peice. I didn't even buy Let The Right One In on the new format since I didn't want to spend $30 for it even though I love the film. I'll probably save Blu-Ray purchases for those big films that I enjoy such as Quantum Of Solace though I'll probably hold off buying other films until they are on sale.

As for my new plasma, I'm getting closer to the end of its break-in period so I'll aim for a Thursday Blu-Ray test. Not sure if I'll take pictures of it yet as those are hard to get right. We do have very good cameras at my house (several Canon dSLR models) if I decide to try my hand at it.
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I too purchased a TC-P42S1 (couldn't pass up the $1199 price). I previously owned the 42PZ700u before it got the 7 blinking lights problem.

Here are my initial thoughts out of the box. Keep in mind I'm still breaking the TV in and have yet to calibrate it.

The black levels and contrast are much improved. The dirty whites are less of an issue. Shadow detail looks good and absolute "blackness" is near perfectly black.

The set is much lighter than it's previous brethren. I can actually pick this guy up and move it around with relative ease. The rounded edges are a nice touch too. The stand is somewhat cheesy from the backside since you can see the pillars and screws, but from the front it looks pretty good. My only peeve right now is I'm getting a weird reflection of the back of the stand on the front of the stand with my backlighting setup.

Overall very similar picture quality to what I was used to with some noticeable improvements to black levels and contrast.

My big issue right now is the color accuracy. This set is titled way too green. I'm hoping basic tint/color tweaks can get it in line, but I wouldn't be surprised if the set still needs service menu level tweaks to get the color accuracy in order.

All in all you really can't ask more from a television for $1199. It's incredible how cheap these things are getting these days.
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Can you please post some pics? thanks!! i have settled on the 42S1 and altho i have seen it at BB i didn't have enough time to examine it as i had to go have oral surgery lol.


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I too purchased a TC-P42S1 (couldn't pass up the $1199 price). I previously owned the 42PZ700u before it got the 7 blinking lights problem.

Here are my initial thoughts out of the box. Keep in mind I'm still breaking the TV in and have yet to calibrate it.

The black levels and contrast are much improved. The dirty whites are less of an issue. Shadow detail looks good and absolute "blackness" is near perfectly black.

The set is much lighter than it's previous brethren. I can actually pick this guy up and move it around with relative ease. The rounded edges are a nice touch too. The stand is somewhat cheesy from the backside since you can see the pillars and screws, but from the front it looks pretty good. My only peeve right now is I'm getting a weird reflection of the back of the stand on the front of the stand with my backlighting setup.

Overall very similar picture quality to what I was used to with some noticeable improvements to black levels and contrast.

My big issue right now is the color accuracy. This set is titled way too green. I'm hoping basic tint/color tweaks can get it in line, but I wouldn't be surprised if the set still needs service menu level tweaks to get the color accuracy in order.

All in all you really can't ask more from a television for $1199. It's incredible how cheap these things are getting these days.

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